Speaker Johnson Announces Major New Election Integrity Legislation Following Trump Meeting

Valletta said:

There was a bill that did the OPPOSITE of the bi-partisan Jimmy Carter commission recommendation and promoted mail-in ballots, and I don't recall voter ID either.

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That's nice; it doesn't change the hypocrisy over "state's rights."

Fantine said:

In addition, Speaker Johnson, who was part of the election deniers/election overturning cabal in the Republican Party, lacks "election integrity" himself. Every phony charge they put forward was found to be groundless. No legislator who still claims the 2020 election was invalid has enough "integrity" to pass election laws. Their motivations and honesty are highly suspect.

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There is mounds of video evidence of Democrats denying the validity of past elections. This election denier label concocted by the left for propaganda purposes is absurd. It is nothing more than a leftist tactic to shut down debate and obscure facts. Reminiscent of calling people racist and vaccine deniers and homophobs. It is just a lot of noise for diversion.

Fantine said:

Their motivations and honesty are highly suspect.

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I wound say anyone who is against keeping elections free from illegal voters is highly suspect. I have to show my license to do banking transactions, buy sudafed, and in my state yes to vote and I have no problem doing so. You have prove who you are in most states to be licensed to carry a firearm, drive a car, be hired for many jobs , fly a plane, join the military and the list goes on. Only those who have a problem with only legal voters participating are against common sense legislation.

GoldenBoy89 said:

Any evidence that they’re voting?

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If dead people can and have voted why is it a stretch to think some illegals have voted. Some liberals are openly suggesting non-citizens should be allowed to vote.

Valletta said:

“Every single person who registers to vote in a Federal election must prove they’re an American citizen first” under the bill, Johnson told reporters. “Our bill would put us on par with virtually every other democracy around the world that also prohibits non-citizen voting.”

House Speaker Mike Johnson Drops Bombshell 2024 Announcement Moments After Meeting With Former President Donald Trump

This is awesome.

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This is one bill

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With all the protocols in place from states, it would be redundant. Now whether California actually checks, is another story.
First page on California registration website.

Postvieww said:

If dead people can and have voted why is it a stretch to think some illegals have voted. Some liberals are openly suggesting non-citizens should be allowed to vote.

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So how prevalent of a problem is this illegal voting issue? Do you guys have any real numbers on this issue or is it just vibes and feelings you’re going off of?

You related it to dead voters. How big of a problem are they? I’d like it if one of you can actually show this is an actual, real problem with our elections that needs to be addressed legislatively and not something the right is just making up and pushing for political purposes like Trump’s unproven claims about the last election.

SimplyMe said:

I recall Democrats in 2021 trying to pass voting bills, that would have included provisions to ensure fair elections, yet Republicans (and some of the members of this forum in support of this Bille) decried the Democrat sponsored bills as violating "States Rights," by trying to dictate security measures in federal elections. Odd how these same people have changed their tune when it is a Republican sponsored bill -- they have no issue with federal voting statutes that would overrule state election laws for federal elections.

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There are very good (R)easons for this.

Maria Billingsley said:

With all the protocols in place from states, it would be redundant. Now whether California actually checks, is another story.
First page on California registration website.

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New Jersey's registration website is similar. To register to vote, one has to affirm that one is a citizen, but I don't recall actually having to produce a birth certificate when I registered. I think the state relies on the threat of prison time to keep people honest.

If I have to prove my citizenship in order to keep voting, presumably that means that I now have to show my birth certificate or passport to a government official.

I would think that the efforts of Johnson et al to fined a few "needles" in haystacks of validly cast votes in every single swing state would have shown them that the only people who wanted to disrupt and overturn "election integrity" were Johnson et al. They were the ones who wanted to seat "alternate" electors who did not represent the majority of state voters. They were the ones who wanted Pence to refuse to certify the valid election. They were the ones (some of them) who encouraged and condoned the insurrection.

As I said, you can't trust a bunch of crooks to pass an integrity law.

Maria Billingsley said:

With all the protocols in place from states, it would be redundant. Now whether California actually checks, is another story.
First page on California registration website.
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Most (all?) states, including CA, require some form of legal identification like a drivers license which, itself, requires information regarding citizenship (i.e. SSN).

Valletta said:

There was a bill that did the OPPOSITE of the bi-partisan Jimmy Carter commission recommendation and promoted mail-in ballots, and I don't recall voter ID either.

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In the 25 years since that commission, have they not figured out a way to make mail-in voting secure? Trump always votes by mail - no standing for an hour in line for him!

I would LOVE to see some examples where election integrity was a significant problem that impacts elections.


Republicans pass a "no chemtrails" act; why NOT see the sense of solving a problem that has not been established as a problem.

I don't have a problem with requiring ID for registration. (I'd have a problem with requiring ID for voting, though.) On the other hand, this should be left to the states. It's up to the states to decide whether to have public voting in the first place, after all.

Valletta said:

Increasing swiftly because of the influx of non-citizens.

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...so you keep saying.

There is no evidence.

Valletta said:

What is wrong with the conservative proposals of voter ID, paper ballots, and a national holiday so that every eligible citizen could vote?

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Hey, this may be the first time we've agreed on CF!

National holiday - yes! (It's already a state holiday here in New Jersey.)

Paper ballots - yes, we need a paper record of votes cast.

Voter ID I'm cautious about, because I'm worried about voter suppression, but I'm okay with it if every voter is issued a government ID at no cost (in time or money) to themselves, and if there's a way to cast a provisional ballot in cases where the election worker thinks the voter doesn't match their ID on Election Day.

Edit: Hmm, I forgot that the voter ID concept could be used to end mail-in voting. Well, we agree on 2 out of 3.

Fantine said:

Most voters have voted previously and have been registered for years. What do they plan to do? Make everyone re-register with their birth certificates or naturalization papers?

That would put an undue burden on states if they wanted it completed before the November election.

They are grasping at straws, looking for some bizarre reason to invalidate the election and create havoc and mob violence like he did in 2020.

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Of course not. That would result in lots of voters over 60 being dropped from the voter lists.

They will of course make it very difficult for young voters to register.

iluvatar5150 said:

Most (all?) states, including CA, require some form of legal identification like a drivers license which, itself, requires information regarding citizenship (i.e. SSN).

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One DOES NOT need to be a citizen to get a social security number.

One pretty much does need a social security number to file their income tax forms.

That brings back memories of High School history class. Something about no taxation without representation. Guess that idea from The Revolution is toast.