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You can not even believe a simple straight forward verse in Genesis 1 about the moon being a created light.
Don't tell me what I believe.
You don't care - you don't even know.
You are just looking for another post so you can say see the earth is not flat because it does not say the earth is flat so on and so on.
No, if you reckon that Genesis teaches the earth is flat, you need to provide the verse. Otherwise, stop all this nonsense about my not believing Genesis.
Just like you (about God's creation accounts in The Bible) they had already made up their mind and no amount of Biblical proof will persuade you.
Don't make a judgement about what I believe. You clearly don't know, and have said that you don't care.

At least your fellow flat earther, @Apple Sky, has the courtesy to "like" my posts if I say something that she agrees with.
You say you don't care, even though I have told you that I believe Genesis 1.
 
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Believe what you want, just the way you do about The Bibles creation accounts.
Well then stop telling me what I should believe.
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Well you science people do need all the help you can get to keep science deception going in this age. Enjoy it while the time last, because once it is over it is over forever.
This is hilarious. When I finally go to be with the Lord, it will be for eternity. The shape of the earth will not affect that. Are you suggesting that God will punish those who believed the earth to be a globe? Even when it is a globe?
 
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This is hilarious. When I finally go to be with the Lord, it will be for eternity. The shape of the earth will not affect that. Are you suggesting that God will punish those who believed the earth to be a globe? Even when it is a globe?

You never know.
 
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Numbers Chapters 13 and 14, God does not like to be, not believed, by believers.
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:1 KJV

I believe the Lord, not @d taylor
 
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Numbers Chapters 13 and 14, God does not like to be, not believed, by believers.
Again, flat earthism is not of God. You are confusing Christianity with some weird version of a bronze-age Hebrew cultural concepts.

Gospel is not "believe in the flat earth [or young earth etc.] and you will be saved". Read the New Testament. You are babbling a lot of nonsense, in this thread.
 
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Ah but I do know. Eternity with the Lord is eternity with the Lord. Nothing else will matter.
Actually it DOES matter. Yes, you might end up in Heaven. But what job and level will you be in Heaven? God will reward and give greater responsibilities to those that are/were more in tune to His work and plan and the secrets that He specifically hid for us to spend the effort to figure out and find.
 
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Actually it DOES matter. Yes, you might end up in Heaven. But what job and level will you be in Heaven? God will reward and give greater responsibilities to those that are/were more in tune to His work and plan and the secrets that He specifically hid for us to spend the effort to figure out and find.
Actually, there will be no jealousy in heaven. And if you think believing that the earth is a globe is going to affect that when nothing in God’s word says otherwise you need to come up with some evidence.
 
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King James Bible
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

What are these invisible things ? Is it;

1. The Aether
2. The Demons
3. The Angels
4. The Firmament
5. The Heavens
6. The Air
7. DNA
8. Our Senses
9. The Foundations Of The Earth

I reckon it is the Aether

(PDF) Dynamic Theory of the Aether [DRAFT] - Unifying

The invisible things of Him- an invisible God/Creator.

The creation of the world is clearly seen (the biblical text will indicate if seen can also refer to any of our other senses)

My discredit and commentaries of the list.

1. the Aether is detected by technologies using our senses.
2. the demons are detected by our other senses (how they influence people, like the boy who had a legion of them)
3. the angels are detected by divine grant to discern them apart from our senses, or by our senses.. there is a Bible verse of someone being touched by an angel. And Jacob wrestled with one. Daniel and Mary saw and exchanged a conversation with one.
4. the firmament once was but is no more since Noah's flood. While it was existing there was no rainfall or storms. The firmament around the spherical earth functioned in much the same way as a terrarium. Since the firmament was emptied of it's water God never created another so it's gone now. Just a thin vapor ozone layer is all that remains.. and there is clouds, rainfall and storms.. and a rainbow seen in the sky.
5. Which of the heavens is being spoken of? At any rate we can't see any heavens, only what is in them. The first heavens- clouds, rain, storms, birds, airplanes. The second heavens- the sun, the moon, the stars, the solar planets, the galaxies, comets, asteroids. The third heavens no one can see- where God, saints reside.
6. see #5.
7. DNA. Not invisible just very very very very very small.
8. Our senses. None of them are invisible.
9. The foundations of the earth is a metaphor referring to the creation which God made by invisible things. Referring to foundations as if they were literal sense detectable objects would make them not invisible.
The quote of the heavens that show God's handiwork refers to the sun, moon and stars beyond our atmosphere. The quote that uses the word firmament refers to the thin vapor ozone layer. But the flat earther interprets firmament only according to it's physical status before Noah's flood. That's like a person that got saved but only referring to themselves as a sinner. Not acknowledging any changes that took place.

God created by invisible things.. In both Hebrew (dabar) and Greek (logos) the word translated things is also translatable to words. Words can't be seen when spoken, but they can be heard. Seeing is not believing. Faith comes by hearing. Or not. The reasoning and/or emotions either denying or agreeing with the senses.
 
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Actually, there will be no jealousy in heaven. And if you think believing that the earth is a globe is going to affect that when nothing in God’s word says otherwise you need to come up with some evidence.
Yes, typical of the mockers. No one said anything about jealousy. You'll be the janitor but you'll accept that position for all eternity.

[Pro 25:2 LSB] 2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
 
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Yes, typical of the mockers. No one said anything about jealousy. You'll be the janitor but you'll accept that position for all eternity.

[Pro 25:2 LSB] 2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
I don’t see the apostles worrying about the shape of the earth. They are far more concerned with the Gospel of Christ than anything else. Those who will be rewarded in heaven will be those who preached Christ. He is our salvation. Anyone who thinks anything else is anywhere near as important will be the ones doing the work of a ‘janitor’, if such a position is even there!


“2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”

2 Corinthians 4:2-6 KJV
 
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Actually it DOES matter. Yes, you might end up in Heaven.
No. Jesus is the Way to the Father, John 14:6. Jesus gives eternal life, John 3:16. Those who receive Jesus are sons of God, John 1:12.
There is no "might" about it. Have, abide, remain in Jesus, have eternal life. End of.
But what job and level will you be in Heaven?
No idea; that's up to God.
God will reward and give greater responsibilities to those that are/were more in tune to His work and plan
His work and will is that we believe in Jesus and have eternal life, John 6:29, John 6:40.
and the secrets that He specifically hid for us to spend the effort to figure out and find.
Nonsense.
God wants people to know him, Romans 1:20. He doesn't throw a book at us and say "everything you need to know is in there somewhere. Find it and you'll get a reward; don't find it, oh, bad luck."
 
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There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:1 KJV

I believe the Lord, not @d taylor
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I never said a believer is condemned and the account in Numbers 13 and 14 is not teaching this.
 
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I believe the Lord Says Pride Goes Before Destruction.
Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.
Proverbs 16:18 (NIV)

The book of Proverbs is ascribed to Solomon, not to Jesus.
 
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