Then the rest of the secular world should be in the same shape, which is not the case.
The point exactly. ps: no other western secular country has as much creationists with seats in congress/senate then the US. pps: no other wester secular country has schools even questioning biology.
But only you are willing to believe that those who claim to be christians for votes are actually Christian. They then pass laws which help the rich and downtrodden the poor. Reduce help to those in need while giving tax breaks to mega corporations. One is not what one claims to be, but the actions one does.
Just like the popes that started the crusades and inquisition, nothing but wolves in sheeps clothing out for their own power and personal gain.
People will say anything to get re-elected.
I'm not blaming religion. If you go back and read what I said, I spoke about a correlation. I didn't imply any causal links. I just noted the correlation. Which seems pretty universal. The higher the level of religiosity, the worse shape it is in.
Yet when Christianity was actually taught in schools, the problem was much, much less. Go look at history. The very year after religion was taken out of our schools is when the problems started. That's when it began to skyrocket, whether you want to admit to that or not.
I'm not saying that religion is the causal factor. It could just as well be that the actual causal factor is something else and that the higher religiosity is just another consequence of that causal factor.
Again, don't equate people going to church on Sunday to be seen by their peers as equating to belief. Then they go out and do whatever until the next time they can go to church to make themselves feel better.
Natural science classes are just about teaching students about the world around them, how it works. It has nothing to say about any values, morals, ethics or whatever.
And that's the problem, they have removed all teaching of values, morals and ethics and left it to the parent, who also was not taught values, morals or ethics, as seen in how bad society is in which people that have none rise to the top.
You mean things like higher literacy rates, less crime, less violence, less teenage pregnancy, less domestic violence, lower infant mortality, higher life expectancy, higher average income, better education, ...?
Come on, go look at the statistics. Crime has skyrocket inproportionally to population increase since religion was removed from the schools. Children blowing up other children, shooting them down in cold blood.. domestic violence has also risen disproportionately to population increase. Don't equate medical knowledge with whether or not a society is religious or no, one has nothing to do with the other.
Yeah, I kinda am a fan of those things. You not so much, it seems.
I'm a fan of those things too, but statistics says just the opposite about crime and domestic violence.
The corrolation of societal health indexes and general religiosity, shows the exact opposite trend.
That's funny, because every poll the religious majority decreases yet the societal health, crime, etc is increasing disproportionally to population increase.
I'll state a second time that I used to word "CORROLATION". It doesn't imply causation.
I'm not blaming anything. I'm just noting the statistics.
But the statistics show crime and other factors increased disproportionally to population increase just after religion was removed from the schools in what 1963 or so?
It's hilarious how you understood from my post the exact opposite of what I actually said.
Because the exact opposite is what is shown if you look at statistics since 1963 onward.