How many steps does it take?

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No, I did. But because of your lack of understanding of biological science, you were unable to anything but fall back on your own willful and arrogant ignorance.

Ahhhhhhhhh, where? In your coloring book?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The bible is my proof.

No it's not. The Bible says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about DNA, evolution or anything to do with science. It's a religious text. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Ahhhhhhhhh, where? In your coloring book?

You really need to grow up and stop acting like a child.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Ahhhhhhhhh, where? In your coloring book?

Although I will have to say, I don't think I've ever seen you say why you call it a 'colouring book'. Have a link to where you've explained why?

 

[-57]

No it's not. The Bible says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about DNA, evolution or anything to do with science. It's a religious text. Nothing more, nothing less.

The bible mentions the shortning of life spans.
Because our DNA has become corrupt God had to make laws against close relatives marrying.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The bible mentions the shortning of life spans.
Because our DNA has become corrupt God had to make laws against close relatives marrying.

And yet there is zero evidence of humans living longer and lifespans subsequently shortening. In fact, the complete opposite is true.

 

[-57]

Although I will have to say, I don't think I've ever seen you say why you call it a 'colouring book'. Have a link to where you've explained why?

It's a coloring book because it the simple version...mutation happens, gets selected, becomes part of the population.

Which really says absolutly nothing...that is never explains how the process can add to future progeny of an organism. People like you stay shallow..ckaining they have presented the hows...then whan called out on the carpet almost aways try to save face by posting replies such as the one you used...No, I did. But because of your lack of understanding of biological science, "No, I did. But because of your lack of understanding of biological science,"

So put away your crayons. Close your coloring book and show how mutations add up.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

It's a coloring book because it the simple version...mutation happens, gets selected, becomes part of the population.

Which really says absolutly nothing...that is never explains how the process can add to future progeny of an organism. People like you stay shallow..ckaining they have presented the hows...then whan called out on the carpet almost aways try to save face by posting replies such as the one you used...No, I did. But because of your lack of understanding of biological science, "No, I did. But because of your lack of understanding of biological science,"

So put away your crayons. Close your coloring book and show how mutations add up.

Hey, it's not my fault you understand jack-all about science.

 

[-57]

And yet there is zero evidence of humans living longer and lifespans subsequently shortening. In fact, the complete opposite is true.

Then why are scientist trying to unlock and reatore certain damaged genes to increase life spans? Just about every week I read a new article on that topic.

 

[-57]

Hey, it's not my fault you understand jack-all about science.

Do all diest respond in such a nasty mean manner? Once an evo resorts to ad-homs..I know I've won and they can't answer the question.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Then why are scientist trying to unlock and reatore certain damaged genes to increase life spans? Just about every week I read a new article on that topic.

Do you have an example of such a news story?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Do all diest respond in such a nasty mean manner? Once an evo resorts to ad-homs..I know I've won and they can't answer the question.

First off, it's deist. Not diest. To be fair, that just sounds like someone who's incredibly suicidal.
And I think my manner of response was quite even considering how I have never once seen you respond to anyone in the opposing camp to you in a fair and even manner either.

But if you want me to show you something, I will:

Above is a picture of the evolutionary stages of the modern whale (on the right of the image) from it's ancestor, the Ambulocetus, at the left of the image.
Now, if you look at the placement of the nostril on the Ambulocetus, you will see that it is positioned directly at the front of the snout, exactly as would be found in all terrestrial land mammals, which means that the DNA, we'll call it 1, made for the nostril to be there.
Now look at the middle skull, of the Rodhocetus. You'll see that the nostril has changed position from the front to the middle of the skull. Now this is because the Rodhocetus has adapted to live in a more aquatic environment than the Ambulocetus, but still comes up to land every once in a while. Now for the nostril to be moved to their would take the 'addition', as you call it, of DNA in the makeup of the Rodhocetus' line to shift the nostril. So this is 1 + 1 = 2.
Finally, we have the whale, which lives in a completely aquatic environment, thus changing the position of the nostril from the middle of the snout to the very top to suit the change in environment and lifestyle of the cetacean line of animals. So that's 2 + 1 = 3.

Do you understand this now? Or are you going to stop wasting everyone's time and yours and actually go and look up online the answers to your questions in actual science texts?

 

[danstribe]

In a sense what you're saying is true...since the creation of Adam and Eve...and as a result of their fall mankinds (and othe animal kingdom) DNA is actually losing information.

Actually, I was referring to BEFORE Adam and Eve, during the four billion years prior when dinosaurs roamed the earth and what looked like pre-human animals lived. God let it happen and when He was ready to create Adam (man) He wiped out everything and started again but not by evolution, by speaking and it was done. He knew we would find the bones of those creatures and that we would come up with the theory of evolution and He allowed it to test our belief in Him and at the same time the decomposing carcasses of those giant animals supposedly became what we call fossil fuel that runs the world today

 

[danstribe]

Oh yes, and with such fuel we are now able to destroy every living thing many times over

 

[-57]

Actually, I was referring to BEFORE Adam and Eve, during the four billion years prior when dinosaurs roamed the earth and what looked like pre-human animals lived. God let it happen and when He was ready to create Adam (man) He wiped out everything and started again but not by evolution, by speaking and it was done. He knew we would find the bones of those creatures and that we would come up with the theory of evolution and He allowed it to test our belief in Him and at the same time the decomposing carcasses of those giant animals supposedly became what we call fossil fuel that runs the world today

The dinosaur bones were fossilized as a result of being covered by the sedement of Noahs flood.

 

[sfs]

The question is much larger than you suggest....still, I'm waiting for an answer.

I asked "The question still is, how the DNA code can change, increase its information via a process of random chance mutations."

And I asked you which part you don't understand: How mutations happen? How information is measured? How some mutations increase information?

You said you couldn't respond until I watched the videos, so I watched the videos. Apparently, you still can't tell respond.

Well, you watched the video...how did a random process increase the information contained in the DNA code to produce such sophisticated and complex information????????

That's a different question than, "How can DNA change, increase its information via a process of random chance mutations?" There's no point in trying to understand how a bunch of mutations can produce a lot of new information if you can't understand how one mutation can produce a little information.

 

[danstribe]

The dinosaur bones were fossilized as a result of being covered by the sedement of Noahs flood.

So you don't believe the earth is billions of years old? Or that the universe is even older? Carbon dating is false? What about "aliens" from other planets? I am seriously thinking about what you've just said.

 

[sfs]

It's a coloring book because it the simple version...mutation happens, gets selected, becomes part of the population.

Yes, that's the coloring book version. What's impressive is that, even though it's the coloring book version, you still don't understand it.

Which really says absolutly nothing...that is never explains how the process can add to future progeny of an organism.

No, it doesn't say nothing. In fact, what it says is how the process adds to the future progeny of an organism. If a mutation occurs, is selected and becomes part of the population, then it's been added to the progeny.

 

[-57]

First off, it's deist. Not diest. To be fair, that just sounds like someone who's incredibly suicidal.
And I think my manner of response was quite even considering how I have never once seen you respond to anyone in the opposing camp to you in a fair and even manner either.

But if you want me to show you something, I will:

Above is a picture of the evolutionary stages of the modern whale (on the right of the image) from it's ancestor, the Ambulocetus, at the left of the image.
Now, if you look at the placement of the nostril on the Ambulocetus, you will see that it is positioned directly at the front of the snout, exactly as would be found in all terrestrial land mammals, which means that the DNA, we'll call it 1, made for the nostril to be there.
Now look at the middle skull, of the Rodhocetus. You'll see that the nostril has changed position from the front to the middle of the skull. Now this is because the Rodhocetus has adapted to live in a more aquatic environment than the Ambulocetus, but still comes up to land every once in a while. Now for the nostril to be moved to their would take the 'addition', as you call it, of DNA in the makeup of the Rodhocetus' line to shift the nostril. So this is 1 + 1 = 2.
Finally, we have the whale, which lives in a completely aquatic environment, thus changing the position of the nostril from the middle of the snout to the very top to suit the change in environment and lifestyle of the cetacean line of animals. So that's 2 + 1 = 3.

Do you understand this now? Or are you going to stop wasting everyone's time and yours and actually go and look up online the answers to your questions in actual science texts?

Above you said "You'll see that the nostril has changed position from the front to the middle of the skull."
I noticed you used... "has changed position" ...rather than is in a different position.

Both are dogs. There's more difference presented here than in your whale skulls...and we know they didn't evolve in the slow gradual way you suggested whales did.

The bottom line...you only presented a suggestion. Pointed out differences in the "whale" skulls just as I pointed out the differences in the dog skulls.

What I asked for was for you to show me how mutations could add up and produce the changes...not what you assumed the results of the process was.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Above you said "You'll see that the nostril has changed position from the front to the middle of the skull."
I noticed you used... "has changed position" ...rather than is in a different position.

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Both are dogs. There's more difference presented here than in your whale skulls...and we know they didn't evolve in the slow gradual way you suggested whales did.

The bottom line...you only presented a suggestion. Pointed out differences in the "whale" skulls just as I pointed out the differences in the dog skulls.

What I asked for was for you to show me how mutations could add up and produce the changes...not what you assumed the results of the process was.

And yet, the nostril is still at the front of the dog's snout. And here's a fun fact: all dogs are still dogs. The fact that you are confusing artificial evolution FORCED BY MAN and natural evolution shows me that you understand absolutely nothing about evolution or biological science.