This bugs me...the chosen people

[everready]

God is long suffering, tolerant, patient, and full of mercy, grace and forgiveness. It is sin that can not tolerant the presence of His Holiness, and if sin be in us, then we can not tolerant to be in His presence. There in lies the rub. We have to be cleansed of all our sins, and our robes be washed, and then the robe of His Righteousness be laid on our shoulders in order to be in His presence.

You will find this out when you open up the Temple doors of your heart and let Him in. The first thing that happens is it is swept clean of sin, so do not cling to it or you will be swept out too.

Humbly submit to His work wrought in you, and lett all the things of earth be swept out, that He may put your Temple in His Order, so that He may dwell in you.

Gods Holy Spirit has lived in me for 37 years. What more do you think I need?

 

[visionary]

Why do people try to make God Human like?
God knows not suffering, for it is merely a human emotion.
God is beyond you, beyond me, beyond all.
You can not know, you can not see, for he is not bound by the laws of humanity.

Because I have meet Him and He does relate to us and as Yeshua demonstrated as He walked the earth, cries, get angry, and empathizes with us, I do know that He created us more than just in His Image, He also gave us His characteristics, will give them if we but ask.

 

[visionary]

Gods Holy Spirit has lived in me for 37 years. What more do you think I need?

were you the one who thought that God can not tolerate sin? If you had the Holy Spirit dwell in you, you would recognise that the gifts and characteristic of the Holy Spirit is not the one not tolerating, it is the evil spirit that can not tolerate. They will be consumed from within, in their sinful self distructiveness. We are not to be consumed with sin.

 

[everready]

were you the one who thought that God can not tolerate sin? If you had the Holy Spirit dwell in you, you would recognise that the gifts and characteristic of the Holy Spirit is not the one not tolerating, it is the evil spirit that can not tolerate. They will be consumed from within, in their sinful self distructiveness. We are not to be consumed with sin.

You have just said the Holy Spirit that lives in me is of the devil. Therefore please don't ever write me again. How dare you, that is on the verge of blaspheme the Holy Spirit!!

 

[visionary]

You have just said the Holy Spirit that lives in me is of the devil. Therefore please don't ever write me again. How dare you, that is on the verge of blaspheme the Holy Spirit!!

I did Must have been the Holy Spirit conviction.... Something worth praying about... Characteristics of the Holy Spirit are long suffering, tolerant, loving, forgiving, and all I said was the it is sin that consumes from within... Sin can not tolerate to be in the presence of The Holy One of Israel. If the Holy Spirit dwells in you then you would have said Amen.

 

[everready]

I did Must have been the Holy Spirit conviction.... Something worth praying about... Characteristics of the Holy Spirit are long suffering, tolerant, loving, forgiving, and all I said was the it is sin that consumes from within... Sin can not tolerate to be in the presence of The Holy One of Israel. If the Holy Spirit dwells in you then you would have said Amen.

Amen

 

[abrokendream]

I went to the army when i was 18, the instructors put us through a program and by the end of it i was chosen as an officer. Now the fact that i was chosen was partially due to my own doing and partially due to my own doing, but mostly due to my training, referring to the effort my instructors put into the program. Now God has choosen everyone to be saved. However we have to play a small part in the process. Some people have sadly messed up and those that are- and are only by the grace of God- saved, are chosen by God to lead those that do not know Him, or those that may have messed up, back to God.

I was not chosen as an officer when i joined the millitary, but when i was qualified. God leads us or try to lead us to a very close friendship with Him, and it is the duty of those that know Him to try and help others to meet Him. We are not chosen to be saved, we are chosen because we are saved. Like i was first a soldier and second a officer.

Simple, we are chosen to help others to find Jesus because of our friendship with Him. Who is called, everyone that knows Jesus.

 

[abrokendream]

Why do people try to make God Human like?
God knows not suffering, for it is merely a human emotion.
God is beyond you, beyond me, beyond all.
You can not know, you can not see, for he is not bound by the laws of humanity.

oh and when God was on earth, Jesus, He cried.

 

[Confess]

Jesus was 100% man and 100% God.
He suffered, died and was buried like a man.
He rose up and ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father where He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, which is what makes Him Divine.

Jesus is the second person in the Trinity, He is God.

 

[The Virginian]

Why do people try to make God Human like?
God knows not suffering, for it is merely a human emotion.
God is beyond you, beyond me, beyond all.
You can not know, you can not see, for he is not bound by the laws of humanity.

The term of which you speak is "anthropomorphic", and the reason is the same as why it was that Jesus spoke mainly to the crowds in parables. The parables Jesus spoke were earthly stories people could easily understand, which He infused with heavenly meanings. A god with characteristics like mine I can more easily understand and relate to. The reason for the Incarnation was, (a) so man could have a Redeemer like unto himself, and (b) in that Redeemer, see what God was really like.
This is an argument used against the possibility and probability of there being in Jesus both a divine and a human persona. The unspeakable reality is however that it is possible for you and I to know Jesus, to be as stated in the Amplified Bible in Philippians, "...progressively, more intimately related with Him". That we having partaken in the richness of His promises, so by His power come to share in the divine nature. We call people such as that here on Earth, saints.

 

[Nadiine]

The term of which you speak is "anthropomorphic", and the reason is the same as why it was that Jesus spoke mainly to the crowds in parables. The parables Jesus spoke were earthly stories people could easily understand, which He infused with heavenly meanings. A god with characteristics like mine I can more easily understand and relate to. The reason for the Incarnation was, (a) so man could have a Redeemer like unto himself, and (b) in that Redeemer, see what God was really like.

I believe there's another reason... legitimately, Christ came to "FULFILL the LAW" of God.
Jesus (who is God and sinless) had to take on the form of a human to obey the law perfectly and thereby BECOME the perfect, unblemished sacrifice in order to pay for our sin - taking our place/paying our ransom.

He had to shed His blood, and a human is the only form He could take on to teach, fulfill prophecy and die in our place.

Galatians 4:4
But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law,
5 so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.

Heb 2:
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

 

[Nimrauko]

Ok, well all that makes sense to a Christian.
But to me, a jew, I have a completely different understanding of things. Not to say your anymore or less right than me or vice-versa.
People need to realize that the jewish people are g-ds chosen people. Plain and simple. Jesus didnt say "Christians are the new chosen people" in fact the term Christian was coined by someone other than Jesus. So yeah.

 

[Proph]

I see a lot of questions about our Lord and his ways.


Let’s keep one thing in mind. GOD does what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants to.

Let’s keep another thing in mind. Let’s be careful how we ask GOD things and demand understanding, we wont understand all things when we all are at different levels in the GOD.

And at last, Let’s keep in mind that. If you aren’t obeying the simple things like, staying active in your church, reading your bible, praying to GOD, and obeying the move of the Spirit, then don’t choke your self with questions/answers on subject that the more seasoned saints even have a hard time understanding.

GOD BLESS

 

[Nimrauko]

I see a lot of questions about our Lord and his ways.


Let’s keep one thing in mind. GOD does what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants to.

Let’s keep another thing in mind. Let’s be careful how we ask GOD things and demand understanding, we wont understand all things when we all are at different levels in the GOD.

And at last, Let’s keep in mind that. If you aren’t obeying the simple things like, staying active in your church, reading your bible, praying to GOD, and obeying the move of the Spirit, then don’t choke your self with questions/answers on subject that the more seasoned saints even have a hard time understanding.

GOD BLESS

We jews have always questioned things. Its a necessary thing to question and ask. Moses himself argued with g-d. It is foolish to follow blindly under the guise that its what you are supposed to do. If you dont understand something.......question it. Ask.

I am most disturbed by the level of underlying anti-antisemitism (Not just against us jews........see the root semitism.......the major part is Semite. So Muslims too) on this site. Christianity is put up high, and all whom do not adhere to this belief system are inferior. Its sad.

 

[Reformationist]

Christianity is put up high, and all whom do not adhere to this belief system are inferior. Its sad.

Well, I don't know that I'd say "Christianity is put up high" but, until recently, this was "Christian Forums." I imagine the same would be true of the Jewish faith on a MB that was primarily for those of the Jewish faith.

God bless

 

[Nimrauko]

Well, I don't know that I'd say "Christianity is put up high" but, until recently, this was "Christian Forums." I imagine the same would be true of the Jewish faith on a MB that was primarily for those of the Jewish faith.

God bless

Be that as it may, when you invite ALL faiths, you dont set one higher than the other, or demean other faiths

 

[Henaynei]

all faiths are invited to dialogue here - but this *is* a Christian Forum and Christians feel that their faith is the correct one, yes, even their understanding of scripture states that Christianity is the only effective path to eternal life with G-d. With the exception of most MJs, followers of Yeshua agree and believe that all other religions led their followers to eternal death. Many MJs believe some variation of Judaism being the source and foundation of apostolic faith ... as opposed to any other religious or faith beliefs...

 

[Nimrauko]

all faiths are invited to dialogue here - but this *is* a Christian Forum and Christians feel that their faith is the correct one, yes, even their understanding of scripture states that Christianity is the only effective path to eternal life with G-d. With the exception of most MJs, followers of Yeshua agree and believe that all other religions led their followers to eternal death. Many MJs believe some variation of Judaism being the source and foundation of apostolic faith ... as opposed to any other religious or faith beliefs...

I have already spoken to you about Messianic Judaism, and how its not Judaism, so I will not revisit that. But if I were to make a Judaism forums, and said "We are a jewish forum, but welcome all faiths" and then say "Christians are coming in here.........uh oh!" Then proceede to say "Christians are a false faith, Judaism is the true religion, all whom dont believe just like I do, are awful horrible people and deserve ridicule and to be ostracized.

 

[Reformationist]

Be that as it may, when you invite ALL faiths, you dont set one higher than the other, or demean other faiths

Well, if you came to a Christian forum expecting people of the Christian faith to treat your non-Christian faith as equally valid as the Christian faith then I think you've set an expectation to which even those in your non-Christian faith wouldn't adhere. Invitation does not express legitimacy. You may invite non-Jews into your synagogues but you don't let them stand up during the worship purport views that are contrary to the views of your faith. Nor would you even allow their views to be accepted as legitimate. I'd say CF, or whatever it's called now, does far better at generating interdenominational dialogue with non-Christians than your own brand of religion.

 

[Reformationist]

I have already spoken to you about Messianic Judaism, and how its not Judaism, so I will not revisit that. But if I were to make a Judaism forums, and said "We are a jewish forum, but welcome all faiths" and then say "Christians are coming in here.........uh oh!" Then proceede to say "Christians are a false faith, Judaism is the true religion, all whom dont believe just like I do, are awful horrible people and deserve ridicule and to be ostracized.

What Christian said that to you?