What do you think of Religion VS True Christianity...(Yes even Christianity can be a religion, created by its own devotees).

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I used to be a part of that "system" until I tried to commit suicide, with a 12 gauge loaded with double ought.

Finally I go home, to recover, thinking God must hate me now, and all of a sudden God speaks.

This changed my life. He spoke and my views on true Christianity, compared to what exists in the world today were transformed forever.

This allowed me to somehow (not by effort by myself, in fact it had nothing to do with me, it just came about by Him speaking to me) live the life of Hebrews CH 4, to "REST" in Him...

This is what I believe is the end game, to rest. Jesus did the work, what is the result? Better yet, have you ever seen a newborn, resting in it's mothers arms? That baby trusts her so much, their relationship so bonded, that all that baby has to do is rest in the works of the mother. As Hebrews says God rested from His works, and we must also "CEASE" from our own works.

I do not strife, to be XY or Z... I don't bemoan that I need to be more patient, or spiritual, this is all carnal religious flesh. We must see from God's view, what He desires. Jesus says it is to trust/believe 0n Him.

I am just sharing, from my experiences with God, not judging anyone. Why am I not judging? Because before GOD DID THIS FOR ME, I was living a life of sin, failure, not even understanding the scriptures or His role or my own, in this relationship, He granted me. I failed for 40+ years, every single day, I sinned. Caught in it's trap.

BUT NOW, my understanding has changed totally, but not by my own hand, this was gifted to me. I understand the garden / fall was not a mistake, God killed Jesus, not the romans or Jewish religious leadership. I understand that Sin is in the flesh, this body we live in, it can NEVER be improved, we are to live in Spirit (recon that to be a fact, more real than the flesh).

This was all God's plan, there have been no failures or plan B. How do we know this? Because in the beginning, God wrote a book. In that book were names, those would be the ones that Jesus saved, that God would draw, that Jesus said He would never lose, and since this book was written in the very beginning, that reveals that God already had this all planned out in His mind. Satan would be in the garden with Jesus, Adam would sin, Jesus would come, then die and rise from the dead.
 

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I used to be a part of that "system" until I tried to commit suicide, with a 12 gauge loaded with double ought.

Finally I go home, to recover, thinking God must hate me now, and all of a sudden God speaks.

This changed my life. He spoke and my views on true Christianity, compared to what exists in the world today were transformed forever.

This allowed me to somehow (not by effort by myself, in fact it had nothing to do with me, it just came about by Him speaking to me) live the life of Hebrews CH 4, to "REST" in Him...

This is what I believe is the end game, to rest. Jesus did the work, what is the result? Better yet, have you ever seen a newborn, resting in it's mothers arms? That baby trusts her so much, their relationship so bonded, that all that baby has to do is rest in the works of the mother. As Hebrews says God rested from His works, and we must also "CEASE" from our own works.

I do not strife, to be XY or Z... I don't bemoan that I need to be more patient, or spiritual, this is all carnal religious flesh. We must see from God's view, what He desires. Jesus says it is to trust/believe 0n Him.

I am just sharing, from my experiences with God, not judging anyone. Why am I not judging? Because before GOD DID THIS FOR ME, I was living a life of sin, failure, not even understanding the scriptures or His role or my own, in this relationship, He granted me. I failed for 40+ years, every single day, I sinned. Caught in it's trap.

BUT NOW, my understanding has changed totally, but not by my own hand, this was gifted to me. I understand the garden / fall was not a mistake, God killed Jesus, not the romans or Jewish religious leadership. I understand that Sin is in the flesh, this body we live in, it can NEVER be improved, we are to live in Spirit (recon that to be a fact, more real than the flesh).

This was all God's plan, there have been no failures or plan B. How do we know this? Because in the beginning, God wrote a book. In that book were names, those would be the ones that Jesus saved, that God would draw, that Jesus said He would never lose, and since this book was written in the very beginning, that reveals that God already had this all planned out in His mind. Satan would be in the garden with Jesus, Adam would sin, Jesus would come, then die and rise from the dead.
Welcome to the Body of Christ!
Blessings.
 
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I used to be a part of that "system" until I tried to commit suicide, with a 12 gauge loaded with double ought.

Finally I go home, to recover, thinking God must hate me now, and all of a sudden God speaks.

This changed my life. He spoke and my views on true Christianity, compared to what exists in the world today were transformed forever.

This allowed me to somehow (not by effort by myself, in fact it had nothing to do with me, it just came about by Him speaking to me) live the life of Hebrews CH 4, to "REST" in Him...

This is what I believe is the end game, to rest. Jesus did the work, what is the result? Better yet, have you ever seen a newborn, resting in it's mothers arms? That baby trusts her so much, their relationship so bonded, that all that baby has to do is rest in the works of the mother. As Hebrews says God rested from His works, and we must also "CEASE" from our own works.

I do not strife, to be XY or Z... I don't bemoan that I need to be more patient, or spiritual, this is all carnal religious flesh. We must see from God's view, what He desires. Jesus says it is to trust/believe 0n Him.

I am just sharing, from my experiences with God, not judging anyone. Why am I not judging? Because before GOD DID THIS FOR ME, I was living a life of sin, failure, not even understanding the scriptures or His role or my own, in this relationship, He granted me. I failed for 40+ years, every single day, I sinned. Caught in it's trap.

BUT NOW, my understanding has changed totally, but not by my own hand, this was gifted to me. I understand the garden / fall was not a mistake, God killed Jesus, not the romans or Jewish religious leadership. I understand that Sin is in the flesh, this body we live in, it can NEVER be improved, we are to live in Spirit (recon that to be a fact, more real than the flesh).

This was all God's plan, there have been no failures or plan B. How do we know this? Because in the beginning, God wrote a book. In that book were names, those would be the ones that Jesus saved, that God would draw, that Jesus said He would never lose, and since this book was written in the very beginning, that reveals that God already had this all planned out in His mind. Satan would be in the garden with Jesus, Adam would sin, Jesus would come, then die and rise from the dead.
I am happy you were given a second chance and survived

God killed Jesus, not the romans or Jewish religious leadership. I understand that Sin is in the flesh, this body we live in, it can NEVER be improved, we are to live in Spirit (recon that to be a fact, more real than the flesh).

God did not kill Jesus (nobody did) .... Jesus gave His life for us so there would be a pathway back to God.

John 20

17The reason the Father loves Me is that I lay down My life in order to take it up again. 18No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from My Father.”

The indwelling/working of the Holy Spirit (living in the spirit) helps us overcome our sin.

Jesus did not say, “Without me you can indeed do something, but it will be easier through me.” He said, “Apart from me you can do nothing” (John 15:5). Without the power of the Holy Spirit, we are powerless to conquer sin in a way that honors God.

The process of dying to sin more and more is called ‘sanctification’. It’s an ongoing process, worked out by the Holy Spirit: “you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:11).

If you are tempted to sin, pray for power from the Holy Spirit to resist this temptation!

Of course there is improvement .... should be improvement ... the Holy Spirit helps us improve and this is a continuing process over our earthly lives.

1 John 3:4 ESV​

Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.

God did not predetermine everyone's destiny ... He gave everyone choice ... God don't force anything on anyone.

Because of God's foreknowledge He does know what the choices are/will be made ... but He does not make the choices for us.

May you continue in your studies and be blessed ... Amen.
 
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I am happy you were given a second chance and survived



God did not kill Jesus (nobody did) .... Jesus gave His life for us so there would be a pathway back to God.

John 20

17The reason the Father loves Me is that I lay down My life in order to take it up again. 18No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from My Father.”

The indwelling/working of the Holy Spirit (living in the spirit) helps us overcome our sin.

Jesus did not say, “Without me you can indeed do something, but it will be easier through me.” He said, “Apart from me you can do nothing” (John 15:5). Without the power of the Holy Spirit, we are powerless to conquer sin in a way that honors God.

The process of dying to sin more and more is called ‘sanctification’. It’s an ongoing process, worked out by the Holy Spirit: “you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:11).

If you are tempted to sin, pray for power from the Holy Spirit to resist this temptation!

Of course there is improvement .... should be improvement ... the Holy Spirit helps us improve and this is a continuing process over our earthly lives.

1 John 3:4 ESV​

Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.

God did not predetermine everyone's destiny ... He gave everyone choice ... God don't force anything on anyone.

Because of God's foreknowledge He does know what the choices are/will be made ... but He does not make the choices for us.

May you continue in your studies and be blessed ... Amen.
Yea I get this all the time from people, its hard to hear, but its plain in the scriptures... Here is just ONE text : This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross.
 
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The indwelling/working of the Holy Spirit (living in the spirit) helps us overcome our sin.

Jesus did not say, “Without me you can indeed do something, but it will be easier through me.” He said, “Apart from me you can do nothing” (John 15:5).
How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God! Heb 9:14
 
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1 John 3:4 ESV
Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.
No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; 1 John 3:9

The one who keeps His commandments remains in Him, and He in them. 1 John 3:24

These keep the commandments of God and remain united in Jesus. Rev 14:12
God did not predetermine everyone's destiny ...
God predetermined us to sonship through Christ Jesus. Eph 1:5, Rom 8:29
He gave everyone choice ...
Therefore, choose life [in Christ], so that you will live; Deut 30:19 For He is Chayyeicha (your life, Pp 1:21; Ac 17:28), Devarim 30:20
God don't force anything on anyone.
Now if you are exempt from correction in which all of God’s children share, then you are illegitimate children; Heb 12:8
They will die because they refused to be corrected. Prov 5:23 By undergoing His correction we will not be condemned with the world. 1 Cor 11:32 Blessed is the one whom God corrects; Job 5:17 Whoever heeds life-giving correction will be at home among the wise. Proverbs 15:31 Consider then how you walk, not as unwise people, but as wise people. Ephesians 5:14-15
The wise shall inherit glory, But shame shall be the legacy of fools. Proverbs 3:35
 
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I used to be a part of that "system" until I tried to commit suicide, with a 12 gauge loaded with double ought.

Finally I go home, to recover, thinking God must hate me now, and all of a sudden God speaks.

This changed my life. He spoke and my views on true Christianity, compared to what exists in the world today were transformed forever.

This allowed me to somehow (not by effort by myself, in fact it had nothing to do with me, it just came about by Him speaking to me) live the life of Hebrews CH 4, to "REST" in Him...

This is what I believe is the end game, to rest. Jesus did the work, what is the result? Better yet, have you ever seen a newborn, resting in it's mothers arms? That baby trusts her so much, their relationship so bonded, that all that baby has to do is rest in the works of the mother. As Hebrews says God rested from His works, and we must also "CEASE" from our own works.

I do not strife, to be XY or Z... I don't bemoan that I need to be more patient, or spiritual, this is all carnal religious flesh. We must see from God's view, what He desires. Jesus says it is to trust/believe 0n Him.

I am just sharing, from my experiences with God, not judging anyone. Why am I not judging? Because before GOD DID THIS FOR ME, I was living a life of sin, failure, not even understanding the scriptures or His role or my own, in this relationship, He granted me. I failed for 40+ years, every single day, I sinned. Caught in it's trap.

BUT NOW, my understanding has changed totally, but not by my own hand, this was gifted to me. I understand the garden / fall was not a mistake, God killed Jesus, not the romans or Jewish religious leadership. I understand that Sin is in the flesh, this body we live in, it can NEVER be improved, we are to live in Spirit (recon that to be a fact, more real than the flesh).

This was all God's plan, there have been no failures or plan B. How do we know this? Because in the beginning, God wrote a book. In that book were names, those would be the ones that Jesus saved, that God would draw, that Jesus said He would never lose, and since this book was written in the very beginning, that reveals that God already had this all planned out in His mind. Satan would be in the garden with Jesus, Adam would sin, Jesus would come, then die and rise from the dead.
My path seems very similar to yours
 
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No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; 1 John 3:9

The one who keeps His commandments remains in Him, and He in them. 1 John 3:24

These keep the commandments of God and remain united in Jesus. Rev 14:12

God predetermined us to sonship through Christ Jesus. Eph 1:5, Rom 8:29

Therefore, choose life [in Christ], so that you will live; Deut 30:19 For He is Chayyeicha (your life, Pp 1:21; Ac 17:28), Devarim 30:20

Now if you are exempt from correction in which all of God’s children share, then you are illegitimate children; Heb 12:8
They will die because they refused to be corrected. Prov 5:23 By undergoing His correction we will not be condemned with the world. 1 Cor 11:32 Blessed is the one whom God corrects; Job 5:17 Whoever heeds life-giving correction will be at home among the wise. Proverbs 15:31 Consider then how you walk, not as unwise people, but as wise people. Ephesians 5:14-15
The wise shall inherit glory, But shame shall be the legacy of fools. Proverbs 3:35
yep .. choices ... we are continuously making them ... by the grace of God we will not be condemned by them.

The law leads us to Christ and when one has become His adopted child ... He leads us back to the law and helps us keep the law out of love .... we will indeed fall here and there but He is always there to help us begin again. The sanctification of the Lord is earthly life long. God is good!!!
 
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yep .. choices ... we are continuously making them ... by the grace of God we will not be condemned by them.
To everyone who does good will come praise, honor, and peace: to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile. Rom 2:10 NMB
The law leads us to Christ and when one has become His adopted child ...
But after this faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
For you are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:25-29
He leads us back to the law and helps us keep the law out of love .... we will indeed fall here
and there but He is always there to help us begin again.
Let that therefore abide in you, which you have heard from the beginning. If that which you have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, you also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he has promised us, even eternal life. 1 John 2:23-25
The sanctification of the Lord is earthly life long. God is good!!!
God chose you from the beginning to be saved through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth. 2 Thess 2:13
 
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To follow Jesus you have to be born again. WeLL hOw Do YoU dO tHaT aGain?
Someone needs to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God;

Laying the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God.

It is the Spirit who gives life; dead works profits nothing. John 6:62-63

For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 3:11, 1 Peter 1:3

Dead love couldn't go no further...Oh Lord I ain't coming home with you
 
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Someone needs to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God;

Laying the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God.

It is the Spirit who gives life; dead works profits nothing. John 6:62-63

For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 3:11, 1 Peter 1:3

Dead love couldn't go no further...Oh Lord I ain't coming home with you

We cannot receive the bread of life, or the fruits of the Spirit, unless we first go through the water, that is, the realization of our fallenness, just like those during the days of Noah, who did not repent, until the water was a reality.

When we face our conviction, or death, we can be certain that Christ is with us, and will raise us up. This mercy is not given to those outside the faith.
 
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We cannot receive the bread of life, or the fruits of the Spirit, unless we first go through the water, that is, the realization of our fallenness, just like those during the days of Noah, who did not repent, until the water was a reality.
But unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Luke 13:5
When we face our conviction, or death, we can be certain that Christ is with us, and will raise us up. This mercy is not given to those outside the faith.
Him God has exalted to His right hand to be Prince and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.
And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him. Acts 5:31-32
 
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