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<blockquote data-quote="stevevw" data-source="post: 77573385" data-attributes="member: 342064"><p>Actually King Davids Kingdom was bigger than Isreal is today. It also covered Isreal, Judah and parts of Jordan, Syria, Turkey and Lebanon as well. Latest archeological evidence shows ancient cities within the Kingdom were substancial in size including a large city that was associated with administering the Kingdom. So it was not small. No small nation can build such big cities or need to for that matter.</p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">Two fortified sites dating to the 10th century have been unearthed which scholars believe are evidence of such a centralized authority controlling the region. “The massive construction of the Khirbet Qeiyafa city wall, which required 200,000 tons of stone, and the massive eastern gate of the city with two stones of ca. 10 tons each, proclaim the power and authority of a centralize political organization, namely a state.”16</span></em> </p><p><a href="https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2021/06/11/top-ten-discoveries-related-to-david/" target="_blank">Top Ten Discoveries Related to David</a></p><p></p><p>Ah I see your skeptical of King David even existing let alone being less of a figure than claimed. There is ample evidence now coming from the last couple of decades with new discoveries which supports King David as the above link shows including one from only 50 years after his death.</p><p></p><p>The archeological evidence shows King Davids Kingdom was no small thing. This includes discovery of his massive Palace which would seem strange for a tribal king but rather like all other figures that had large cities and palaces a King of some significance. </p><p></p><p>Just like skeptics have thought about all the other Biblical figures, cities and places not existing that have now been verified. </p><p></p><p>Here we have a religion which has been verified existing in the land at the time. You would think that being a religion and having priests and prophets that there would be some notable figures associated with its beginning like all other religions ie Muhammad for Islam, Christ for Christians. </p><p></p><p>Sure you can make one up but what happened to the actual person who began the religion, who built the alters and left the other evidence. That was not legend but real artefacts in the ground. If there were real people making real artefacts then why wouldn't there be real people who were perhaps leaders at that time which were associated with those events. </p><p></p><p>We have evidence of an alter on the very rock within the Dome of the Rock which is suppose to be where Abraham placed his alter. Thats the same Rock that Mohummad was suppose to have flown on a horse to the 7 heavens. </p><p></p><p>So someone built the alter and why would not this great even be told and passed down. Why hide the name of the one who built such an important alter in Jewish culture. Why make a person up when you had an actual person or persons build the alter. </p><p></p><p>But these are particular alters with burnt offerings of only certain animals which are associated with the Jews. there is also archeological evidence going back to the 15th century BC showing the Jews worshing God YHW. So it makes sense that this would have been the same God of Abraham considering he came only a couple of centuries before. </p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://aleteia.org/2022/03/29/archaeologists-just-found-the-oldest-inscription-of-the-hebrew-name-of-god/[/URL]</p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Thats where the archeological evidence can help which is showing more and more that much of the Biblical accounts are pretty close to what actually happened. Sure theres no evidence for the supernatural events but certainly the people, places and other historical events happened and we even see that from other cultures who mention the Jews. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevevw, post: 77573385, member: 342064"] Actually King Davids Kingdom was bigger than Isreal is today. It also covered Isreal, Judah and parts of Jordan, Syria, Turkey and Lebanon as well. Latest archeological evidence shows ancient cities within the Kingdom were substancial in size including a large city that was associated with administering the Kingdom. So it was not small. No small nation can build such big cities or need to for that matter. [I][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]Two fortified sites dating to the 10th century have been unearthed which scholars believe are evidence of such a centralized authority controlling the region. “The massive construction of the Khirbet Qeiyafa city wall, which required 200,000 tons of stone, and the massive eastern gate of the city with two stones of ca. 10 tons each, proclaim the power and authority of a centralize political organization, namely a state.”16[/COLOR][/I] [URL="https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2021/06/11/top-ten-discoveries-related-to-david/"]Top Ten Discoveries Related to David[/URL] Ah I see your skeptical of King David even existing let alone being less of a figure than claimed. There is ample evidence now coming from the last couple of decades with new discoveries which supports King David as the above link shows including one from only 50 years after his death. The archeological evidence shows King Davids Kingdom was no small thing. This includes discovery of his massive Palace which would seem strange for a tribal king but rather like all other figures that had large cities and palaces a King of some significance. Just like skeptics have thought about all the other Biblical figures, cities and places not existing that have now been verified. Here we have a religion which has been verified existing in the land at the time. You would think that being a religion and having priests and prophets that there would be some notable figures associated with its beginning like all other religions ie Muhammad for Islam, Christ for Christians. Sure you can make one up but what happened to the actual person who began the religion, who built the alters and left the other evidence. That was not legend but real artefacts in the ground. If there were real people making real artefacts then why wouldn't there be real people who were perhaps leaders at that time which were associated with those events. We have evidence of an alter on the very rock within the Dome of the Rock which is suppose to be where Abraham placed his alter. Thats the same Rock that Mohummad was suppose to have flown on a horse to the 7 heavens. So someone built the alter and why would not this great even be told and passed down. Why hide the name of the one who built such an important alter in Jewish culture. Why make a person up when you had an actual person or persons build the alter. But these are particular alters with burnt offerings of only certain animals which are associated with the Jews. there is also archeological evidence going back to the 15th century BC showing the Jews worshing God YHW. So it makes sense that this would have been the same God of Abraham considering he came only a couple of centuries before. [URL unfurl="true"]https://aleteia.org/2022/03/29/archaeologists-just-found-the-oldest-inscription-of-the-hebrew-name-of-god/[/URL] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]Thats where the archeological evidence can help which is showing more and more that much of the Biblical accounts are pretty close to what actually happened. Sure theres no evidence for the supernatural events but certainly the people, places and other historical events happened and we even see that from other cultures who mention the Jews. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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