Nuclear Strike "most likely" Coming!

[Aviel]

Exactly the same forces exist in Russia.

Ukraine Battalions exist in Russia?

What TRIP are you taking that causes you to post something like that?

No they don't.
What you posted are not photos of Russia Soldiers in the Military.. whereas the Azov Nazi's, are a Battalion IN the Ukraine Army.
There are NO Nazi Battalions in any part of the Russia Military

You dont find this in Russia., because this is a UKRAINE Nazi Patch on a UKRAINIAN Soldier....

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But for the sake of fairness, it must be said that neither in Ukraine nor in Russia the National Socialists have a majority either in parliament or in the government.

For the sake of Honestly, you need to get your sources correct and yourself also. @ValeriyK2022 .

See, you have no idea what you are talking about, at all.

And what you need to do, is research some things..

Start here.. @ValeriyK2022

In July 2021 Russia became the most recent nation to join European countries adopting legal measures aimed at stopping the spread of Nazi symbols and ideology. Nations including Germany, France, Austria, Belgium, Romania and Spain have had laws for more than a decade targeting revisionism.

Russia’s new Federal Law No. 280-FZ prohibits the use or public display of Nazi symbols, speeches, or images of leaders or groups identified as criminal by the International Military Tribunal during the 1945-46 Nuremberg Trials. In addition to prohibiting materials related to the Nazi Party, the legislation also extends to cover the Fascist Party of Italy, as well as organizations that collaborated with Axis war criminals, and groups that promote “national and/or racial superiority” or “justify the practice of committing war or crimes aimed at the complete or partial destruction of any ethnic, social, racial, national or religious group.”

 

[Kokavkrystallos]

In my opinion, both countries have already lost. In addition, the EU countries (the US's main allies in the world) have already lost too. Now I will explain why.

Ukrainians in 1991 numbered 52 million. Now even 30 million is a pipe dream. Nobody knows how many are left: 20 or 25. For such a huge territory (the largest country in Europe after Russia), this is not enough. Children left en masse for the European Union, and old people stayed.

There is also a strong demographic crisis in Russia. As a result, these lands may go to Asian peoples of Muslim origin, as happened in the former Yugoslavia. Little by little, Asian peoples of predominantly Muslim faith will become neighbors of the European Union instead of the post-Christian peoples of Russia and Ukraine (who are close to Europeans in language and culture). Only they have a high birth rate.

That is why everyone has already lost this war: Ukraine, Russia, Europe and the USA.

The longer people die in this war, the more this problem will escalate and then lead to terrible results for all of the above parties.

I believe whatever happens is all part of setting up for the battles of Ezekiel 38 & 39, and in Revelation it does talk of the Kings of the east coming with a 200 million man army. The only ones who win in the end are Israel, and ultimately Yahweh the LORD, when Jesus returns.

And I remember well in 2022 as I followed this daily even moreso than now, how many millions left Ukraine right in the first weeks of the war, and then continued to do so. We don't know how many really left, or how many are really killed. The death toll statistics can only be estimates, and may be higher than they say. Same with the Israel-Hamas war.

I'd like to see Russia & Ukraine reunited under a decent Russian government, not perfect, but better than what's going on now. I often look at Vietnam. the West lost that war same as Afghanistan, but the difference is, Vietnam turned out to be better than it had been when it was divided, and it was the Communist/socialists who won! Not perfect, but better.

"Once one of the world's poorest and most isolated countries, Vietnam is now a middle-income country with a dynamic, young population and a promising future. Since joining ASEAN in 1997, Vietnam has played a significant role in regional diplomacy and development."

The Current Situation in Vietnam

Nearly 50 years since the end of the Vietnam War, and more than a quarter-century since the normalization of U.S.-Vietnam relations, Vietnam is emerging as a rising power at the heart of the Indo-Pacific region and an increasingly important U.S. partner. Once one of the world’s poorest and most...

www.usip.org

 

[7thKeeper]

I'd like to see Russia & Ukraine reunited under a decent Russian government, not perfect, but better than what's going on now. I often look at Vietnam. the West lost that war same as Afghanistan, but the difference is, Vietnam turned out to be better than it had been when it was divided, and it was the Communist/socialists who won! Not perfect, but better.

Bad example on my opinion. Vietnam had been it's own nationalist identity before it was divided and merely returned to that after the reunification. Ukraine had been it's own distinct national identity, even forming a government in exile while under USSR rule, distinct from USSR/Russia amd having historically existed in some form or another distinct from Russia before that as well.
It would be more like saying that Vietnam would be better off "reunited" under a Chinese government.

 

[Whyayeman]

I'd like to see Russia & Ukraine reunited under a decent Russian government, not perfect, but better than what's going on now.

That is precisely Putin's position, casting himself as 'a decent Russian'. It is not what the vast majority of Ukrainians want.

To them 're-united' means 'subjugated'. Putin's plan is like that of Catherine the Great. She too sent an invading army into Ukraine and for similar reasons - imperial expansion.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I'd like to see Russia & Ukraine reunited under a decent Russian government, not perfect, but better than what's going on now.

The problem with that is that the Russians and Ukrainians are different people with different languages. They haven't been "the same" since the time when the Rus ruled from Kyiv. The Moskovites later took the name of the Rus for themselves -- Russian.

 

[Kokavkrystallos]

The problem with that is that the Russians and Ukrainians are different people with different languages. They haven't been "the same" since the time when the Rus ruled from Kyiv. The Moskovites later took the name of the Rus for themselves -- Russian.

And I'm aware of the rift between Kiev and Moskovites. When reading the history of Rus it dates back quite a ways. But there was also a time of unity. The Orthodox Church also kept some form of unity. Then again in USA there is still somewhat of a rift between north and south. Rebel flags still fly, but back in 2020 the "North" launched an all out assault against the Confederacy, tearing down statues, renaming things, burning Confederate flags.

 

[Hans Blaster]

And I'm aware of the rift between Kiev and Moskovites. When reading the history of Rus it dates back quite a ways. But there was also a time of unity. The Orthodox Church also kept some form of unity.

There are other nations that share the Orthodox Church, they are not unified together ethnically or politically be default.

Then again in USA there is still somewhat of a rift between north and south.

Not even close to the same thing. A more similar analogy would be if the US claimed reunification with Canada, invaded, and tried to eradicate Canadian identity.

Rebel flags still fly, but back in 2020 the "North" launched an all out assault against the Confederacy, tearing down statues, renaming things, burning Confederate flags.

The Confederacy was defeated 155 years before 2020. It ended then. The traitor's banner should never be flown. It is only good for burning.

 

[Whyayeman]

And I'm aware of the rift between Kiev and Moskovites. When reading the history of Rus it dates back quite a ways. But there was also a time of unity.

That is a partial view if ever I saw one. But the grain of truth it contains only demonstrates that Ukraine and Russia have always been separate entities. More to the point is the recent separation when Ukraine achieved its independence. It is clear that Ukrainians are in the main determined to hold on to that independence against a Russia bent on imperial expansion. They have this in common with all countries that have achieved independence.

In what is now the Republic of Ireland there was once 'also a time of unity' with the United Kingdom. However, there isn't the slightest possibility of restoring that 'unity' even if anybody wanted to. Absolutely nobody in the UK is thinking of dropping bombs on Dublin or re-occupying parts of the Republic of Ireland.

Contrast this with Putin's ambitions over Ukraine.

 

[Desk trauma]

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There has been an interesting thing on Polish YouTube for a couple of years now, they are YT channels intended for Christians, in which messages are written from spiritual beings who have reached several prophets from all over the world,
Each message goes to more than 10 of these Christian channels..
It is supposed to be messages in which these beings, for several years now, have been speaking to a large prayer group that he is preparing for the great judgment, they wrote them various messages there, including apocalyptic ones, which they are expected to deliver soon,
But they say there are only days left until the big disaster...
It's interesting....

https://m.youtube.com/@WorldofPrayers

Just days? That’s going to age like milk.

 

[Hans Blaster]

The Vietnamese option is also not suitable because Vietnam has never been a Christian people.

The only "Vietnamese option" I saw above was a reference to uniting divided Vietnam under China. Ukraine wasn't divided prior to Russia's invasion.

What God forgives to nations who have not known Jesus Christ, He does not forgive those who have known Him and departed from Him (in essence). This is Europe with Yugoslavia (Serbia), this is Georgia, this is Russia and Ukraine. What God forgives China, India or Vietnam, He will not forgive defectors (Europe, Georgia, Russia and Ukraine).

What?

And the USA can also be considered a post-Christian people.

I try to tell people that, but they won't accept the reality. (No need to continue on this, back to Ukraine.)

It is the post-Christian peoples who will suffer the most. The population will decrease and, due to the demographic crisis, people will have to be imported from Asia and Africa at such a rapid pace that they will not have time to assimilate. They will simply replace first the Ukrainians, and then other Europeans. Thus, they will gradually occupy these territories without war. This is the punishment for mass apostasy from faith in Jesus Christ.

And no one will can do anything unless there is a massive conversion to Jesus Christ. They (politiks) will all blame each other until even greater trouble comes for everyone.

How does this have anything to do with the war?

Regarding whether Ukrainians and Russians are culturally or genetically distant, this is not an important question at all. Ukrainians were ready to give up part of their sovereignty in order to join the EU (only while maintaining traditional values regarding family and gender).

It is clear from the actions of Ukrainians that language and the state are not the main thing for them now. The main thing: human rights (the right to life, to personal freedom and security and to personal dignity) and a high quality of life.

You can have both. It's kind of the "EU thing" -- human rights, high quality of life, and regional language and culture in a large economic sphere. It's not hard to understand why the majority of Ukrainians prefer this to Slavic/Orthodox unity with the repressive Russian state.

Ukrainians get along well with Poles, Czechs and even Germans, the main thing is that the attitude is good and there is an opportunity to work and earn decent money. And they get by very well without a language; they learn Polish, German, French, English, Italian. And these languages for Ukrainians are much more difficult than Russian (just as for Russian there is no easier language than Ukrainian).

Therefore, the issue is not the language, but the fact that states are in a state of war and there is a massive loss of life. Solving the issue of language through war is like putting out a fire with gasoline.

At the same time, the idea of all similar peoples living in one country is unreasonable. What is this for? This will only lead to wars. For example, there are 2 neighboring countries (Germany and Austria, USA and Canada). They are as similar to each other as Russia and Ukraine. Why unite them into one country? Who will benefit from this? They can do wherever everything they go anyway. Why unite them under one White House? To have a reason to fight?

Again, it is not clear what your point is here.

 

[Whyayeman]

It is clear from the actions of Ukrainians that language and the state are not the main thing for them now. The main thing: human rights (the right to life, to personal freedom and security and to personal dignity) and a high quality of life.

And it is equally clear from the actions of the Russian government that they wish to deny them these things. And there are reasons for this; many Ukrainians have family connections over the border. Many Russians know very well what is going on in Ukraine and would like some of it for themselves.

That sort of thing would bring an end to the Putin fantasy of a New Russian Empire. If you don't yet believe Putin's ambitions, just watch a bit of the ceremonial swearing in for Putin's fifth term of office!)

 

[Hans Blaster]

It is that no one takes God and His will into account. They live as if He does not exist.

It is the most reasonable position I could take.

War must have meaning. What is the point in a war in which Ukraine, Russia and Europe have already lost and the United States will soon lose too?

Wars must have "meaning"? Never heard that one before.

It seems to me that I have substantiated that the more people die, the greater the loss.

That's how cumulative loss works.

For Ukrainians right away, for Russians a little later, for Europeans even later, and for Americans even later. But everyone will lose!

More precisely, all the named parties have already lost, but they will see the consequences at different times.

War is rarely something that can be won. Avoiding the worse outcome is usually the best goal.

This is a response to several posts I've read.
1. I object that linguistic differences or similarities between languages can be a cause of military conflicts. If so, then everyone in the EU would already be at war with each other. But if there is mutual respect, then language differences do not lead to military or other conflicts. It is a myth that Ukrainians are such nationalists that they are ready to fight over their language. The reasons are other.

I agree with you. The linguistic claims are not realistic and Putin's claims of such are not plausible or believable.

2. I do not agree that if Russia had a smart and kind Christian and democratic government, then it would be a good solution to annex Ukraine to Russia. This is the same as the US starting to annex Canada. What is this for? Or Germany - Austria. What is this for? Russia and Ukraine were in the same state until 1991. Then they divided the property without war. Now there is such an intensity of passions that without war it will be difficult to divide anything.

In these kinds of cases, if the smaller state *wanted* some sort of union that would be one thing. Without it, forcing it to occur is not justified.