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<blockquote data-quote="Ophiolite" data-source="post: 77620273" data-attributes="member: 234799"><p>If the debate is an academic style debate where one is assigned a position to defend, then certain kinds of lie would be part of the repertoire of the debator and a victory would be a real victory. The lie would be analagous to the sacrifice of a piece in chess to lure the opponent into a trap. </p><p></p><p>I want to reply earlier to your post #42, but I got sidetracked.</p><p>You said:</p><p></p><p>I disagree. Witholding information that is relevant to the proper understanding of a situation is a form of lying. It is an especially invidious form of lying since telling a partial truth creates confidence in the target of the lying that they can trust the lie. So, it's not a matter of omitting information that makes it a lie, but the deliberate omission of relevant information in order to deceive.</p><p>You provided an example in your next paragraph about high pressure sales tactics.</p><p></p><p>That is lying by omission. And because the omitted fact is invisible it can be difficult to detect. Your tactic of delaying a decision to the following day is an excellent one. If after thinking about the offer you do find it attractive it will still be available the following day, regardless of what they have said. Call them back and say you will sign up, but only if they reduce the price by X%. And you need an answer now, or the deals off. Play them at their own game. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ophiolite, post: 77620273, member: 234799"] If the debate is an academic style debate where one is assigned a position to defend, then certain kinds of lie would be part of the repertoire of the debator and a victory would be a real victory. The lie would be analagous to the sacrifice of a piece in chess to lure the opponent into a trap. I want to reply earlier to your post #42, but I got sidetracked. You said: I disagree. Witholding information that is relevant to the proper understanding of a situation is a form of lying. It is an especially invidious form of lying since telling a partial truth creates confidence in the target of the lying that they can trust the lie. So, it's not a matter of omitting information that makes it a lie, but the deliberate omission of relevant information in order to deceive. You provided an example in your next paragraph about high pressure sales tactics. That is lying by omission. And because the omitted fact is invisible it can be difficult to detect. Your tactic of delaying a decision to the following day is an excellent one. If after thinking about the offer you do find it attractive it will still be available the following day, regardless of what they have said. Call them back and say you will sign up, but only if they reduce the price by X%. And you need an answer now, or the deals off. Play them at their own game. :) [/QUOTE]
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