Everyday Chicago residents fed up with illegals, have to step over them daily

Ignatius the Kiwi · May 9, 2024

Maria Billingsley said:
The only "law" Jesus Christ of Nazareth taught was the " law of love". Beyond rendering to government there is His Law.

‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

Does this mean there can be no order to society? That everyone is entitled to be anywhere they want?

Maria Billingsley · May 9, 2024

BobRyan said:
His Law "to "render to Caesar that which is Caesars" -- allows us to execute murderers, put criminals in Jail etc.

Or we could simply dismiss them all and claim that those sorts of laws are not loving toward the law-breaker.

Not many Christians go for "no laws, no enforcement let chaos reign" as if Jesus "wants it that way". I think we would all agree on that point.

Rom 13
there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; 4 for it is a servant of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a servant of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. 5 Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for rulers are servants of God, devoting themselves to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is due them: tax to whom tax is due; custom to whom custom; respect to whom respect; honor to whom honor.

I posted His Law. It is love. Hard to understand, I know, because it goes against the flesh.

Maria Billingsley · May 9, 2024

Ignatius the Kiwi said:
Does this mean there can be no order to society? That everyone is entitled to be anywhere they want?

The law of love. It goes beyond what the flesh is normally driven to do.

Maria Billingsley · May 9, 2024

discombobulated1 said:
What a joke!

You think human beings know anything about REAL (objective) LOVE?

Catholics who look @ a Crucifix often and love the Church know about it... and all those who are deep into Christ.. problem is: most people, the ones I know or hear about do not seem to be deep into Jesus... which is not easy, I admit. But in any case, this is why our world is a total moral train wreck

Understood. This is us why Jesus Christ of Nazareth said that VERY few will find the narrow gate because it is based in love which can only he revealed through His Holy Spirit.

Maria Billingsley · May 9, 2024

discombobulated1 said:
Luke 16:19?

I fail to see what that has to do with this topic.

There was no gate crasher in that parable Jesus told

It has to do with love.

RDKirk · May 9, 2024

Laodicean60 said:
Transgenderism probably upset the women in their party.

Liberal women don't seem to be bothered by transgenderism. In fact, a man who stands up for biological women will find liberal women are his greatest antagonists.

Laodicean60 · May 9, 2024

RDKirk said:
Liberal women don't seem to be bothered by transgenderism. In fact, a man who stands up for biological women will find liberal women are his greatest antagonists.

Not the liberal women who competed in sports.

Ignatius the Kiwi · May 9, 2024

Maria Billingsley said:
The law of love. It goes beyond what the flesh is normally driven to do.

And should such a law be mandated? Should people be made to give up their homes/communities to strangers rather than offering them of their own free will?

The problem is that you are making an act of grace/charity an imposition on people.

discombobulated1 · May 9, 2024

Ignatius the Kiwi said:
And should such a law be mandated? Should people be made to give up their homes/communities to strangers rather than offering them of their own free will?

The problem is that you are making an act of grace/charity an imposition on people.

That is an excellent point. I've thought of it before but... guess I'm kind of fixated on this other issue /issues right now, so didn't think of it.

That's why God made more than one person, btw... so if one person is too distracted to think of something... too overwhelmed... too focused on other stuff... not too bright or what have you, there will always be someone else who remembers the good point

discombobulated1 · May 9, 2024

Also, there is this:

What about LOVE for law and order?

isn't that why we have a legislature? Again, what good does it to do to make laws if no one isexpected to obey them

doesn't make sense.

Also again: If you don't like the law, work to change the dang thing. Breaking it or condoning others breaking it is not a good thing...

Maria Billingsley · May 9, 2024

Ignatius the Kiwi said:
And should such a law be mandated? Should people be made to give up their homes/communities to strangers rather than offering them of their own free will?

The problem is that you are making an act of grace/charity an imposition on people.

An " imposition " , interesting word to use. Do you know what it means? Jesus Christ of Nazareth did it for all sinners.

"the laying on of something as a burden or obligation".

“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.
- Jesus Christ of Nazareth-

Ignatius the Kiwi · May 9, 2024

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Maria Billingsley said:
An " imposition " , interesting word to use. Do you know what it means? Jesus Christ of Nazareth did it for all sinners.

"the laying on of something as a burden or obligation".

“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.
- Jesus Christ of Nazareth-

It's an imposition when you force people to accept the stranger without their approval or will. Do you house illegal migrants in your house and give them access to everything you own?

Maria Billingsley · May 9, 2024

Ignatius the Kiwi said:
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It's an imposition when you force people to accept the stranger without their approval or will. Do you house illegal migrants in your house and give them access to everything you own?

You are not getting the bigger picture here. I do hope one day you will understand.

Be blessed.

RDKirk · May 9, 2024

Laodicean60 said:
Not the liberal women who competed in sports.

I was thinking specifically about sports. You're 180 degrees wrong on that. Or didn't you know that if a woman disbelieves that a man can become a real woman, all the other liberals take away her "liberal" card?

Ignatius the Kiwi · May 9, 2024

Maria Billingsley said:
You are not getting the bigger picture here. I do hope one day you will understand.

Be blessed.

What is the bigger picture do you have in mind exactly? You're sort of justifying illegal migration on the basis of Christian love and that one simply has to accept it no matter how reluctant they are.

Does this principle of accepting the outsider include every aspect of life?

Maria Billingsley · May 10, 2024

Ignatius the Kiwi said:
What is the bigger picture do you have in mind exactly? You're sort of justifying illegal migration on the basis of Christian love and that one simply has to accept it no matter how reluctant they are.

Does this principle of accepting the outsider include every aspect of life?

The bigger picture:

Matthew 25
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’

Laodicean60 · May 10, 2024

RDKirk said:
I was thinking specifically about sports. You're 180 degrees wrong on that.

I base my comment with a conversation with my oldest daughter who is liberal and she says it is not fair and I agree with her.

RDKirk said:
You're 180 degrees wrong on that

Have you ever thought that you might be wrong?

RDKirk said:
Or didn't you know that if a woman disbelieves that a man can become a real woman, all the other liberals take away her "liberal" card?

Well, I remember the feminist movement, and now because of men with mental Illness the feminist who complain about transgenderism the left labels them as "extremist feminists" to make them look bad. If a woman disbelieves they are kicked out of the tribe.

RDKirk · May 10, 2024

Laodicean60 said:
Well, I remember the feminist movement, and now because of men with mental Illness the feminist who complain about transgenderism the left labels them as "extremist feminists" to make them look bad. If a woman disbelieves they are kicked out of the tribe.

Liberal women don't seem to be bothered by transgenderism. In fact, men or women who stand up for biological women will find liberal women are their greatest antagonists. Women like Riley Gaines are most opposed by other women, not by men.

BTW, there is a difference between a Radical Feminist and a Liberal Feminist. Those terms are capitalized because they refer to different ideologies. The term Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist (TERF) explicitly designates "Radical Feminists" because the Radical Feminist ideology necessarily excludes men who call themselves women.

Laodicean60 · May 10, 2024

RDKirk said:
Liberal women don't seem to be bothered by transgenderism.

Don't lump them together. I told you that my liberal daughter says it's unfair in sports! Don't try to justify that mental illness.

RDKirk said:
BTW, there is a difference between a Radical Feminist and a Liberal Feminist. Those terms are capitalized because they refer to different ideologies. The term Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist (TERF) explicitly designates "Radical Feminists" because the Radical Feminist ideology necessarily excludes men who call themselves women.

I don't care about all the labels we can justify the lunacy all we want but if you are a Christian and believe the bible it says, man and women, not men who want to be women. Out

discombobulated1 · May 10, 2024

Ignatius the Kiwi said:
What is the bigger picture do you have in mind exactly? You're sort of justifying illegal migration on the basis of Christian love and that one simply has to accept it no matter how reluctant they are.

Does this principle of accepting the outsider include every aspect of life?

People who are into this illegal invasion are making the decision for EVERYONE else that these STRANGERS should be accepted and their needs taken care of (at the expense of Americans), despite the fact we have PLENTY of American citizens who need help. Everyone has seen the homeless people sleeping on park benches or just wherever they can find a (hopefully safe) place.

Did we solve the homeless problem before we took on more needy people?

NO

covid made people homeless because they lost their jobs... But boy, we're doing good in America! We can take care of the whole world!

And that is exactly what is coming in--people from every nation in the world. We don't have a clue what most of them are up to and the ones we do know are terrorists and other criminals.

"Love" doesn't mean tossing out your brain

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