World population expected to reach 9 billion by 2050

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Glaz

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http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/08/17/world.population.ap/index.html

The population of developing nations will 8 billion. Russia, Japan, Germany, and Italy will see significant decreases in their population. America will see a steady increase to about 430 million.

The implications are that Russia and Japan are breeding themselves out of existence. Birth rates are lower than death rates, causing decreases in population. The problem is western women are focusing more on careers than having children, more and more women are choosing not to have children at all and thats going to have an impact in the future as many countries experience decreasing or stagnant population. The Muslims may have the last laugh in the 'clash of cultures' , since their populations are expected to rise significantly.
 

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SoupySayles said:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/08/17/world.population.ap/index.html

The population of developing nations will 8 billion. Russia, Japan, Germany, and Italy will see significant decreases in their population. America will see a steady increase to about 430 million.

The implications are that Russia and Japan are breeding themselves out of existence. Birth rates are lower than death rates, causing decreases in population. The problem is western women are focusing more on careers than having children, more and more women are choosing not to have children at all and thats going to have an impact in the future as many countries experience decreasing or stagnant population. The Muslims may have the last laugh in the 'clash of cultures' , since their populations are expected to rise significantly.

I'm not sure that calling the problem 'women' is really going to help us solve it or understand it. This problem of low birth rates in industrialized nations is likely a temporary one, and will probably turn itself around on it's own.
 
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Folk often quote Jesus as saying that no-one knows the day or hour of His return, & say that means we have no idea whatever of His timing

They ignore that Jesus & the Prophets pinpointed the climax generation to start with the rebirth of Israel, after global scattering

Daniel 7 also prophesied a Revived Roman Empire for this time

How amazing that both Israel & the then-EEC were founded in 1948

A Bible generation is no more than 70 years, & Jesus said that this generation will be cut short by the instant airlift rescue of all who love Jesus, before the worst time on Earth comes - (see Matt 24, etc)

The intensifying & accelerating "birthpains" of all kinds of natural, social & spiritual disasters, that Jesus forecast to bring on that Great Delivery, in Matt 24, are painfully obvious all around us: "all creation groans like a woman in childbirth" - as the Bible also predicts

"What can be shaken will be shaken, so that what can't be shaken will remain"

That "rapture of the saints" will decrease the world population "in the twinkling of an eye" - as fast as you can blink - for all who love the Lord will rise instantly to "meet Him in the air"

Then, per Revelation 6:8, "a quarter of mankind will be killed by war, famine, pestilence & wild beasts"

So that's another 1.25 billion down

Then, per Revelation 9:13/18, a third of the survivors will die in war begun at R Euphrates (Iraq) - so that's another 2 billion down

Total Armageddon is in Joel 3, Zechariah 14, Revelation 16/19 etc

As 2 Peter 3 puts it, this present Earth is reserved for fire

In other words, Earth is a temporary portacabin, scheduled for demolition

Those "Great Tribulation" events are prophesied to take only 7 years

So world population will be zero mighty soon

"Since all things are to be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought we to be?" - 2 Peter 3

Wholly devoted to the Lord is the clear answer there

As Romans 12:1 indicates, the only rational, reasonable response to all the wonderful things that God has done for us - in creation, redemption, provision, guidance, etc - is to give ourselves 100% to His service

If any reader has not yet made a life commitment to the Lord, don't delay that crucial decision

"Now is the acceptable time: behold, now is the day of salvation"

Today, if you hear God's voice, do not harden your heart"

"How shall we escape if we neglect such great salvation?"

No future destiny can be brighter than the last 2 chapters of the Bible - Revelation 21/22

See www.BibleGateway - just type in any of those Bible references

God bless!

Ian
 
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lucid42day said:
I'm not sure that calling the problem 'women' is really going to help us solve it or understand it. This problem of low birth rates in industrialized nations is likely a temporary one, and will probably turn itself around on it's own.
Well, I don't mean to offend women, perhaps saying 'a sizable number of the people who actually get pregnant and have the babies aren't doing that as much anymore' is more polite?
 
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SoupySayles said:
Well, I don't mean to offend women, perhaps saying 'a sizable number of the people who actually get pregnant and have the babies aren't doing that as much anymore' is more polite?

LOL. Well I didn't really direct that at you so much, but it seemed that your phrasing of the problem might lead to an inability to address it. You stated two facets of the problem, and then implied a third: 'Western women are considering careers first,' 'some Western women are not having children at all by choice,' and 'Eastern women are having a lot of children.'

The first two are certainly options available to said women, so I don't think there's much we can do to change it. I suspect the third is something that happens because of a lack to choose the first two.

But is any of this a real problem at all?
 
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That the global population will increase on such scale, is the primary fact.

Exigencies following from such population levels will determine what freedom we have in other regards.

The higher the global population, and the more their being sustained depends on particular technology: then the more that what we do, and can possibly do, is shaped by the ins and outs, the general social disciplines of delivering that technology.

The exigencies in this are so stark, that nothing else can prevail against it, or will be allowed to prevail against it. We tend to do what we need to do to survive, even when we do not admit, or even know that we do.

It is against the backdrop of that prospect, that we must evaluate what we currently do. Sadly, the conclusion we must come to there, is that we are still ethnically driven: where we are more content to proceed with unfounded ethnic conviction; than we are to examine our collective circumstance with clear eye, open mind, and love filled heart.

The indications are that we will not deal well with this increase in population: and that vast numbers are likely to suffer horribly as result.
 
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SoupySayles said:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/08/17/world.population.ap/index.html

The population of developing nations will 8 billion. Russia, Japan, Germany, and Italy will see significant decreases in their population. America will see a steady increase to about 430 million.

The implications are that Russia and Japan are breeding themselves out of existence. Birth rates are lower than death rates, causing decreases in population. The problem is western women are focusing more on careers than having children, more and more women are choosing not to have children at all and thats going to have an impact in the future as many countries experience decreasing or stagnant population. The Muslims may have the last laugh in the 'clash of cultures' , since their populations are expected to rise significantly.

A society with out babies is a selfish one and a doomed one. There is plenty more room on this planet for people. Population pressures have proven a major stimulus to human productivity and technology. We have the oceans and indeed the whole universe to colonise and we are worried about over crowding!

Maybe God allows Islam to be so strong because it encourages population growth whereas the so called Christian West is dying out in cold selfish sanitised bubbles having aborted their children and limited the possibilities of larger families by an obsession with material well being.
 
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mindlight said:
A society with out babies is a selfish one and a doomed one. There is plenty more room on this planet for people. Population pressures have proven a major stimulus to human productivity and technology. We have the oceans and indeed the whole universe to colonise and we are worried about over crowding!

Maybe God allows Islam to be so strong because it encourages population growth whereas the so called Christian West is dying out in cold selfish sanitised bubbles having aborted their children and limited the possibilities of larger families by an obsession with material well being.

Er, it takes a special kind of reasoning to find Christianity as a dying religion, when it is in fact the largest religion in the world:

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
 
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lucid42day said:
I'm not sure that calling the problem 'women' is really going to help us solve it or understand it. This problem of low birth rates in industrialized nations is likely a temporary one, and will probably turn itself around on it's own.
No, women are making those decisions as they refuse to defer to men, husbands, as the Bible requires so they bear the responsiblility.
 
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Paladin for Christ said:
Funny. It says in Revelation that an army of 200 Million will try to destroy the world, and the army will come from the "east". With Eastern populations rising, it's pretty safe to say that we are nearing the end times...
Well if North Korea has it's way, the world will drop 2 billion people (aka China & India).
 
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lucid42day said:
Er, it takes a special kind of reasoning to find Christianity as a dying religion, when it is in fact the largest religion in the world:

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

Not sure I said that unless you say the "Christian West" is the Christian world. Third World Christians now outnumber North American and European ones. Population decline is mainly a feature of European nations and particularly Eastern Bloc ones. The Islamic religion has been growing mainly because of population growth rather than because of conversions - unlike Christianity in China for example or Africa in the last century
 
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