The Body of Christ and The Perfect (Mature) Man

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Galatians 4:19 My little children, for whom I labor in birth again
until Christ is formed in you...

Paul is addressing congregations in Macedonia, Achaia, Corinth,
the region of Galatia, etc...on how to grow into a mature body of Christ,
which does not depend on any individual being "perfect".
This is about a mature relationship among people in fellowship.
1 Corinthians 12:12-31
Paul's letters to congregations teach us a path to Christian maturity among members.
They will not always need the gifts of the spirit mentioned in ch. 12,
but they will always need faith, hope, and above all, love to function.


[G5046] teleios=mature.
1 Corinthians 2:6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature,
yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.

1 Corinthians 14:20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however,
in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature.

Is this not clearly a statement of maturing to adulthood?
1 Corinthians 13:11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child,
I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Paul is teaching the work of the Holy Spirit in perfecting fellowship
among imperfect people. 1 Corinthians 12-14 leads to Ephesians 4:

Ephesians 4:
11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists,
and some pastors and teachers,

12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry,
for the edifying of the body of Christ,
13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God,
to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;
14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about
with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of
deceitful plotting,
15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him
who is the head—Christ—
16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies,
according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes

growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.
 
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Galatians 4:19 My little children, for whom I labor in birth again
until Christ is formed in you...

Paul is addressing congregations in Macedonia, Achaia, Corinth,
the region of Galatia, etc...on how to grow into a mature body of Christ,
which does not depend on any individual being "perfect".
This is about a mature relationship among people in fellowship.
1 Corinthians 12:12-31
Paul's letters to congregations teach us a path to Christian maturity among members.
They will not always need the gifts of the spirit mentioned in ch. 12,
but they will always need faith, hope, and above all, love to function.


[G5046] teleios=mature.
1 Corinthians 2:6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature,
yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.

1 Corinthians 14:20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however,
in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature.

Is this not clearly a statement of maturing to adulthood?
1 Corinthians 13:11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child,
I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Paul is teaching the work of the Holy Spirit in perfecting fellowship
among imperfect people. 1 Corinthians 12-14 leads to Ephesians 4:

Ephesians 4:
11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists,
and some pastors and teachers,

12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry,
for the edifying of the body of Christ,
13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God,
to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;
14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about
with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of
deceitful plotting,
15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him
who is the head—Christ—
16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies,
according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes

growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

Hi MM,

The maturity in Ephesians 4 is addressing the whole Body growing the maturity of truth concerning Christ His character and His purposes.

Individually we are to grow up into Christ His character, divine virtues by the Holy Spirit, and also to seek God`s truth of what the Lord has been revealing to the Body over the centuries.

- Salvation, adult baptism, infilling of the Holy Spirit, the gifts of the Holy Spirit, the 5 ministries of Christ the Head, the eternal purposes.

regards, Marilyn.
 
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The maturity in Ephesians 4 is addressing the whole Body growing the maturity of truth concerning Christ His character and His purposes.
Exactly the point of the thread
Individually we are to grow up into Christ His character, divine virtues by the Holy Spirit, and also to seek God`s truth of what the Lord has been revealing to the Body over the centuries.
Agreed.
regards, Marilyn.
Thank you for the response. Did you read post#1, or just
responding to the title?
Grace and Peace,
James
 
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Exactly the point of the thread

Agreed.

Thank you for the response. Did you read post#1, or just
responding to the title?
Grace and Peace,
James

Hi James,

I did read your OP, and thought it very timely. I just thought I`d clarify the `maturing` individually and as a corporate Body that has had truth revealed over the centuries to believe and stand for.

When adult baptism was again understood many people were even martyred for that. And so on for other great truths that have come down to us today which we can even take for granted. Many have died or been ostracized for such revelation of truth.

regards, Marilyn.
 
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Hi James,

I did read your OP, and thought it very timely. I just thought I`d clarify the `maturing` individually and as a corporate Body that has had truth revealed over the centuries to believe and stand for.

When adult baptism was again understood many people were even martyred for that. And so on for other great truths that have come down to us today which we can even take for granted. Many have died or been ostracized for such revelation of truth.

regards, Marilyn.
Thanks for the clarification Marilyn, and very helpful
responses both.
 
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