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Lets look at a few verses that deal with growing in Grace as = how to effectively "work out your salvation">


1.)""" leaving the first principles"""


The bible is a progressive reveal.

Its God revealing Himself, and its God's showing you how He deals with mankind from beginning to the final revelation.
The Bible reveals this, progressively. Some have classified this as "seasons" or "dispensations", but, its really just the calendar of continuing time, whereby God is showing you what has happened, what is happening right now, and what is to come later, = as the revelation of His dealing with man.
(Foreknowledge)=

And just like you find the beginning of it all , you then find the process of BIBLE revelation changing, and continuing to change.
For example, when Adam and Eve were here, you had no "law of Moses". And after Christ was Crucified, you had a transition from the OT old covenant to the NEW Testament, New Covenant. So, see that CHANGE? That is the progressive revelation that the Bible is showing you.
Currently you are in the "time of the Gentile", and this will end and the Great Tribulation will start and That is the Bible showing you what God is doing next, and next, and next.. That is progressive revelation. = That is the Bible.

The believer is also to change. "from Glory to Glory". From spiritual baby to mature believer.
From babe in Christ, to "The Fullness of the Stature of Christ".....on this Earth.
We are to grow in Grace. We start as spiritual babes in Christ and are to mature to the "fullness of the stature of Christ."
We are to leave the beginning stages, that Paul defines as :

""""Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works""

Now, notice. 1.) "principles of the doctrine of Christ" and 2.) "repentance from dead works"?
This means we are to become grounded, centered, in God's Grace, Hebrews 13:9 ....and from this FAITH foundation, move on to more revelation and deeper Spirituality. But you have to start there, you have to get your FAITH right, or you can't ever move on. And if you have not started there, then you are still in the beginning immature stage of " "repenting from dead works'... This is sinning and confessing. This is the baby stage of Christianity that is not "perfection", which is the mature spiritual stage of discipleship.


2.) """"Dead to the law""""

The Born again, are alive to God, "In Christ" and "dead to the law".
This means that the law, which IS a curse to us, has been resolved by Christ who has "redeemed us from the Curse of THE LAW".
So by being delivered from the "dominion of the law", we are now no longer judged or defined by the Law, which is the "curse".
We now exist here...=."under Grace". This has become our spiritual dominion, We are "dead to the law", or as Paul teachers... "reckon yourselves DEAD"..
See, our old man, our adamic nature our sinful nature, has been "crucified with Christ" and we are risen with Christ in "newness of Life".
This "newness" is our "new Creation" "in Christ" born again spirit.... that is who we have become, by being BORN AGAIN.
We are now become "ONE WITH GOD< IN Christ".
This is now who we are...and never again are we to think of ourselves as a "sinner".
We are now become...."as Christ IS, so are the born again, IN THIS WORLD". This is why God tells you to "be in the world but not of it".... And this reveals how you are to always understand who you have become,= as the "new birth", a Child of the Light, BORN AGAIN.


3.) Harlot

IN Luke 7, you find the core principle of God's Grace which is defined by a Harlot's NEW behavior, who came to Jesus and poured out her utter thankfulness on the Savior, in public.
The principle here is...."to whom much is forgiven".
So, let me show you how this works....
There is a Satanic lie that has deceived many believers which exists as the idea that ..if you understand and believe (Blood Atonement)= that all your sin is always forgiven, then you will live like the devil.
The theologically deceived always teach this as "License to sin" so that you are deceived AWAY FROM the correct understanding of being "made righteous".
And that is the devil's lie. And He created this lie and perpetuates this lie using people to teach this lie from Pulpits, on TV, in Commentaries, and on Forums.
And if you believe it, you will never have the revelation of God's Grace that is your power, your rest, and your total deliverance that leads to your "perfection".
"As many as be perfect"....Paul teaches.
See....
Satan wants to keep you away from this, so that you exist as working, striving, and failing, to try to achieve by self effort what God only provides as the "GIFT of salvation". and "The Gift of Righteousness"
Satan will have you waste your life as a believer, trying to stay reconciled to God, instead of understanding that Christ's sacrifice, Christ's Blood and Death, has become your eternal reconciliation to God.
See Jesus's death, this sacrifice is the "ETERNAL Redemption"... its not part time, or conditional, or based on your behavior.

Now notice the former Harlot in Luke 7.

Jesus said she was forgiven much. And do you see her reaction? This is a former harlot.... A devout sinner, judged to be so by THE LAW and COMMANDMENTS. However, Jesus has not judged her. He has only accepted her and loved her and her reaction to God's GRACE, is to fall at the God-Mans's feet and cry tears on his feet and dry them with her hair.
Now, see that REACTION to GOD's GRACE?
That is the same reaction found in the heart of a true believer who understands that Salvation is a GIFT that can never be lost and will never be taken away.
Saint : Eternal LIFE is not TEMPORARY <!
See.... Her reaction to God's Grace, = is the pure reaction of every heart and mind and life that understands the Amazing Grace of God, that you too will find when you completely understand and come to believe that God always keeps you saved, no matter what.... based on the BLOOD OF GOD, (The Cross) only.

This is the wonder of the effect of Grace as it empowers you to live HOLY.
This is the fact that "the goodness of God, leads you to repentance". Its a fact reader, that when you renew your mind into the real faith that is only found when you leave your self effort to try to be accepted by God, and continually REST in the truth that is the power of God's Grace, that you then find your discipleship as this...= "Christ always gives me the Victory"., and "I can do all things Through Christ".
See, when you come to truly believe that God will always keep you saved with Christ's blood, then you are entering the TRUE revelation knowledge that will set you free from self righteousness that is the cause of sinning and confessing.

Philippians 1:6

The truth is, the more you believe that you have to work (keep law and commandments) and strive to please God, the more you will sin and confess and repeat. Whereas, the more you come to understand the depth's of God's COMPLETED forgiveness for you as The Cross of Christ, the more power you find as this :
= '"Christ always gives me the Victory".

4.) The Effect of the knowledge of Grace : Deliverance & Holy Living

The end result that comes only from knowing and understanding and resting in God's Grace, is that you are arming yourself with the Power of Christ, which is God's Grace.
To truly understand God's Grace, is the "helmet of salvation".... being put on.
Christ said "apart from me, you can do nothing"... and that means, all your self effort to be a "good christian" will fail.
The reason? = Its because Real Christianity is not based on you trying to be good, but rather it is ONLY based on God's goodness existing in you as "Christ in you the hope of Glory"< as who you are become as "the righteousness of God, in Christ".

Here is the thing... A born again person, STARTS, as...>"Made Righteous".
See that?
The born again are not to try to become righteous, as we are already made by NEW BIRTH< to be Righteous, as "the righteousness of God, in Christ".
We START as "the righteousness of God, in Christ".... As That is who we are made to be, as the "new Creation" from the very instant we are born again.
Most believers are trying to get there, by self effort, and that is to be Faith failed as : "apart from me you can do nothing"...Jesus tells us.
See......Trying to stay saved or become righteous, is to "Fall From Grace".
So, the knowledge of Righteousness is..>> 1.) to come to understand who you are become "in Christ", by being Born Again, and live in this mind of real Faith.
This means you rest in the knowledge of the Truth that you are "made righteousness" already, and kept righteous by the BLOOD OF GOD for eternity.......as that REAL FAITH= is how you find your power, victory, and deliverance over the world, the flesh, and the devil.
Its all found by resting completely in God's Grace as your REAL FAITH.
 

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What does this have to do with real faith? . But can I ask where do you get this from "There is a Satanic lie that has deceived many believers which exists as the idea that ..if you understand and believe (Blood Atonement)= that all your sin is always forgiven, then you will live like the devil.
The theologically deceived always teach this as "License to sin" so that you are deceived AWAY FROM the correct understanding of being "made righteous".

I don't know one that teaches this "then you will live like the devil". There's a "Grace preacher" Now that is not the name they use nor anyone in that huge Church. Its what "believers/Christians" gave them. So one day I watched him and I don't watch him. He did not look happy but sad..that right there do we care? See the fact he had to explain something thousands there know but oddly others for some odd reason can't see. No they never have a free right to sin. Yes you have to repent.. on and on. But if I said his name...what I just said would never come into your mind. We just don't try to find the as the lord once said about a preacher many disagree with (nice way of saying it). He said "ooh but do you know all the good he does for me). That got me...do I look for the good in them as He does me ever moment of my life? He does not ever judge me or condemn me when I fall.. so how can I do to so easily to others that are not my KIDS.

Grace.. He once asked me as I was about to give up on all of this because of all the sin I see every day in my life. He asked me "what is righteousness?" I said "ok ok righteousness is right standing with God". How do you get righteousness?" "by believing in Jesus". Right after that I could not stop crying.

I saved this old video of a Muslim man born in Iran and.. was part of all that.. well not good stuff. His story is so moving. Not part of this western world we live in. He got caught for something and was in prison in some other country where he was teaching about ALLAH. He read the Quran all the way through ever like 3 days. Something supernatural happened that he could not explained something about "I am Jesus". See he knew GOD would never show himself to anyone. So he fasted for 2 weeks to hear from ALLAH about this but nothing. This this light came into his cell and he didn't know why but he had great fear and keep saying "forgive me forgive me forgive me". He said that light (Like a man) came over touched his shoulder said "I forigve you". He said all that fare vanished and he fell that that lights feet. He asked "who are you?" The light said back "I am the way the truth and the life". The Muslim man said ..it sounded as if it really meant something so he said "that means nothing to me" The light said I am Jesus. This was over 12 years ago and I have seen him since talk about this story again.

The part I oh love is hes at His feet when He says I am JESUS..that part the man just breaks down crying can't talk.. every time. The man said as he was looking up he saw this like window and something showing. He said it was people from all over the world and he saw how sinful they were. Jesus said "how easy was it for me to forgive you? The man said where he was from its as easy as drinking water..no easier. Jesus said as easy as it was for me to forgive you...I will forgive them but who will tell them. After this was over he said he asked Jesus for bible. The very next day before he talked to anyone someone came by said "I am to give this to you". It was a bible.

Christ cannot die again. There is no more sacrifice for that sin. Do we really believer ever believer that has died confessed every sin they did after they were saved? NO we have no right to sin but He already died for ever sin we would ever do. So like your kids if you have them they can hurt you but you love them and that "sin" can effect your relationship but not the love and the fact they will always be your kids. Now there are kids out side your house you don't know. I have never in 62 years ever thought I can now sin all I want.. I know about this grace.. and the FREEDOM it gives me...but it has never once not even a thought to freely sin. So we need to think about words like "MOST" "SOME" "FEW". I have never been to all the Churches in my own city. I can't tell you about all the people just blocks from my house. So for me to say if I do MOST OR SOME.. its a lie..

Faith...something that is not taught here or any Christian forum I am on. Nor prayer.. these two should be NUMBER ONE ALWAYS up front.. and then all the prayers that get answered.. and all the great stories from other believers.. this helps..yet its debating .. news.. so many that don't even believe in Jesus.. read those ...any believer reminding that nonbeliever JESUS DIED FOR YOU! I try to some how put it in there.. I would want someone to NEVER give up on me.. so sorry if I offend.. I am awful with words..I pray I didn't step on what you were so beautiful saying
 
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The theologically deceived always teach this as "License to sin" so that you are deceived AWAY FROM the correct understanding of being "made righteous".

"made righteous".

The deceived believe they do this for themselves, by water, works, enduring, etc.

Notice ..

= "MADE, righteous'..... so that is not of yourself. Its the "Gift of Righteousness".
 
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