President Biden and Democrats have a plan for American energy: make it harder to produce and more expensive to purchase

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The fuel prices arguments are not silly to everyone who is paying for the higher costs of fuel which is also a significant influence in overall inflation.
Maybe if Putin didn’t invade Ukraine (again) and the situation in/around Israel weren’t so chaotic we’d see cheaper gasoline prices, because that’s all we seem to be concerned about.
Our post-pandemic inflation wasn’t as bad as in other nations‘ inflation, does Joe get credit for that?
No, just complaints.
 
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...the higher costs of fuel which is also a significant influence in overall inflation.
At least you realise that the 'significant influence' you mention isn't controlled by whomever is in the WH. Your point actually is reducing the blame apportioned to the current administration for a large chunk of the inflation figures. Saves me making it, I guess.
 
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The fuel prices arguments are not silly to everyone who is paying for the higher costs of fuel which is also a significant influence in overall inflation.
Your arguments are silly, because while furl prices can be a driver of inflation, they’re not significantly influenced by White House policy.

Also, fuel prices right now are the same as they were in May 2015.

 
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The Biden Administration might be making it “more difficult” to extract petroleum and natural gas but we are producing more of both than ever before so his “war on oil” is a disastrous failure.
Doing something I don't like is a reason not to vote for him. As is failing to do so. Obviously.
 
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The fuel prices arguments are not silly to everyone who is paying for the higher costs of fuel which is also a significant influence in overall inflation.
Of course they are silly when you look at spot prices for a short time like a month. It's bad data analysis. From the headline alone, Democrats could have argued (in a silly fashion) in Aug 2021 -- "Remember when gas prices were higher under Trump in Summer 2018?" and it would be just as true.
 
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Of course they are silly when you look at spot prices for a short time like a month. It's bad data analysis. From the headline alone, Democrats could have argued (in a silly fashion) in Aug 2021 -- "Remember when gas prices were higher under Trump in Summer 2018?" and it would be just as true.
The facts are not silly when you look at the trends which apparently you have chosen to NOT do.
 
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Can you actually with real facts dispute any of the facts in the op article? Or, are you just going to attack the source of the message?

From the list:
2. President Biden restricted domestic production by issuing a moratorium on all oil and natural gas leasing activities in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

I support that.

Do you?
 
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The facts are not silly when you look at the trends which apparently you have chosen to NOT do.
Two data points do not constitute a trend. Did you not learn that in school?
 
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Yeah, my electric bill went up by a lot in WI, partially due to the Russia-Ukraine crisis, and the quick transition to renewables. For the Californians though, we can blame most of the rise of the electric bill to Gavin Newsom and 5 members of the California Public Utilities Commission. Glad I do not live in California. Beautiful state t
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The facts are not silly when you look at the trends which apparently you have chosen to NOT do.

What trends? You haven't talked about any trends. Heck, I'm the one who posted a link to the last 10 years of gas prices. Here's another link, this one goes back 30 years:

What trends do you see?

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Your understanding of economics and inflation is grossly flawed.
Please tell us about the things affecting gas prices. I haven't heard you talk about OPEC, or Russia, or changes in the number of American firms pumping wells, or technological developments making certain deposits more accessible. Why are you holding out on us?
 
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The facts are not silly when you look at the trends which apparently you have chosen to NOT do.
Do you TRULY think that the tanking of gas prices during COVID had even a SINGLE thing to do with any decision Trump made during his presidency?

And if so, which one(s)?
 
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What trends? You haven't talked about any trends. Heck, I'm the one who posted a link to the last 10 years of gas prices. Here's another link, this one goes back 30 years:

What trends do you see?

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Please tell us about the things affecting gas prices. I haven't heard you talk about OPEC, or Russia, or changes in the number of American firms pumping wells, or technological developments making certain deposits more accessible. Why are you holding out on us?
Your own photo graphics there shows a trend of gasoline prices generally increasing faster than the inflation index when Bush, Obama, and Biden were president. Granted, this cannot only be factually blamed only on presidential administration policies. However, there is also no doubt that by looking at the general trends of gasoline (oil barrel) prices that government policies do indeed make a significant impact upon those prices.
 
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Do you TRULY think that the tanking of gas prices during COVID had even a SINGLE thing to do with any decision Trump made during his presidency?

And if so, which one(s)?
One of the reasons for the tanking of gasoline prices occurred because there was a glut of supply over demand in 2020. Why did that happen? Because many states had severe Covid lockdowns and restrictions.
 
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One of the reasons for the tanking of gasoline prices occurred because there was a glut of supply over demand in 2020. Why did that happen? Because many states had severe Covid lockdowns and restrictions.
And then President Trump went to OPEC and asked if they would cut production for two years. They did.
 
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Your own photo graphics there shows a trend of gasoline prices generally increasing faster than the inflation index when Bush, Obama, and Biden were president.

Rising gas prices also outpaced inflation for most of the Trump administration. It grew for roughly the first 16 months, plateaued for another 4, dipped and then rebounded over the next 6. It wasn’t until late 2019 that it had fallen enough to track with inflation.

Granted, this cannot only be factually blamed only on presidential administration policies. However, there is also no doubt that by looking at the general trends of gasoline (oil barrel) prices that government policies do indeed make a significant impact upon those prices.
What policies?
 
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Rising gas prices also outpaced inflation for most of the Trump administration. It grew for roughly the first 16 months, plateaued for another 4, dipped and then rebounded over the next 6. It wasn’t until late 2019 that it had fallen enough to track with inflation.


What policies?
“Read the OP”
”Third base”
 
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I'm not going to keep on repeating myself about Biden's policies and Executive Orders, Executive actions that he did regarding oil and energy. If you don't know what his administration has done, even after that has been shown, then repeating myself is a waste of my time.
 
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Rising gas prices also outpaced inflation for most of the Trump administration. It grew for roughly the first 16 months, plateaued for another 4, dipped and then rebounded over the next 6. It wasn’t until late 2019 that it had fallen enough to track with inflation.

Oil and gasoline prices rose when American oil corporations were producing more product to meet the demand for more oil and gasoline from European and also American businesses and consumers. The supply was having trouble keeping up with demand.
 
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