Nothing new under the sun... at least against evolution.

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I know, but this thread isn't about AV's personal beliefs in the Bible.

Do I need to get a moderator to do a cleanup, after only 4 pages?!
Slow your roll there. I meant nothing by it. Just a question about the "prime directive". Lighten up a bit.
 
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Matthew 27:42b If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.

Uh huh ... right.

John 12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.


Circularity

Q. Why do you believe the Bible?
A. Because it's true

Q. Why do you believe its true?
A. Because its the Bible

OB​
 
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I believe that if Jesus came back today and went into a hospital and healed every single one of the patients, academia would call for his head to roll.

Fine strawman argument there.

Especially the medical staff, who depends on those patients for their next paycheck.

I didn't realize doctors were such horrible money-grubbing vermin.

If Jesus came back today, what should He do differently to convince academia that He is God?

A few miracles might help. Maybe expressing information that we don't have but could verify? You know, he's God, so he would presumably know how to square quantum mechanics with general relativity (as just one tiny example) which could be verified.

I don't know specifically but given that He's God incarnate I'm guessing He could come up with some incontrovertible evidence.
 
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You want a good answer?

How about you go on vacation for a month, then come home and find squatters took over your house and refuse to leave?

One of your family members goes in there to ask them to vacate, and they blow him off the front porch with a double-barrel shotgun and splatter him all over the front yard?

I know that's a little flamboyant, but hopefully you get the point.

They had 430 years advanced warning to vacate the Promised Land,* and refused.

* Not a popular academic term.

Even if I did come home to find squatters living in my house I doubt very highly I could so much as kick the toddlers let alone kill them. I would end up like Saul and God would turn from me I guess.
 
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I am an atheist and I use the word "soul" all the time. Am I disallowed any sort of literary flourish to my language? As an atheist am I only supposed to speak in non-allegory mathematical notation?

Do you also use "fetus," instead of "child in the womb"?
 
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Circularity

Q. Why do you believe the Bible?
A. Because it's true

Q. Why do you believe its true?
A, Because its the Bible

OB​

Then tell me what you would think if you were back there then and saw all the things Jesus did?
 
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A few miracles might help.

Uh huh.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

Notice what the world does after Jesus spends one thousand years here ruling and reigning:

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 
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Even if I did come home to find squatters living in my house I doubt very highly I could so much as kick the toddlers let alone kill them.

Toddlers aren't toddlers very long.

And when they grow up and find out what happened to their parents and families, you'd better hope your security fence works.

It's called "revenge."
 
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HOW TO BECOME AN EVOLUTIONIST INSTANTLY:
  1. Blink a universe into existence as a primeval atom.
  2. Watch it grow.
No, this is how to become a cosmologist instantly. Evolutionists deal with biology, not with the origin of the universe.
 
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The Antichrist is going to bring the theory of evolution to a climax during the Tribulation period by bringing an image to life as a demonstration.

People will then line up to take the Mark in honor of this superscientist.
I shall believe this when I see it. Anyway, so far as I understand it, this isn't how evolution works.
 
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No matter what will be said, you will not believe anyway. Because most people don't want to believe. People don't want their sinful life come to light, people don't want to follow God and leave their sins behind, because people love darkness.

I will pray for you nonetheless.
I love darkness because I want to be able to see the stars rather than street-lights and security lights.
 
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You want a good answer?

How about you go on vacation for a month, then come home and find squatters took over your house and refuse to leave?

One of your family members goes in there to ask them to vacate, and they blow him off the front porch with a double-barrel shotgun and splatter him all over the front yard?

I know that's a little flamboyant, but hopefully you get the point.

They had 430 years advanced warning to vacate the Promised Land,* and refused.

* Not a popular academic term.

Is this a creationist argument or did you get lost from the Hamas War thread?
 
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Which version of the Bible does Jesus say that? I'm genuinely curious.

King James, Old Testament

Ecclesiastes 3:3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
 
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No, because it's not about the actual subject matter of the thread.

Well, as you said, there's "nothing new."

So what do you want us to talk about?

You want the recipe for Bara Lawr?
 
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Well, as you said, there's "nothing new."

So what do you want us to talk about?

You want the recipe for Bara Lawr?

AV, go back and reread the very first post of this thread.

If you read it and go "But what does he mean by that?" then don't bother responding to this thread any more, because I made it as clear as I could in the OP.
 
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