My Theory Challenge Poll

[AV1611VET]

Have all [and are all] scientific theories been valid ones?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Have all [and are all] scientific theories been valid ones?

I imagine that you want a yes or no answer for this, but sadly, that's not going to be the case.

Essentially, to cut a long story short, the historical theories were valid for their time periods based on what people knew at the time, but since our knowledge base has expanded since then, it's been shown that they were wrong.

TL;DR Historical ones would be valid for their time period until it was shown ultimately they were wrong.

 

[AV1611VET]

I imagine that you want a yes or no answer for this, but sadly, that's not going to be the case.

Essentially, to cut a long story short, the historical theories were valid for their time periods based on what people knew at the time, but since our knowledge base has expanded since then, it's been shown that they were wrong.

TL;DR Historical ones would be valid for their time period until it was shown ultimately they were wrong.

Sounds to me like you're saying YES.

After all, I asked if they were valid at one time.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Sounds to me like you're saying YES.

After all, I asked if they were valid at one time.

It's 'Yes' with a proviso.

And the challenge part is...?

 

[AV1611VET]

It's 'Yes' with a proviso.

And the challenge part is...?

Getting an honest answer without someone trying to water it down with provisos.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Getting an honest answer without someone trying to water it down with provisos.

Life often times isn't that straight forward for a simple yes or no answer, especially when we talk about anything historical. At your age, you should know this by now.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Your "challenge" fails on its face and you know this because you've been told in many, many threads in one way or another that all scientific knowledge is provisional. If someone wishes to disprove a theory all they need to do is present evidence that does so and allow others to confirm it.

 

[AV1611VET]

Your "challenge" fails on its face and you know this because you've been told in many, many threads in one way or another that all scientific knowledge is provisional.

This thread is a poll about the validity of scientific theories past and present.

I hear a lot about "valid theories."

But I don't see one single vote as yet.

That speaks volumes.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

This thread is a poll about the validity of scientific theories past and present.

I hear a lot about "valid theories."

But I don't see one single vote as yet.

That speaks volumes.

It speaks to the failure of your challenge. It's not the theories that are "invalid". it's your poll. It's not a Yes/No question. It never has been. You've been told this numerous times. You're just being disingenuous.

 

[AV1611VET]

It speaks to the failure of your challenge. It's not the theories that are "invalid". it's your poll. It's not a Yes/No question. It never has been. You've been told this numerous times. You're just being disingenuous.

Is the theory of evolution a valid theory?

Was Phlogiston theory a valid theory at one time?

If you answer YES to both, you may want to go vote.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Is the theory of evolution a valid theory?

Was Phlogiston theory a valid theory at one time?

If you answer YES to both, you may want to go vote.

I refuse to participate in your invalid poll. I'll comment all day long about how it's invalid.

 

[BCP1928]

Have all [and are all] scientific theories been valid ones?

Define "valid theory."

 

[AV1611VET]

Define "valid theory."

One that you'll accept.

 

[SelfSim]

Is the theory of evolution a valid theory?

Was Phlogiston theory a valid theory at one time?

If you answer YES to both, you may want to go vote.

Both were/are useful contributions to scientific thinking (and objective knowledge) .. especially by clarfying stark distinctions between nonsense beliefs and systematic objective thinking.

I choose to not vote, as your surveys are distinguished by their inate abilities to propagate utter nonsense.

 

[rambot]

Have all [and are all] scientific theories been valid ones?

There are so many terms here you'd need to define.

But most importantly, you need to make sure you are using the word "scientific theories" and not "hypothesis" if you mean the latter.

So, are you referring to the scientific version of a "theory"?

 

[rambot]

Getting an honest answer without someone trying to water it down with provisos.

Why do you need provisos gone? Do you require binary to be able to understand an answer? Does it get to complicated when nuance and detail are entered into the picture? Because I really wanna tell you that if that's the case, science is definitely not an area you should maintain an interest in because you require some very basic skills

 

[AV1611VET]

Both were/are useful contributions to scientific thinking (and objective knowledge) ..

I notice you're falling short of calling them what they used to be called ("theories").

So I'll ask:

Both what?

Both theory of evolution and Phlogiston theory?

 

[AV1611VET]

There are so many terms here you'd need to define.

I assume all terminology etc was taken care of before the label "theory" went on.

But most importantly, you need to make sure you are using the word "scientific theories" and not "hypothesis" if you mean the latter.

I'm not going to post a list of every single theory throughout history from Atomic Theory to the Weak Ties Theory.

So, are you referring to the scientific version of a "theory"?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why do you need provisos gone? Do you require binary to be able to understand an answer? Does it get to complicated when nuance and detail are entered into the picture? Because I really wanna tell you that if that's the case, science is definitely not an area you should maintain an interest in because you require some very basic skills

I'm getting the impression some people aren't too proud of their documentation.

I'm sure most (if not all) of these theories were, at one time, all over the newspapers, science magazines, and whatnot.

Some are even behind paywalls.

Others made headlines because their "fathers" got Nobel prizes and etc.

Now, all of a sudden, when I ask about them, I'm getting provisos, requests for definitions, and other such junk.

What are you guys hiding?

 

[Yttrium]

I'll say yes, because in order to be considered a scientific theory it has to fit the known evidence and survive rigorous testing and peer review. The underlying hypothesis has to be scientifically valid.