It takes two to tango

[Robban]

To concieve.

We have a father and mother who are co-creators,

and God who gives Life.

But there are clearly other types of conception.

Here is an example from the Ampllified Bible;
James 1:13-15,
Let no one say when he is tempted.
I am tempted from God;
for God is incapable of being tempted by
(what is) evil and He Himself tempts no one.

But every person is tempted when he is drawn away,
enticed and baited by his own evil desire (lust,passions)

Then the evil desire, when it has concieved, gives birth to sin,
when it is fully matured, brings forth death.


tthat was two examples.

Can God concieve a son?

How and in what form?

He Himself has no shape or form.

 

[thecolorsblend]

With respect, your entire post is a bit incomprehensible as you shift from matters related to conception to temptation to the Incarnation. I have no idea what you're trying to ask.

 

[Robban]

With respect, your entire post is a bit incomprehensible as you shift from matters related to conception to temptation to the Incarnation. I have no idea what you're trying to ask.

If you have not been following this particular sub-forum,
it may seem so.

 

[thecolorsblend]

If you have not been following this particular sub-forum,
it may seem so.

Notwithstanding, can you clarify on your question please?

 

[brinny]

To concieve.

We have a father and mother who are co-creators,

and God who gives Life.

But there are clearly other types of conception.

Here is an example from the Ampllified Bible;
James 1:13-15,
Let no one say when he is tempted.
I am tempted from God;
for God is incapable of being tempted by
(what is) evil and He Himself tempts no one.

But every person is tempted when he is drawn away,
enticed and baited by his own evil desire (lust,passions)

Then the evil desire, when it has concieved, gives birth to sin,
when it is fully matured, brings forth death.


tthat was two examples.

Can God concieve a son?

How and in what form?

He Himself has no shape or form.

In the beginning, God walked with Adam in a garden in the cool of the day.

Are you saying that it would be impossible for the living God, the Creator, to take the form of a body?

In addition, in the beginning of your post, you mentioned this:

We have a father and mother who are co-creators,

Are you speaking of a "human" mother and father?

Can you explain "co-creators"?

 

[Robban]

In the beginning, God walked with Adam in a garden in the cool of the day.

Are you saying that it would be impossible for the living God, the Creator, to take the form of a body?

In addition, in the beginning of your post, you mentioned this:



Are you speaking of a "human" mother and father?

Can you explain "co-creators"?

At Sinai you saw no shape or form, you heard a voice,

Of course I mean human mother and father, who else?

 

[Robban]

Notwithstanding, can you clarify on your question please?

It is based God has a son, it is pretty unclear what is meant .

 

[brinny]

At Sinai you saw no shape or form, you heard a voice,

Of course I mean human mother and father, who else?

Yet there is written in the very beginning that God walked with Adam in a garden in the cool of the day.

Regarding a human mother and father, what do you mean by "co-creators"?

 

[Robban]

Yet there is written in the very beginning that God walked with Adam in a garden in the cool of the day.

Regarding a human mother and father, what do you mean by "co-creators"?

"Go out and multiply"
We are invited to partner with Him.

Why is so great importance put on,
"Honour your father and mother"?

 

[brinny]

"Go out and multiply"
We are invited to partner with Him.

Why is so great importance put on,
"Honour your father and mother"?

There is One Creator.

That is the living God, Almighty God, El Elyon, Creator.

 

[Sheep4Christ]

Scripture teaches us that the holy spirit overshadowed Mary and this life giving force fertilized her human eggs in such a way that is still awesome to me today.I don't know if this has anything to do with the point of this thread (scratching my head).

 

[Robban]

There is One Creator.

That is the living God, Almighty God, El Elyon, Creator.

Yes there is only one.

Even so, how did you come into this World?

 

[Robban]

Scripture teaches us that the holy spirit overshadowed Mary and this life giving force fertilized her human eggs in such a way that is still awesome to me today.I don't know if this has anything to do with the point of this thread (scratching my head).

It is told Sarah gave birth at 90 too.
What my muslim friend habibii zarha and myself are wondering over is most likely, "God's begotten son."

 

[Sheep4Christ]

Yes there is only one.

Even so, how did you come into this World?

Well I can't speak for Brinny but my mom swears she gave birth to me.Meanwhile my Dad just walked away shaking his head.

 

[Sheep4Christ]

It is told Sarah gave birth at 90 too.
What my muslim friend habibii zarha and myself are wondering over is most likely, "God's begotten son."

I'm sure that God's begotten son is Jesus.

 

[brinny]

Yes there is only one.

Even so, how did you come into this World?

By God's Providence and inexplicable grace.

 

[Robban]

I'm sure that God's begotten son is Jesus.

Maybe, I don't know,
But this I have to go on,
Psalms 2:6-7;

"It is I Who have anointed My king, upon Zion,
My holy mountain."

I am obliged to declare,
the Lord said to me,
"You are My son, I have this day begotten you."

(The day David was crowned)
(Rashi)

 

[Philip_B]

One of the ECF, Origen perhaps, spoke of man created from dust ADAM woman created out of man EVE men and women created out of men an women US and man created out of woman CHRIST THE NEW ADAM. For some reason I have always found this helpful. I am away from usual resources so can not be 100% sure it was Origen as it may be Ignatius or Clement.

 

[redleghunter]

It is told Sarah gave birth at 90 too.
What my muslim friend habibii zarha and myself are wondering over is most likely, "God's begotten son."

Is your inquiry related to "what is the nature of Jesus of Nazareth?"

First one must understand the Son of God existed with the Father in eternity.

John 1 makes this very clear.

Isaiah 44 and Daniel 7 compared to Revelation 1 is a good start to view attributes and compare.

 

[Robban]

One of the ECF, Origen perhaps, spoke of man created from dust ADAM woman created out of man EVE men and women created out of men an women US and man created out of woman CHRIST THE NEW ADAM. For some reason I have always found this helpful. I am away from usual resources so can not be 100% sure it was Origen as it may be Ignatius or Clement.

Thanks.
Read some years ago that Origen became very popular,
but when he went into the deeper things such as, the soul existing both before and after the body,
he was declared a heretic and lost popularity.

Which was unfortunate.