Hooray for President Hilabamruckabiani!

[xapis]

In the presidential race, it would have to be the way in which each candidate's policies will affect the future for my children.

Mega-dittoes.

 

[xapis]

In other words, he defines it as an all-encompassing negative term much like many of the anti-Bush knee-jerk liberals?

Yes... but not entirely. You see... those libs don't have a problem at all with the big government, nationalist, and collectivist pieces to the puzzle. Those policies fit right in with their brand of socialism. The only reason the militarism part doesn't fit for them now is because it's unpopular. Instead, they've taken up the "enviromentalist" banner.

Now who has more in common with them? Ron Paul or George W. Bush? Seriously...

 

[NeTrips]

Now who has more in common with them? Ron Paul or George W. Bush? Seriously...

I've never heard Pres Bush define neoCon.

But if he directed me to a website rather than answer the question directly, THAT would be a big negative!

 

[xapis]

But if he directed me to a website rather than answer the question directly, THAT would be a big negative!

Did I fail to answer a question you asked me directly?

I've never heard Pres Bush define neoCon.

...and do you call this a direct answer to my question?

 

[NeTrips]

Did I fail to answer a question you asked me directly?



...and do you call this a direct answer to my question?

my bad. not enough smilies. both responses were not serious ones.

What was the ? again?

 

[xapis]

Posts 17 and 18 clarified Ron Paul's definition of "neocon," an issue you pursued with a previous poster in the thread. You equated that to the definition of the same term by "knee-jerk liberals" and in post 22, I analyzed your response and asked who is actually closer to those liberals, Ron Paul or George W. Bush. I guess that's the only open question I have.

 

[NeTrips]

Posts 17 and 18 clarified Ron Paul's definition of "neocon," an issue you pursued with a previous poster in the thread. You equated that to the definition of the same term by "knee-jerk liberals" and in post 22, I analyzed your response and asked who is actually closer to those liberals, Ron Paul or George W. Bush. I guess that's the only open question I have.

big government, nationalist, militarist, collectivist "conservatives." They like fearmongering (whether warranted or unwarranted) to give more power and control to the federal government and using issues like gay marriage and abortion to get votes.

Obviously, Pres Bush is more in line with the definition given in #17 (or was it 18) than RP, but so would have been Reagan, Clinton, Carter, and Ted Kennedy. But in no way does it make them neocons....

 

[xapis]

Exactly. That's the point. They're all the same... but I would exclude Reagan from that list.

How do you define "neocon" and could you give a couple examples of people you consider to be "neocons?"

 

[Fineous_Reese]

i define "neocon" as "a disparaging label applied to conservatives that indy/libs don't like because they're too likely to gain power"

 

[NeTrips]

Exactly. That's the point. They're all the same... but I would exclude Reagan from that list.

How do you define "neocon" and could you give a couple examples of people you consider to be "neocons?"

I like Fins definition above as that it defines the most common usage, not necesarily the most accurate usage, just one of the more common usages.

I equate neocons with paleo-liberals.