Current RCC does not contradict earlier RCC teaching.
yeah it does.
Every Orthodox source I checked said the Orthodox Church believes in purgatory. If you want to claim otherwise, I need to see some evidence because I haven't seen any yet.
uh huh, well I seeing as how are saints have consistently rejected it as heresy, as have our hymns, I am gonna say that you are not looking at legit Orthodox sites.
read Metropolitan Heirotheos Vlachos' Life After Dead, Fr Seraphim Rose's the Soul After Death, Eternal Mysteries Beyond the Grave by Archimandrite Panteleimon, and St Mark of Ephesus' homilies against the Purgatorial fire. and that is just the tip of the iceberg.
I read all your posts. You didn't quote anything from Trent that mentioned it. The quote you posted from Trent says the same thing the current catechism teaches which shows the teaching hasn't changed.
"Among them is also the
fire of purgatory, in which the souls of just men are cleansed by a temporary punishment, in order to be admitted into their eternal country, into which nothing defiled entereth."
Catechism of Council of Trent
"Prayers for the dead, that they may be
liberated from the fire of purgatory, are derived from Apostolic teaching"
Catechism of Council of Trent, Prayer
"We also beg of God that we be not cut off by a sudden death; that we provoke not His anger against us; that we be not condemned to suffer the punishments reserved for the wicked; that we be not sentenced to
endure the fire of purgatory, from which we piously and devoutly implore that others may be liberated."
Catechism of Council of Trent, The Lord's Prayer, Seventh Petition
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I'm not defending anything. I simply explained the clear teaching of the RCC regarding infallibility which you can easily learn by reading how RC councils defined it. I even said I'd prefer you'd read it for yourself instead of relying on what I say. If you refuse to learn what the RCC teaches or choose to pretend the RCC teaches something else because you feel the need to justify your separation from the RCC to ease your conscience then I can't help you.
yeah, I know you said that, but any evidence to the contrary you just chalk off as not being infallible. I can read, and have read, the source material, and when speaking to RC friends, none of them have been as pick and choose concerning infallibility as you have. I don't agree with what you have said the RC teaches. and I am fine being apart from Rome. it was Pope Francis who said he longs for communion with us, to which we say the chrism awaits.
I rely on the official councils where RCC teaching is formulated and the catechisms that summarize RC teaching.
you mean like Trent's catechism?
I have not made any conclusions nor have I been selective. If I quoted an Orthodox theologian's opinion and assumed it was Orthodox teaching and wanted you to believe it was Orthodox teaching, would you accept it was Orthodox teaching if I was unable to provide any evidence the Orthodox Church ever taught his opinion?
of course not, and that is not what is going on here. stuff from their councils, their saints, their theologians attest to a literal fire. we are not merely speaking about an opinion.
You refused to listen to what I already wrote so I'm not going to waste more time posting something else I know you won't accept. You've made up your mind and no amount of evidence will ever convince you to reconsider it.
of course I am not going to listen, unless you actually show something of substance (like Trent). all you have given is your opinion, not being RC, on what Rome teaches, and have given no reason why I should accept your position over those of their own tradition.
Can you show me where the RCC teaches that all of its saints visions are RC teaching? If an Orthodox saint has a vision, is everything in that vision considered Orthodox teaching that you are required to believe?
well, you have yet to show anything that contradicts those visions, and this is supported by their councils (see above) and their art. if an Orthodox saint has a vision, it would be checked to see if it falls in line with the teaching. the visions of a literal purgatorial fire do fall in line with the Roman tradition.