Alternative History: Map of Europe Without Germany

Which neighbour then should be given the biggest part - or may be all of Germany?

  • France

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  • Luxembourg

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  • Belgium

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  • Netherlands

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  • Denmark

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  • Poland

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  • Austria

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  • Switzerland

    Votes: 1 50.0%
  • Liechtenstein - even if Liechtenstein is not a direct neighbour 1 vote(s) 100.0% *

    Votes: 1 50.0%
  • some other country

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Alternative History: Map of Europe Without Germany

During most of the first half of the 20th century, Germany was seen by much of the rest of the world as a rogue state in the heart of Europe, its incorrigible belligerence a problem not only to be defeated but also to be eradicated – somehow. Inevitably, some on the lunatic fringe called for wiping Germany off the map — literally.


In that case: Which neighbour then should be given the biggest part - or may be all of Germany?

In that case: Which neighbour then should be given the biggest part - or may be all of Germany?
 

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Dutch plans:

In its most ambitious form, this plan included the cities of Cologne, Aachen, Münster and Osnabrück, and would have enlarged the country's European area by 30 to 50 percent. The local population had to be either deported, or, when still speaking the original Low German dialects, Dutchified. The plan was largely dropped after the U.S. rejected it. Eventually, an area of a total size of 69 km2 (27 sq mi) was allocated to the Netherlands. Almost all of this was returned to West Germany in 1963

 
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Luxembourg plans:

The territorial demands of the ruling Luxembourg National Union Government were made known in late summer 1945. Luxembourg required Germany to relinquish German territory that had been separated from the former Duchy of Luxembourg under the terms of the 1815 Congress of Vienna, and the further extension of Luxembourg to the Saar River. Only a portion of the population of Luxembourg was in agreement with these concepts of a "Greater Luxembourg".

In support of this territorial claim, in November 1945 troops of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg occupied a small zone of their own within the actual French occupation zone, installing two garrisons.

 
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Selfkant was a special case:

After the Second World War, on 23 April 1949, the Netherlands annexed Selfkant as part of war reparations, and its inhabitants were given a Dutch passport with the special indication "to be treated as a Dutchman".

 
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And how was it? :)
I liked it..
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My favorite place.
- Hurrnhut, Germany
- The birth place of the 'Protestant Mission'..
- Moravians/Zinzendorf.
 
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Curious case:

Switzerland did not annex Büsingen, even though Büsingen wanted to be annexed.

The inhabitants of Büsingen do not seem to have historically been very satisfied with their nationality. In fact, in 1918, just after the First World War, a referendum was held in Büsingen in which 96% of the residents voted in favor of joining Switzerland. The Swiss Confederation is very scrupulous With these types of issues, and as he was not able to compensate Germany for the transfer of that town, he rejected the annexation request of the residents of Büsingen.

Büsingen's status implied certain complications in World War II, since the German town was surrounded by a neutral country. Some German soldiers resided in that enclave, and in order to gain access to their homes, the Swiss border guards required them to leave their weapons at the border and cover their uniforms with coats, in such a way as to go unnoticed.


 
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Come to think of it, these Kaufman or Morgenthau maps are not a pleasant subject. Rather sinister, really.

On the lighter side:
Do you know cases where countries are missing from maps, be it because of some mistake, or just for fun?
 
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How East German Maps Made West Berlin (Almost) Disappear

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This map shows what happened next in the minds of the East German authorities: West Berlin atrophied, ceasing to exist as anything but a minor irritant to cartographers.The area served by the green S-Bahn is proudly marked as Berlin, its lines overflowing into the neighbouring districts of Potsdam and Frankfurt-an-der-Oder. A clever ruse explains the diminutive size of Berlin (West): the lines extending westward into Potsdam district are shown on a separate map, overlapping the main map. The missing distance is rendered by arrows, connecting the lines on both maps. Those lines completely encircle West Berlin, greatly diminished by the overlap. Intriguingly, the overlap, where East eats West, creates two holes in the Staatsgrenze (national border) between both Berlins. Loopholes in the East’s cartographic logic? The encircling East Berlin lines look a bit like Pac-Man, the puny West Berlin nothing more than a freshly eaten, half-digested enemy.

It is quite remarkable how Berlin (West) is presented simply as a nondescript obstacle: not a single landmark is named, as if it is deepest, darkest Africa at the beginning of the nineteenth century. Nor are any of the S-Bahn or U-Bahn lines shown.


 
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That is a very interesting response.

Spoils of war?
Reparations. Also, those people were native to central europe. Instead, they were put smack into the middle of people who hated them even worse. Seems like a rotten deal to me.
 
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