ALCOHOL

[durangodawood]

The Bible says that Jesus made wine for people.

Thats a pretty strong endorsement of moderate drinking right there.

 

[Michie]

Okay, one more test. I don't care about your posts or questions. That's not important here.

If I was passing by, and saw the east side of your house on fire, and you were on the opposite side of the house outside and didn't know it was on fire,
would you care enough to want to know ?
If the things you know, like most people, are full of holes and errors, would you want to know ?
If you were buying a car, would you want to know if 1/3 of the spark plugs were either not firing or mis-firing, would you test it, would you want to check out the motor , et al, before buying the car ?

I’d want to know the truth. Which you are not peddling here.

 

[Belk]

Alcohol, I'm not a drinker, .maybe ,1 a year. Lately though there are a few i would have liked to try. Getting back to this thread, the alcohol commercials on TV have become way too enticing even for me. They look delicious and make your mouth water. I think it's awful for young adults to resist that temptation. I thought a long with cigs. They had abolished ads like that for the kids sakes. If not they should. What do we do to get this going? I think alcohol is worse than cigs in many many ways

One of the perils of capitalism. I am a drinker and a hobbyist brewer but would agree that there should be less advertising in this area. It is something that should be approached with an understanding that it is a potent drug and has ruined many lives.

 

[RocK Guy]

The Bible says that Jesus made wine for people.

And you cannot prove that Jesus made fermented wine.

God does not temp any man with evil (James 1:13) so it would have been a sin for Jesus to deliver to these people alcoholic wine as this would have been delivering to them the temptation to get drunk which is sinful behavior.

So the Lord would not be placing temptation in front of them, so the "wine" he created would not have been fermented wine that people could drink and get drunk on.

 

[Michie]

And you cannot prove that Jesus made fermented wine.

God does not temp any man with evil (James 1:13) so it would have been a sin for Jesus to deliver to these people alcoholic wine as this would have been delivering to them the temptation to get drunk which is sinful behavior.

So the Lord would not be placing temptation in front of them, so the "wine" he created would not have been fermented wine that people could drink and get drunk on.

You cannot discuss theology in the Kitchen Sink.

 

[DJWhalen]

 

[durangodawood]

And you cannot prove that Jesus made fermented wine.

God does not temp any man with evil (James 1:13) so it would have been a sin for Jesus to deliver to these people alcoholic wine as this would have been delivering to them the temptation to get drunk which is sinful behavior.

So the Lord would not be placing temptation in front of them, so the "wine" he created would not have been fermented wine that people could drink and get drunk on.

Humans. Wedding. Wine.

Anyone who knows humans knows it was fermented.

Plus
Proverbs 31:6
Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress

As for temptation, how do you explain secual desire, which God seems to have given us? Its this terrific thing, but wow can it tempt us the wrong way.

 

[RocK Guy]

Anyone who knows humans knows it was fermented.

Anyone who knows the Lord Jesus, knows it was NOT fermented because of James 1:13

you cannot discuss theology in the Kitchen Sink.

Sorry, others were discussing this so I thought that's what we were doing with this tropic.

What section would a topic like this belong in?

 

[jacks]

I remember the good old days prior to 11/7/1996.

 

[Michie]

Anyone who knows the Lord Jesus, knows it was NOT fermented because of James 1:13




Sorry, others were discussing this so I thought that's what we were doing with this tropic.

What section would a topic like this belong in?

Usually general theology.

General Theology

Topics that do not fit in any other forum, eg. Angelology

www.christianforums.com

 

[RocK Guy]

I remember the good old days prior to 11/7/1996.

There are no good OLD days... for Christians all the good days of going forward.

 

[durangodawood]

Anyone who knows the Lord Jesus, knows it was NOT fermented because of James 1:13

Thats vague as to exactly what situations it applies to. Meanwhile, the proverb I provided is inescapably specific. Plus no way were people at a wedding going to be thrilled by this weird NA wine.

For sure the Bible counsels against excessive wine consumption in many instances.

 

[Rsdar]

And you cannot prove that Jesus made fermented wine.

God does not temp any man with evil (James 1:13) so it would have been a sin for Jesus to deliver to these people alcoholic wine as this would have been delivering to them the temptation to get drunk which is sinful behavior.

So the Lord would not be placing temptation in front of them, so the "wine" he created would not have been fermented wine that people could drink and get drunk on.

 

[RocK Guy]

Thats vague as to exactly what situations it applies to. Meanwhile, the proverb I provided is inescapably specific. Plus no way were people at a wedding going to be thrilled by this weird NA wine.

For sure the Bible counsels against excessive wine consumption in many instances.

you cannot discuss theology in the Kitchen Sink.

Maybe in the toilet, but NOT the Kitchen Sink.

 

[Rsdar]

That is if it were evil. Wine was intoxicating in the Bible. Drunkards are not referring to any drinking. Preachers have made their own bias and then tried to make Scripture support it. I've been in churches that taught total abstinence and if you have or ever had a problem in this area then by all means abstain but if not I certainly find no Scriptures saying alcohol is evil. Sorry, but the Bible seems clear that some were miraculously intoxicated on what many call grape juice.

 

[RocK Guy]

you cannot discuss theology in the Kitchen Sink.

Didn't you get the memo?

 

[RileyG]

I had some dry red wine last night. It was good.

 

[Michie]

I had some dry red wine last night. It was good.

Sounds good. I’m avoiding alcohol right now because I’m on antibiotics for a few more days.

 

[RileyG]

Sounds good. I’m avoiding alcohol right now because I’m on antibiotics for a few more days.

Hope you feel better soon!

 

[Michie]

Hope you feel better soon!

It’s coming along!