President Biden and Democrats have a plan for American energy: make it harder to produce and more expensive to purchase

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Interesting how quickly we've gone from accusations that no amount of facts will convince people who don't agree with the right wing view to begging those people to please find facts which support the right wing view.
It's amusing and interesting that you think that I was begging. Also, I was very clearly asking for a neutral source of information and facts on this topic.
 
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Then off you go and find some that will help you answer those questions. Show us your workings.
Maybe I can find enough time in the near future to do that.
 
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Maybe I can find enough time in the near future to do that.
You mean you haven't had time to check what you've been claiming is true? Anyway, we'll wait here until you get back with the info.
 
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You mean you haven't had time to check what you've been claiming is true? Anyway, we'll wait here until you get back with the info.
I've read analysis from multiple different sources over the years. But I cannot remember where to find a concise and factual analysis with facts on this topic from a neutral source. Meanwhile, I am sure that you will continue to trust federal government sources.
 
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I've read analysis from multiple different sources over the years. But I cannot remember where to find a concise and factual analysis with facts on this topic from a neutral source. Meanwhile, I am sure that you will continue to trust federal government sources.
Off you go then...any claims you make are useless unless you back them up with something concrete.
 
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Off you go then...any claims you make are useless unless you back them up with something concrete.
Any claims that trust in the data from the Federal Government on this topic and many other topics are useless, in my opinion.
 
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Any claims that trust in the data from the Federal Government on this topic and many other topics are useless, in my opinion.
Go find some others then. No need you wasting your time telling me what you don't trust. I want to know what sources you do.
 
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Also, I was very clearly asking for a neutral source of information and facts on this topic.
That's not true. The request was for "information" which supported a very specific non-mainstream view of a scientific subject, one specifically in line with GOP messaging.
 
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It's amusing and interesting that you think that I was begging. Also, I was very clearly asking for a neutral source of information and facts on this topic.
The EIA *is* a neutral source. They are not a policy or enforcement agency. They collect data.
 
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That's not true. The request was for "information" which supported a very specific non-mainstream view of a scientific subject, one specifically in line with GOP messaging.
Your post and analysis is incorrect. I am specifically asking for a neutral source.
 
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The EIA *is* a neutral source. They are not a policy or enforcement agency. They collect data.
I'm still skeptical. However, I am willing to take a deep dive into their collection of data when I can find the time to do so.
 
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Any claims that trust in the data from the Federal Government on this topic and many other topics are useless, in my opinion.
What’s “conservative” about not trusting the government?
 
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What’s “conservative” about not trusting the government?
When agencies and people and bureaucrats have shown themselves to be untrustworthy, they lose the trust of regular, common-sense conservatives like myself.
 
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When agencies and people and bureaucrats have shown themselves to be untrustworthy, they lose the trust of regular, common-sense conservatives like myself.
How have the agencies in question lost your trust?
 
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Do I really have to spell this out for you, my brother in Christ?
Well this is a text based forum. I do not believe anyone is able to know what you mean without you spelling it out in a post.
 
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Your post and analysis is incorrect. I am specifically asking for a neutral source.
No, your post specifically wanted data from those who supported a particular view : "sources that don't support the climate change new green deal agendas". That's the opposite of neutral.
 
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No, your post specifically wanted data from those who supported a particular view : "sources that don't support the climate change new green deal agendas". That's the opposite of neutral.
Fair point. However, common sense tells me that I said that because the "evidence" formerly presented to me did indeed come from news sources which believe in the new green deal, climate change agenda.
 
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Fair point. However, common sense tells me that I said that because the "evidence" formerly presented to me did indeed come from news sources which believe in the new green deal, climate change agenda.
“Common sense” had the sun going around the Earth each day.
 
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