The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, has set us free from the law of sin and death?

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Like your post, but isn't this what Him is already expressing? That's how I understood it.
I agree with you that this problem, the one of disobedience toward the Scripture instruction to be careful not to gratify the flesh, but rather give yourself wholly to following in step with the Spirit, is a dangerous and crippling problem in the Church. Perhaps this is a response of showing mercy to visitors seeking God. It is misleading false doctrine...watered down theology. Not to sound too harsh, however, some do require a very gentle approach.

Originally Him was promoting the religious philosophy that the “Law of the Spirit of Live” that was in Christ Jesus, AND the Law of sin Paul spoke of, are not found in the law and Prophets. I posted the Biblical Truth which clearly show that the Law of the Spirit of Life and the “Law of Sin” are both defined in great detail in the Holy Scriptures.

So Him amended His OP, to exclude the Law of the Spirit of Life” as not found in the Holy Scriptures, But continued to promote the Philosophy that the “Law of Sin” was not defined by God in the Law and Prophets.

I offered many Scriptures which show that God promised “curses” that befall on men who reject God’s instructions AKA. “Sin”. These are the Law of Sin. It includes deception, blindness, indifference, and so on.

I posted support for this Biblical Truth in both the OT and the NT. But no discussion ensued, no examination of the Scriptures I posted. It was implied that my understanding was wrong, because Him said so. There was no actual discussion of the actual Scriptures.

I believed that Him was a likeminded in that he wasn’t just working to justify his every word, or some religious philosophy he adopted, rather, he like me are seeking the truth of God.

I was surprised by his indifference to the Scriptures I posted, and what they meant concerning the OP.

I agree that men seeking truth be carefully handled, but preachers, influencing others fall under a different approach, as Jesus clearly showed to the mainstream preachers of His time.

I do like your posts as well. I am comforted by men who seek Gods truth.
 
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Originally Him was promoting the religious philosophy that the “Law of the Spirit of Live” that was in Christ Jesus, AND
No you misread it and I seen why it could have been misunderstood so I edited the post. This came out in our discourse. Please don't play games.
 
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. But no discussion ensued, no examination of the Scriptures I posted. It was implied that my understanding was wrong, because Him said so. There was no actual discussion of the actual Scriptures.

I believed that Him was a likeminded in that he wasn’t just working to justify his every word, or some religious philosophy he adopted, rather, he like me are seeking the truth of God.

I was surprised by his indifference to the Scriptures I posted, and what they meant concerning the OP.
You say a lot you shouldn't in respect to the people you talk to. It wasn't indifference. Nothing you posted is relevant in respect to what the Law of sin is, You only say it is. Nor did you address the things which were shown to you from chapter 7. One only has to read the thread to see this.
 
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Not one mentioned of law of sin which is the slavery to sin mentioned in Romans 7 that the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus set us free from. Only the consequences which is death.

And just in case you or anyone is not aware, it is the Law of sin. Death is a consequence of it not part of it as disclosed in Romans 7. Though the Life in Christ does deliver us from it, it is not the same.


This verse in Deut, was already addressed here.
Do you really not understand what I trying to point out?

Duet. 30: 19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that "I have set before you" life and death, blessing and cursing: (The Law of the Spirit of Life AND the Law of sin and Death) "therefore choose life", ( with the mind I serve the Law of God) that both thou and thy seed may live:



Sorry no mention there of our slavery to sin when we don't have God's Spirit through Christ.

As Paul mentioned, our slavery to sin is the Law of the sin. And as seen in the text he mentions it in contrast to the Law of the God that He delights in. The Law of God that shows us our sin.
 
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If we condition our salvation on something we do or abstain from doing, then we have not been set free from the law of sin and death.
If we are sinning willfully, after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins, only a fearful, looking forward to judgment and fiery indignation. He that despised Moses law died without mercy under two or three witnesses. How much more sorer punishment suppose you be thought worthyof, when you do, despite the spirit of grace. Fearful thing to fall into the hands of God.
 
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If we are sinning willfully, after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins, only a fearful, looking forward to judgment and fiery indignation. He that despised Moses law died without mercy under two or three witnesses. How much more sorer punishment suppose you be thought worthyof, when you do, despite the spirit of grace. Fearful thing to fall into the hands of God.
If we condition our salvation on something we do or abstain from doing, then we have not been set free from the law of sin and death.
 
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You say a lot you shouldn't in respect to the people you talk to. It wasn't indifference. Nothing you posted is relevant in respect to what the Law of sin is, You only say it is.
You judge God's Word that I posted as irrelevant "to you", and certainly they can't be used to help you promote your philosophy, "The law above in the clause, law of sin is not the law or a law found in the Book of the Law or of the decalogue". But God's Word was not irrelevant to Paul, in my view, or irrelevant to me for that matter.

Truly this is the foundation of our disagreement. I just don't believe that God, defining for me His Law of LIFE, and His LAW of Sin in Deuteronomy 28, 30, is irrelevant for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, to Paul's teaching in Romans.

Being brought into captivity to the Law of Sin, is being held by the Yoke of Bondage that God promised to those who will not hearken to His Voice.

"But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; (AKA SIN) that all these curses shall come upon thee, "and overtake thee":

This is the Law of Sin that Paul found in his members. They include blindness and deception as the Scriptures I posted show us. This cursed man of sin is destined to die, by Law. "who shall deliver me from the body of this death?". The old man, through Christ Jesus, is crucified, replaced by the New Man, who serves the Law of God in his mind through the mercy and Grace of God. And no longer walks after the flesh. "Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof."

This man is no longer deceived and held captive, "their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools," This free's Paul from the curses God promised in the Book of the Law.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life "in Christ Jesus" hath made me free from the law of sin and death. (Curses) Same as Abraham, same as Caleb, same as Zacharias, Simeon and Anna.

This is God's Plan from the very beginning. Righteousness is a choice. This is why God placed Eve in the garden where the Law of the Spirit of Life existed, as well as the Law of sin and death.

She chose to "Yield herself" a servant to obey the Law of Sin and Death as we all have.

The Jesus "of the Bible" also had the same Law warring against the Law of His mind, trying to bring Him into Captivity to the Law of Sin. But HE chose Life every time. So then with His mind HE served the law of God, therefore, He was never taken captive to the Law of Sin.

Nor did you address the things which were shown to you from chapter 7. One only has to read the thread to see this.

That's simply not true. One only has to read the thread to see this.
 
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The law of sin and death is when we are attempting to be saved based upon our own obedience, its nothing but fruit unto death Rom 6 21

What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

Rom7 5

For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
 
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The law of sin and death is when we are attempting to be saved based upon our own obedience, its nothing but fruit unto death Rom 6 21

What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

Rom7 5

For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
 
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If we condition our salvation on something we do or abstain from doing, then we have not been set free from the law of sin and death.
This isn't only Critical to comprehend... it is exactly what Paul is implying when he uses the word "Anethema". If this very point is tampered with, within the Gospel, Paul implicitly "Dislikes" that Tampered with Gospel. Later, this word "Anethema" evolved into a formal curse by a pope or a council of the Church, excommunicating a person or denouncing a doctrine.

Paul does adamantly even suggest that tampering with this point should be met by a form of performing a botched circumcision on oneself, by the end of Galatians. :tearsofjoy: I'm one hundred and ninety-nine percent certain that Paul meant what he was saying.
 
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You judge God's Word that I posted as irrelevant "to you", and certainly they can't be used to help you promote your philosophy,

No, irrelevant to the topic as was stated in the post you responded to, shown below.. And as was said, you say more than you ought to and about others.Maybe pause before you post
Nothing you posted is relevant in respect to what the Law of sin is, You only say it is.
 
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Not one mentioned of law of sin which is the slavery to sin mentioned in Romans 7 that the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus set us free from. Only the consequences which is death.

Rom. 7: 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, "deceived me", and (then) by it slew me.

Death is the conclusion, the end result. But how did Sin deceive Paul? If not through the curses God promised in Duet?

Rom. 1: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Who darkened their heart Him? And where is this condition first defined?

2 Thes. 2 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for "this cause" "God shall send" them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Is this not being brought captive to the Law of Sin?

Matt. 13: 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

How can you preach to others that these Words of the Jesus "of the Bible" are not consequences of or the Law of sin?

Duet. 28: 28 The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart: 29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.

How can you preach to the world that the above isn't being held captive to the Law of Sin Paul was held captive by?

And what does Paul do to remedy this circumstance? "I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh "the law of sin".

Rom. 6: 6 Knowing this, that our old man ( deceived, blinded, veil over the heart, seeing but can't see, a leavened lump, cursed by God) is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.



And just in case you or anyone is not aware, it is the Law of sin. Death is a consequence of it not part of it as disclosed in Romans 7. Though the Life in Christ does deliver us from it, it is not the same.

This verse in Deut, was already addressed here.

You are taking a few verses out of the Bible, then separating them from the rest of God's Word in order to create doctrine. In this case, that God didn't define Paul's struggle, or the Law of Sin Paul was brought into captivity to, in the Law and Prophets.

Why can't you see this?
 
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You are taking a few verses out of the Bible, then separating them from the rest of God's Word in order to create doctrine. In this case, that God didn't define Paul's struggle,
We will look at your post when we have more time. Thanks for the reply
 
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Paul said in Romans 8, "The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of sin and death."

The law above in the clause, law of sin is not the law or a law found in the Book of the Law or of the decalogue. Most people don't understand these text so you are not alone. Please follow along.
Paul says that he does what he doesn't want to do because sin dwells in him in Rom 7:20. After saying this he says in context to it in verse 21, "I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me."

In other words not being able to control himself (ourselves) because of the indwelling sin is the law he found. This is brought out even further by the next two verses.

Paul says that he delights in the Law of God in relation to the good that he wants to do. But then he says he sees ANOTHER law in his members. This OTHER law that he says he found, the law that when he would do good evil is present with him. It is through this law he does what he would not, because of the sin that dwells in him. He as we can't help ourselves.

O wretched man that I am who shall deliver me (us) from this body of death that has sin dwelling in it?

Then because of the good that Paul wants to do He thanks God through Jesus Christ that he serves the Law of God with His mind. But there is a contrast in his flesh that he can not do what he would. He is in captivity, serving the law of sin in and with his flesh.

However there is therefore NOW no condemnation to us who are in Christ Jesus he continues in chapter 8. We who walk after the Spirit, His Spirit and not after the flesh, the sin that dwells in it. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us free from the law of sin, the law that he found and is, the law that when we would do good evil is present with us. The law that we do what we would not, because of the sin that dwells in us and the result of it is death. For the wages of sin is death. (Rom 6:23) For what the law, the law of God that we serve with our minds could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh that had sin dwelling in it, God sent his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:That the righteousness of the law of God might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit of Christ Jesus whom we are in. And He in us that the world might believe.

And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. So say not in your heart, who shall bring Christ, through which we recieve the Word, His commandments and statutes contained in the Book of the Law in the heart down from above or up from the deep. But the righteousness of faith speaks this. The Word is in your heart and in your mouth that you can do it. That the righteousness of the Law, the Law of God be fulfilled in us who walk after the Spirit of Christ and not after the flesh, the sin that dwells in us. This is the word of faith in which we preach.



Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above)
Rom 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Deut 30:10 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.
Deut 30:11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.
Deut 30:12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
Deut 30:13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
Deut 30:14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
Him, are you specifying that the Torah and all encapsulated Law within is abrogated by Jesus Christ's work, in relation to our flesh, yet not abrogated in the Heavenly sense, but, fulfilled by Jesus Christ, on our behalf, in the Heavenly sense? Are you suggesting that Paul struggles to not hold his Flesh accountable to the Torah, but, instead to hold himself accountable to the Freeing Law of the Spirit of Life (Christ's Royal Law, spoken of in James 2 and that Paul speaks of in 1 Corinthians 13... And Jesus speaks of when He "Gives us a NEW LAW", in the Book of John)?
 
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Someone tries to make me angry, the flesh response is to do the same to them, to get revenge.
The Spirit response is to love your enemies and do good to them that hate you.
( And some save with fear )

Let us walk after the Spirit and not after the flesh.
For they that walk after the flesh can not please God.
 
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Him, are you specifying that the Torah and all encapsulated Law within is abrogated by Jesus Christ's work, in relation to our flesh, yet not abrogated in the Heavenly sense, but, fulfilled by Jesus Christ, on our behalf, in the Heavenly sense? Are you suggesting that Paul struggles to not hold his Flesh accountable to the Torah, but, instead to hold himself accountable to the Freeing Law of the Spirit of Life (Christ's Royal Law, spoken of in James 2 and that Paul speaks of in 1 Corinthians 13... And Jesus speaks of when He "Gives us a NEW LAW", in the Book of John)?
Abrogated no. not in the way you are putting forward. Abrogated in the sense that we are not to be lawbreakers, sinners anymore through the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ. For the old man is crucified that the Body of sin be destroyed. Hence forth we are not to serve sin. For He that is dead is freed from sin. Behold all is new and of God. That the righteousness of the Law be fulfilled in us Who walk after the Spirit, the Law in our hearts and minds, the Word in our heart and mouth and not after the flesh. Not because the Law says so, but because we are changed. It has become part of who we are and we want to. So, there is to be no need for the Law because the Law is for sinners.

but, instead to hold himself accountable to the Freeing Law of the Spirit of Life (Christ's Royal Law, spoken of in James 2
You are mistaken. The Royal Law in James Speaks of that which is given by God through the ministry of Moses and the Ten. The Law of Liberty which is the engrafted word of truth which we have been begotten by spoken in James 1:18,21 is the Law of the Spirit of the life in Christ of which we speak. James 1:25 and James 2:12
 
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Abrogated no. not in the way you are putting forward. Abrogated in the sense that we are not to be lawbreakers, sinners anymore through the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ. For the old man is crucified that the Body of sin be destroyed. Hence forth we are not to serve sin. For He that is dead is freed from sin. Behold all is new and of God. That the righteousness of the Law be fulfilled in us Who walk after the Spirit, the Law in our hearts and minds, the Word in our heart and mouth and not after the flesh. Not because the Law says so, but because we are changed. It has become part of who we are and we want to. So, there is to be no need for the Law because the Law is for sinners.


You are mistaken. The Royal Law in James Speaks of that which is given by God through the ministry of Moses and the Ten. The Law of Liberty which is the engrafted word of truth which we have been begotten by spoken in James 1:18,21 is the Law of the Spirit of the life in Christ of which we speak. James 1:25 and James 2:12
Paul made a typo in Hebrews! Somebody needs to tell him… o_O
 
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Not that it really matters but it is Deut. 28:28 not duet my friend. If you do correct it, this mistake is in the last couple posts
How can you preach to the world that the above isn't being held captive to the Law of Sin Paul was held captive by?
Because it does not speak of the fact that he that commits sin is a servant to it. That, that which we would, we do not. But the evil that we wouldn't that we do. And if we do what we would not, it is no longer we who do it but the sin that dwells in us.
 
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Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Very interesting.
The law of sin in my flesh is from God? Not my own fleshly desires?
And the law in my mind is from God also? So God tempts me?

What if Romans 7 has been a little bit twisted? As Peter said would happen 2 Peter 3:15-16.


But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind,
and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my memebers.
So then with the mind I my conscious self serve the law of God,
but with the flesh the law of sin.
Oh wretched man that I am! Who shall save me from this body of death!?
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord!
There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit.


Just flows way better, and fits perfectly with the context around it.
 
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