Flat Earth And Christianity

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1. It doesn't. The Earth's orbital velocity is 66,616 mph. But, to the rest of the world its 107,208 kph

2. It doesn't. Firstly, curvature per square mile doesn't make sense.

The measure is 7.98 inches per mile squared for the equatorial axis. Which is .665. It's also 8.02 inches per mile squared for the polar axis, which is 0.668.

Of course, for an observer staring at the horizon, this only works for the first mile. The relative drop off increases quickly, even when the absolute drop off stays constant.

3. Earth doesn't tilt at 66.6 degrees. At present, it tilts at an average of 23.44 degrees, with a wobble of about plus and minus 1.2 degrees over a 72 year cycle. We're about 1/2 way through a postive change at the moment, with the Earth likely to hit about 24.1 degrees in roughly 2058 to 2060. After which it will go through a negative obliquity change, and bottom out at about 22.7 degrees.
 
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Makes you wonder how many people are on the payroll because they constantly mock truth tellers on these forums.

Evil people tell Lies. That's what they do.

CF staffers have a little badge under their names, but I don't think they get paid. Not sure what other "the payroll" there could be on this site. Would you care to enlighten us?
 
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Makes you wonder how many people are on the payroll because they constantly mock truth tellers on these forums.
Sorry, Flerfies can't be "truth tellers", because their entire cosmology is based on an egregious untruth.

God's creation is laid out before us, mate. Take a look and *see* how it's made.

You've got yourself a whole new religion where salvation depends of embracing a series of astronomical and geological falsehoods.

I'll stick with the one that knows nothing among us but Jesus Christ and Him crucified. No nonexistent spacemen or demons dressed up as nonexistent spacemen necessary.
Evil people tell Lies. That's what they do.
This just in: flat earth is a lie. Stationary stars are a lie. The Book of Heavenly Luminaries is a collection of lies, as is most of the "Book of Enoch". "Nibiru" is a lie. That's enough to go on with, I think. Believe that bilge if you want to. Elevate such hogwash to a position above that of the Gospels; it's a free country, innit? Badmouth those who take our Lord's Word literally, and praise those with so little wit that they can't discern stories meant to teach difficult concepts from the concepts themselves, or symbols for the things they're meant to symbolize.
 
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Two nice photos showing a flat cloud plain, above the flat earth.

Pretty shots. Where's the sun go when it "goes down"? Howcome it's 2:13 am in Denmark right now but only 7:13 pm here? Howcome it's 11:13 Saturday morning in Seoul right now? WEe saw the sun go down, but how'd it come back up in Korea? What's up with that? Makes perfect sense if the word is round and spinning. none at all if the word is flat.
 
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Two nice photos showing a flat cloud plain, above the flat earth.


A couple photos taken from the window of a plane in the lower stratosphere showing the cloud deck at the tropopause below. The tropopause is locally at uniform height (it varies from about 9 km at the poles to 17 km at the equator) like the ocean surface, so it looks flat on horizon length scales. Big deal.
 
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So Many Times Right ?


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Speed of sound: knots per second is an acceleration, not speed. So much for accuracy! And talking of accuracy, the Mercury number is out by a factor of 100.

The speed of sound in air is 777 miles per hour. The perfect number. As the speed of sound is slightly temperature dependent, this perfect speed occurs at 27.7 degC. Which is the ideal temperature to be sipping a cool drink, relaxing in the shade somewhere quiet.

And knots should not be used. Knots give bad numbers.
 
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Too bad you don't have one of sunset and only half the sun.

Where do yo suppose the rest of it is?
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In them He has set a tabernacle for the sun,
Which is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
And rejoices like a strong man to run its race.
Its rising is from one end of heaven,
And its circuit to the other end;
And there is nothing hidden from its heat.

tequphah

circuit, come about, end
Or tquphah {tek-oo-faw'}; from naqaph; a revolution, i.e. (of the sun) course, (of time) lapse -- circuit, come about, end.

revolution: rĕv″ə-loo͞′shən
noun

  1. Orbital motion about a point, especially as distinguished from axial rotation.
  2. A turning or rotational motion about an axis.
  3. A single complete cycle of such orbital or axial motion.
 
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What is quite laughable about these vague associations of physical constants, irrespective of whether they have been accurately defined or not, with the devil's number 666 is that the devil's number may have been in fact 616. :scratch:

It's also not as if the measurements are some kind of mystical constants from the Bible... the length of a mile is arbitrary.
 
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In them He has set a tabernacle for the sun,
Which is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
And rejoices like a strong man to run its race.
Its rising is from one end of heaven,
And its circuit to the other end;
And there is nothing hidden from its heat.

tequphah

circuit, come about, end
Or tquphah {tek-oo-faw'}; from naqaph; a revolution, i.e. (of the sun) course, (of time) lapse -- circuit, come about, end.

revolution: rĕv″ə-loo͞′shən
noun
  1. Orbital motion about a point, especially as distinguished from axial rotation.
  2. A turning or rotational motion about an axis.
  3. A single complete cycle of such orbital or axial motion.
And how does that address half the sun no longer visible?
 
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Gene2memE has already posted arguing that the numbers in question are not accurate (while you could maybe get the first two by rounding, the last one seems completely wrong) and several rely on using a measurement system the majority of the world does not use. But we run into bigger problems in that this is a bad application of the Number of the Beast in Revelation. We see the same problem in your subsequent picture:
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Again the claims are given with no citation whatsoever, and the numbers are of questionable accuracy (for example, it claims the force of gravity on Earth is 666 newtons. But a quick search indicates to me it is instead 9.8 newtons), and they also multiple times rely on relying on units that in some cases most of the world does not even use. Why do people simply see images that offer no sources and citations and then assume everything them is completely correct without performing some degree of verification first?

However, beyond the questions of the numbers in these images, we run into a larger issue, which is that they are not applying Revelation properly. While it does not explicitly state the number of the beast is the number of its name, Revelation 13:17 and Revelation 15:2 heavily favor that interpretation. Clearly, the numbers above do not come from any names. Additionally, Revelation 13:18 says, depending on translation, to be a man's number or man's number (the Greek word can be used to refer to either an individual man or mankind in general). But Earth revolution speed, tilt, curvature, and the rest are not those either.

But we run into a bigger problem than even that: The poorly researched meme images fall under the frustratingly common but still incorrect belief that the Number of the Beast is three 6's. It's not. It's six hundred and sixty six, the number. Revelation does not present the number of the Beast as three 6's, but rather the numerical value of six hundred and sixty six (it is therefore more accurate for translations to write out the number as six hundred sixty-six than 666). Heck, the Greek didn't even use our modern notation where you use the same symbol three times to write it out, they had the symbol for six hundred (χ), the separate symbol for sixty (ξ), and the separate symbol for six (ς). It was written as χξς (with a little line on top of it to show it was a number, the symbols in question were letters of the Greek alphabet, but when written with a line over them are used as numerals). This confirms to us that it's the specific numerical value of six hundred and sixty six that matters, not just finding three 6's together. So 66,600 or 0.666 or 66.6 don't mean anything; indeed, they're hundreds or even thousands away from the actual six hundred and sixty six value!

Revelation says the number six hundred and sixty six; not sixty-six thousand and six hundred, not six hundred sixty six thousandth, not sixty six and six tenths, not six times sixty times six hundred sixty six (which is actually 239,760, very far off!), not six hundred times six times six, and not one and six hundred sixty six thousandths. It says six hundred sixty six, on the dot (a few manuscripts do offer 616, but of course if that is the number it throws out your entire claim anyway). Any number that is not exactly six hundred and sixty six is irrelevant. So even if those non-six hundred and sixty six numbers you blindly trusted without verification were correct--and at least some of them are clearly false--it still would mean nothing, because the number is six hundred and sixty six.
 
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And how does that address half the sun no longer visible?
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The sun is a convex disk facing the earth 5000 (+or-) miles high. As the sun moves in its circuit, it moves out of a persons visual field. It goes past a person's eye sight vanishing point.
 
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