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[Frank Robert]

I think a lot of people accept what they find on the internet at face value because it supports confirmation bias.

You are grasping at straws.

Bias can be a problem but it is not a problem for a climate change as there literally thousands of studies pointing overwhelming consilience of evidence that climate change is a fact and literally no evidence that it is not because of human activity. Where is the bias?

Here is page one from a search of "human activity and climate changes" which results in
About 942,000,000 results

More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate ...​

https://news.cornell.edu › stories › 2021/10 › more-999..
Oct 19, 2021 — More than 99.9% of peer-reviewed scientific papers agree that climate change is mainly caused by humans, according to a new survey of 88125 ...

Analysis: Why scientists think 100% of global warming is due ...
https://www.carbonbrief.org › analysis-why-scientists-th...
Dec 13, 2017 — The science on the human contribution to modern warming is quite clear. Humans emissions and activities have caused around 100% of the ...

What Is the Evidence for Human-Caused Climate Change?​

https://scienceexchange.caltech.edu › sustainability › ev...
Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. Multiple studies show that 97 percent or more of climate ...

Vital Signs of the Planet - Causes | Facts – Climate Change
https://climate.nasa.gov › causes
Human activities are driving the global warming trend observed since the ... Studies show that solar variability has played a role in past climate changes.

Causes of Climate Change | US EPA​

https://www.epa.gov › climatechange-science › causes-c...

Aug 19, 2022 — Human activities have contributed substantially to climate change through: Greenhouse Gas Emissions; Reflectivity or Absorption of the Sun's ...
6. Humans Affect Climate
https://cleanet.org › clean › literacy › principle_6
Dec 16, 2022 — Human activities, particularly the combustion of fossil fuels, are altering the climate system. Human-driven changes in land use and land cover ...

9 ways we know humans caused climate change
https://www.edf.org › climate › 9-ways-we-know-huma...
Most Americans recognize climate change, but some are still unsure about its causes. Tens of thousands of scientists in more than a hundred nations have ...

3. Are human activities causing climate change?​

https://www.science.org.au › science-climate-change
Human activities have increased greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere. Atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2), methane and nitrous ...

Greater than 99% consensus on human caused climate ...​

by M Lynas · 2021 · Cited by 63 — In 2016 Pew Research found that only 27% of U.S. adults believed that 'almost all' scientists agreed that climate change is due to human ...

Are Humans the Major Cause of Global Warming?​

https://www.ucsusa.org › resources › are-humans-major...
ul 14, 2009 — Within the scientific community, there is essentially no disagreement on the causes of climate change. Multiple studies have shown that at least

 

[Larniavc]

There are a number of scientists who scientifically demonstrate the implausibility of evolution.

Really? Seems contradicted by your first point.

What was the last piece of Evolution disconfirming research you read? Do you have a link?

 

[Frank Robert]

You should be a comedian. How does a creationist get a paper published? There are a number of scientists who scientifically demonstrate the implausibility of evolution. Did you read the article? It was written by a scientist.

I agree that there are some very good scientists that are creationist or more likely IDists, like Behi and Wood who have scientific publications yet they accept the overwhelming evidence for evoluiton. When creationists' scientists talk or write about about evolution they do so in apologetics not science.

If you want to learn more, I recommend the book The Creationists: From Scientific Creationism to Intelligent Design.

 

[Ceallaigh]

You are grasping at straws.

Bias can be a problem but it is not a problem for a climate change as there literally thousands of studies pointing overwhelming consilience of evidence that climate change is a fact and literally no evidence that it is not because of human activity. Where is the bias?

Here is page one from a search of "human activity and climate changes" which results in
About 942,000,000 results

This right here tells me you don't really understand how things work. Google searches include how many times each word in the search occurs. Think about how often the word "and" occurs.

More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate ...​

https://news.cornell.edu › stories › 2021/10 › more-999..
Oct 19, 2021 — More than 99.9% of peer-reviewed scientific papers agree that climate change is mainly caused by humans, according to a new survey of 88125 ...

Analysis: Why scientists think 100% of global warming is due ...
https://www.carbonbrief.org › analysis-why-scientists-th...
Dec 13, 2017 — The science on the human contribution to modern warming is quite clear. Humans emissions and activities have caused around 100% of the ...

What Is the Evidence for Human-Caused Climate Change?​

https://scienceexchange.caltech.edu › sustainability › ev...
Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. Multiple studies show that 97 percent or more of climate ...

Vital Signs of the Planet - Causes | Facts – Climate Change
https://climate.nasa.gov › causes
Human activities are driving the global warming trend observed since the ... Studies show that solar variability has played a role in past climate changes.

Causes of Climate Change | US EPA​

https://www.epa.gov › climatechange-science › causes-c...

Aug 19, 2022 — Human activities have contributed substantially to climate change through: Greenhouse Gas Emissions; Reflectivity or Absorption of the Sun's ...
6. Humans Affect Climate
https://cleanet.org › clean › literacy › principle_6
Dec 16, 2022 — Human activities, particularly the combustion of fossil fuels, are altering the climate system. Human-driven changes in land use and land cover ...

9 ways we know humans caused climate change
https://www.edf.org › climate › 9-ways-we-know-huma...
Most Americans recognize climate change, but some are still unsure about its causes. Tens of thousands of scientists in more than a hundred nations have ...

3. Are human activities causing climate change?​

https://www.science.org.au › science-climate-change
Human activities have increased greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere. Atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2), methane and nitrous ...

Greater than 99% consensus on human caused climate ...​

by M Lynas · 2021 · Cited by 63 — In 2016 Pew Research found that only 27% of U.S. adults believed that 'almost all' scientists agreed that climate change is due to human ...

Are Humans the Major Cause of Global Warming?​

https://www.ucsusa.org › resources › are-humans-major...
ul 14, 2009 — Within the scientific community, there is essentially no disagreement on the causes of climate change. Multiple studies have shown that at least

And those are some of the hits you got in that Google search. And I suppose I'm supposed to read and research all of them, even though there there's a good chance you didn't.

I think at best like most you just dabble in this and have acquired a certain amount of surface knowledge/jargon. Like Greta Thunberg for example. I think that applies to most people who are really into climate change catastrophe caused by human activity and how we MUST DO SOMETHING!

I've been down this road before. And I've found that most have no real idea of what that something is. Uh um, stopping cattle flatulation?! Wait I know, electric cars! What about the issues regarding all the lithium that will be required for all those battery driven cars? All the mining and processing? Uh um... What about all the extra electricity that's going to have to be generated? Uh um... What do you think will fuel all those extra power plants that will be needed? Uh um...

 

[Frank Robert]

This right here tells me you don't really understand how things work. Google searches include how many times each word in the search occurs. Think about how often the word "and" occurs.

And those are some of the hits you got in that Google search. And I suppose I'm supposed to read and research all of them, even though there there's a good chance you didn't.

You are still grasping at straws. It is oblivious you do not understand how google works. The fact that there are over 9 million hits demonstrates the vast amt of interest regarding climate change and human causes whether positive or negative.

If you wanted to learn something besides nonsense you can easily read the references from the first page which are usually the most read and referenced for human caused climate change. You can also do a search on humans "not responsible" for climate change. I warn you though if you do it will likely cause cognitive dissonance.

 

[doubtingmerle]

I've been down this road before. And I've found that most have no real idea of what that something is. Uh um, stopping cattle flatulation?! Wait I know, electric cars! What about the issues regarding all the lithium that will be required for all those battery driven cars? All the mining and processing? Uh um... What about all the extra electricity that's going to have to be generated? Uh um... What do you think will fuel all those extra power plants that will be needed? Uh um...

I agree with you that those who are concerned about global warning often have no serious plan on what to do about it. Shut down all oil wells! Ok, but is the person that suggests that willing to accept the starvation of perhaps 3/4 of the population?

Suggesting that global warming has simplistic answers is not realistic. But suggesting that we do not need to worry about it is even worse. For global warming could lead to catastrophe.

Humans have significantly increased the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere in the last 100 years. Do you agree?

CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and tends to warm a planet. Do you agree?

The Earth has seen significant rise in temperature as the result of this increased CO2. Do you agree?

If this trend continues, it could have drastic results for the world, and for humans in particular. Do you agree?

 

[Ceallaigh]

You are still grasping at straws. It is oblivious you do not understand how google works. The fact that there are over 9 million hits demonstrates the vast amt of interest regarding climate change and human causes whether positive or negative.

It was 942 million hits. Not too good with math eh? Allow me to demonstrate. Google search "human" About 18,900,000,000 results (0.57 seconds)

If you wanted to learn something besides nonsense you can easily read the references from the first page which are usually the most read and referenced for human caused climate change. You can also do a search on humans "not responsible" for climate change. I warn you though if you do it will likely cause cognitive dissonance.

Climate fanatics like saying "cognitive dissonance" because they heard it from their chief guru Bill Nye the Science Guy. But I doubt most upstands what it actually means.

 

[Ceallaigh]

I agree with you that those who are concerned about global warning often have no serious plan on what to do about it. Shut down all oil wells! Ok, but is the person that suggests that willing to accept the starvation of perhaps 3/4 of the population?

Suggesting that global warming has simplistic answers is not realistic. But suggesting that we do not need to worry about it is even worse. For global warming could lead to catastrophe.

Humans have significantly increased the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere in the last 100 years. Do you agree?

CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and tends to warm a planet. Do you agree?

The Earth has seen significant rise in temperature as the result of this increased CO2. Do you agree?

If this trend continues, it could have drastic results for the world, and for humans in particular. Do you agree?

The planet goes through all kinds of changes. Always has. I can't say how much is ordinary change and how much is man made. Scientists have presented good arguments for both or a combination of both.

 

[doubtingmerle]

The planet goes through all kinds of changes. Always has. I can't say how much is ordinary change and how much is man made. Scientists have presented good arguments for both or a combination of both.

There is overwhelming evidence for global warming caused by the CO2 that we have added to the atmosphere. Look at what science says. For instance: The case for climate change – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Once again:

Humans have significantly increased the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere in the last 100 years. Do you agree?​

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CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and tends to warm a planet. Do you agree?​

​

The Earth has seen significant rise in temperature as the result of this increased CO2. Do you agree?​

​

If this trend continues, it could have drastic results for the world, and for humans in particular. Do you agree?​

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And you cannot even tell us which statements you agree with and which you don't?

 

[Ceallaigh]

There is overwhelming evidence for global warming caused by the CO2 that we have added to the atmosphere. Look at what science says. For instance: The case for climate change – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Once again:

Humans have significantly increased the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere in the last 100 years. Do you agree?​

​

CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and tends to warm a planet. Do you agree?​

​

The Earth has seen significant rise in temperature as the result of this increased CO2. Do you agree?​

​

If this trend continues, it could have drastic results for the world, and for humans in particular. Do you agree?​

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And you cannot even tell us which statements you agree with and which you don't?

Those who come at me with this, seem to think it's vital that I accept it, with a practically religious fervor. This post of yours is like you're putting me on trial and interrogating me. Reminds me of Perry Mason grilling someone on the witness stand.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Those who come at me with this, seem to think it's vital that I accept it, with a practically religious fervor. This post of yours is like you're putting me on trial and interrogating me. Reminds me of Perry Mason grilling someone on the witness stand.

You could just save yourself the trouble by just giving a simple answer in the negative or positive and say that you'll leave it at that.
That's always an option.

 

[Ceallaigh]

You could just save yourself the trouble by just giving a simple answer in the negative or positive and say that you'll leave it at that.
That's always an option.

Well at least you didn't give me preselected questions to answer. I think climate change is taking place. I think it's a natural trend that's probably being exacerbated by man made C02. I don't think it's as serious as some make out. I think it's being over dramatized for political reasons. It seems like any winter storm or summer heatwave gets dramatized as signs that the world is quickly coming to a catastrophic end. I think too many lay people are way too worked up over it. I think the type of technology that should be taking place in the 21st century anyways, will combat the problems man's contribution has caused.

Isn't this thread supposed to be about dinosaurs becoming birds?

 

[dlamberth]

Those who come at me with this, seem to think it's vital that I accept it, with a practically religious fervor. This post of yours is like you're putting me on trial and interrogating me. Reminds me of Perry Mason grilling someone on the witness stand.

I think that for some of us, we care about what we are leaving our children and grand-children and the children after them. So it comes across like religions fervor.

 

[Ceallaigh]

I think that for some of us, we care about what we are leaving our children and grand-children and the children after them. So it comes across like religions fervor.

Unless we are running major industry, we aren't making much of a difference either way. I think a lot of lay people think they're somehow in some sort of position of power to do something about it, but they're not. The lay people who are climate warriors, are pretty much living the same lifestyle as everyone else. The only way they might make a major contribution is if they all go Amish. But none of them are willing to completely give modern conveniences.

 

[dlamberth]

Unless we are running major industry, we aren't making much of a difference either way. I think a lot of lay people think they're somehow in some sort of position of power to do something about it, but they're not. The lay people who are climate warriors, are pretty much living the same lifestyle as everyone else. The only way they might make a major contribution is if they all go Amish. But none of them are willing to completely give modern conveniences.

Every little bit adds up. If each of us makes a difference in or little world, the world at large will change.

 

[dlamberth]

Every little bit adds up. If each of us makes a difference in or little world, the world at large will change. But again, do we care what we leave our children? Or not!

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Every little bit adds up. If each of us makes a difference in or little world, the world at large will change.

Also, even if it does turn out to be a natural thing, is it bad that we've tried to help the world?

Yes, getting to heaven can be more important for most people, but here and now matters in the here and now.

 

[Frank Robert]

Those who come at me with this, seem to think it's vital that I accept it, with a practically religious fervor. This post of yours is like you're putting me on trial and interrogating me. Reminds me of Perry Mason grilling someone on the witness stand.

No one is say you should except it but when comments are incorrect or don't make sense you should not find it out of the ordinary to be asked for more information such as evidence to back them up.

 

[Ceallaigh]

No one is say you should except it but when comments are incorrect or don't make sense you should not find it out of the ordinary to be asked for more information such as evidence to back them up.

I hadn't gotten that far though. You've been at this long enough to know people leave comments without intending on go any further than that.

 

[Estrid]

I guess it's the trying to prove the Bible is a lie crowd and all their smugness that stands out more, whenever whatever they've been preaching for decades turns out to be incorrect.

You just made up that" Bible is a lie"
thing. It's not real honest to make
things up.
It's not a sane position to say it's a lie
as so much is as obvious as Egypt to
be true.
Also though, a lot is obviously not
true.

"Flood" for example. That's been preached
for millenia, it was false then and its false now.

Smug, and arrogant, describes those who
are so sure their chosen reading is inerrant
and God's perfect truth.