Rancher: Illegal immigrants pour through gap in border wall in Arizona

[HARK!]

People in camouflage walk through his lands with the assurance that they are not likely to be caught as they hoof it for the road near Arivaca to catch a ride east to Tucson. Mr. Chilton said Border Patrol agents have told him that one-fifth of the people crossing his ranch tote drugs.

“I’m outraged,” he said in a telephone interview with The Times. “Bottom line, four, five, six years ago, we were averaging about 130 people every six months [on the images]. Since February, we picked up our cameras just lately, 2,500 images. That’s at least a 10-times increase.”

Rancher: Illegal immigrants pour through gap in border wall in Arizona

Those gaps in the border wall are personal to Jim Chilton, whose grazing lands cover five miles of the U.S.-Mexico border in Arizona, and who sees exactly what pours through the holes.

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[ruthiesea]

Interestingly the Border Patrol says that over 80% of fentanyl smuggled into the US is by America citizens through legal points of entry.

 

[HARK!]

Interestingly the Border Patrol says that over 80% of fentanyl smuggled into the US is by America citizens through legal points of entry.

Is that how much is smuggled; or is that how much was seized? It's a lot easier to to detect it, when you have people standing in line to be questioned, and sniffed by dogs.

 

[Brihaha]

As things get tougher around the world America should expect more immigrants. We really do need congress to reform and enforce our border rules. Each administration has passed this buck onto the next administration without making immigration reform a priority. We should start holding members of congress accountable if we truly want to mitigate illegal immigration.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Is that how much is smuggled; or is that how much was seized? It's a lot easier to to detect it, when you have people standing in line to be questioned, and sniffed by dogs.

Here's a study from the Cato Institute on the subject:

https://www.cato.org/blog/fentanyl-smuggled-us-citizens-us-citizens-not-asylum-seekers

 

[Hank77]

As things get tougher around the world America should expect more immigrants. We really do need congress to reform and enforce our border rules. Each administration has passed this buck onto the next administration without making immigration reform a priority. We should start holding members of congress accountable if we truly want to mitigate illegal immigration.

I think there has been a little movement for reform. There's a farm immigration bill in the Senate that Sen. Bennet (CO) is trying to get passed and to the Pres. by the end of the year. The House has already passed a bill.
But I'm with you this problem needs to be "reformed and enforced" with new border laws. What's happening now is not sustainable for many people, not just ranchers like the one in the OP.

 

[HARK!]

Here's a study from the Cato Institute on the subject:

https://www.cato.org/blog/fentanyl-smuggled-us-citizens-us-citizens-not-asylum-seekers

A blog? Really?

I didn't say anything about asylum seekers. Nice Red herring!

 

[RocksInMyHead]

A blog? Really?

Are you unfamiliar with the Cato Institute? It's generally considered the foremost libertarian think tank.

https://www.cato.org/

I didn't say anything about asylum seekers. Nice Red herring!

Tell me you didn't read the article without telling me you didn't read the article. It says plenty about illegal immigrants.

 

[Torah Keeper]

Interestingly the Border Patrol says that over 80% of fentanyl smuggled into the US is by America citizens through legal points of entry.

Interestingly the Border Patrol is saying they allow 80% of fentanyl into USA on purpose. Hmm.....

 

[Arcangl86]

Interestingly the Border Patrol is saying they allow 80% of fentanyl into USA on purpose. Hmm.....

When did they say that?

 

[Torah Keeper]

When did they say that?

Interestingly the Border Patrol says that over 80% of fentanyl smuggled into the US is by America citizens through legal points of entry.

Right here. Because drugs=$$$$$$$$$$. There is more to the "war on drugs" than what people think.

 

[Arcangl86]

Right here. Because drugs=$$$$$$$$$$. There is more to the "war on drugs" than what people think.

So they never actually said that. Got it.

 

[Torah Keeper]

So they never actually said that. Got it.

So you believe the government. Got it.

 

[Arcangl86]

So you believe the government. Got it.

Nope, I didn't say that. But you are claiming they said something that they not only didn't say but is the opposite of what they said.

 

[Torah Keeper]

Nope, I didn't say that. But you are claiming they said something that they not only didn't say but is the opposite of what they said.

Exactly. They said something that is the complete opposite of the truth. That is called a lie. Politicians, and government agencies do it all the time. Hence my skepticism of every word out of their mouth.

Let's think about this logically. Since we know that fentanyl use is a big problem in USA, they are not intercepting a signifigant portion of it. So the vast majority of fentanyl must be getting past the border. And it is.

And what's more unbelievable, they are blaming the fentanyl crisis on American citizens, saying that somehow those American citizens still manage to sneak in 80% of the fentanyl right under border patrol's noses. Well, if border patrol are missing the fentanyl that is going through secure checkpoints, and that missed at the checkpoints is 80%, how do they know that only 20% is going through the remaining unsecured border? They don't. It's rubbish.

They are letting it in on purpose. Biden's orders. And he takes orders from his boss too.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Exactly. They said something that is the complete opposite of the truth. That is called a lie. Politicians, and government agencies do it all the time. Hence my skepticism of every word out of their mouth.

Let's think about this logically. Since we know that fentanyl use is a big problem in USA, they are not intercepting a signifigant portion of it. So the vast majority of fentanyl must be getting past the border. And it is.

And what's more unbelievable, they are blaming the fentanyl crisis on American citizens, saying that somehow those American citizens still manage to sneak in 80% of the fentanyl right under border patrol's noses. Well, if border patrol are missing the fentanyl that is going through secure checkpoints, and that missed at the checkpoints is 80%, how do they know that only 20% is going through the remaining unsecured border? They don't. It's rubbish.

They are letting it in on purpose. Biden's orders. And he takes orders from his boss too.

I'd tell you where the Conspiracy Theories forum is, but you probably wouldn't believe me.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Interestingly the Border Patrol says that over 80% of fentanyl smuggled into the US is by America citizens through legal points of entry.

Really? How do they know it's 80%?

 

[Ana the Ist]

Oh wait...the Cato Institute.

Libertarians.

Its funny to see them agreeing with the Border Patrol at the beginning....then disagreeing with them at the end.

The same group advocating for decriminalizing drugs and government assistance in addiction treatment is also against government healthcare.

They should ask Portland how decriminalizing drugs has been going.

Libertarians seem like the mirror opposite of communists. They also don't fundamentally understand economics and human nature.