God's creation is more like a Billion years is a day. As I repeatedly say: It took God 12.990 billion years to create Adam and Eve. He was FINISHED with His work 6,000 years ago in Eden. Not 6 days ago as people on here seem to be suggesting. Bishop Ushers wrote a book with almost 2,000 pages that gives us the history of the last 6,000 years.
Do you have a Biology book? Mankind has been around a LOT longer then 6,000 years.
Did you miss my answer to this question? This comes from Carl Sagan and Neil Degrasse Tyson. They are the host of Cosmos. This is a series on PBS. They talk about how we are made of Star Stuff. Why don't you do a google search because they are much better teachers on this subject then I am. What you will find is: "We're made of star stuff," Sagan famously stated in one episode. His statement sums up the fact that the carbon, nitrogen and oxygen atoms in our bodies, as well as atoms of all other heavy elements, were created in previous generations of stars over 4.5 billion years ago." Also I like talking about the Great Oxygen event: "The Great Oxygenation Event (GOE) was the introduction of free oxygen into our atmosphere. It was caused by cyanobacteria doing photosynthesis. It took a very long time, from about three billion years ago to about one billion years ago." Adam and Eve breathed oxygen. The qustion is when did oxygen based life first begin to appear on planet Earth. The point here is the more we study science the better our understanding of the Bible and what God wants us to know. Red is amazing in the rock formations. Just simply amazing.
What verse do you want me to read? How about this verse: "By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work." (Genesis 2:1) This does not say that God created man in a day. He said there was a day when He finished His work. According to Bishop Usher (in his book history of the world) that day was 4004 bc or around 6,000 years ago in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were real people that lived in the Tigris Euphrates river valley. Noah was a real person and his flood was a real flood, just like the ARK was a real boat. There is a very literal aspect to these stores and these people. But a lot of this is symbolic. They call this archetypes or paradigms. Some say: "types". There are people in the Bible that are a "TYPE" of Christ. This is why we need to understand shadows and types in the Bible and what they represent. "These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ." (Col2:7) We can use other words: allegory, metaphor, homiletics, symbol, parable, allusion, and so on. We see that there is a deeper meaning. As children we take things at face value. As we get older we search out the deeper meaning and the mysteries of God so that we have better or greater understanding. Paul said: "God gave me to fully proclaim to you the word of God, the mystery that was hidden for ages and generations but is now revealed to His saints" (Col 1:26) Today like in Paul's day, mystery are being revealed. Daniel says: "Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge." (Daniel 12:4) We have more wisdom, knowledge and understanding then we ever had before".
What is your point? If you want to believe that the sixth day was a literal 24 hour day that is fine. I have no problem with that. If you want to claim that is ALL God is telling us then you still have a lot to learn about our Bible and God's message for us in our Bible. There is a LOT more to God and the Word of God then a superficial reading would reveal. You need to search out the mysteries and the deep wisdom and knowledge of God. As Paul would say: "Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity" (Hebrews 6:1)
This all lends creedence to the theory or theories that I have been stating all along...Do you have a Biology book? Mankind has been around a LOT longer then 6,000 years.
Did you miss my answer to this question? This comes from Carl Sagan and Neil Degrasse Tyson. They are the host of Cosmos. This is a series on PBS. They talk about how we are made of Star Stuff. Why don't you do a google search because they are much better teachers on this subject then I am. What you will find is: "We're made of star stuff," Sagan famously stated in one episode. His statement sums up the fact that the carbon, nitrogen and oxygen atoms in our bodies, as well as atoms of all other heavy elements, were created in previous generations of stars over 4.5 billion years ago." Also I like talking about the Great Oxygen event: "The Great Oxygenation Event (GOE) was the introduction of free oxygen into our atmosphere. It was caused by cyanobacteria doing photosynthesis. It took a very long time, from about three billion years ago to about one billion years ago." Adam and Eve breathed oxygen. The qustion is when did oxygen based life first begin to appear on planet Earth. The point here is the more we study science the better our understanding of the Bible and what God wants us to know. Red is amazing in the rock formations. Just simply amazing.
Notice these are the key words we use: "Star Stuff" & "Great Oxygenation event". This makes it easy to do a google search to research the latest information on this subject. I first began to study Science (Biology) in High School 50 years ago. I read a book at the time called: "The Double Helix" written by Francis Crick. This was about the discovery of DNA. We have learned a lot about DNA in the last 50 years. Today we read Francis Collins books about the "Language of God". He talks about how DNA is the language God uses to create us. This becomes the foundation of Theistic Evolution. Before we had the fossil record. NOW we can supplement that with our understanding of DNA. We have the J haplogroup. J does not stand for "Jewish" but it could. This is the DNA of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. Notice in the chart we see the J1a and the J1g subclade. This is the time frame we need for Adam and Eve 6,000 years ago. The most famious group is what they call the Cohen gene. Again this is a key word that we can us to do a search to find out what the latest information is about the Cohen family. The also call this the Y-chromosomal Aaron because these are the descendants of Aaron.
The Geneologies are in the Bible, all the way from Adam to Jesus, though David. Because Jesus is descended from David. We are told that the Messiah would be a descendant of David. Just this is a study all by itself. I am trying to be as brief as I can because it is not practical to come on here and write a whole book about this. But I could write a whole book on any aspect of this subject.
YOUR question was to show you that it took 12.990 billion years to create Adam. Results from NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) released in February 2003 show that the first stars formed when the universe was only about 200 million years old. Observations by WMAP also revealed that the universe is currently about 13. 7 billion years old.
Genesis 2:7, KJV: "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7, NASB: "Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being."
Where did the "duct of the ground" that we read about in Genesis 2:7 come from? It came from a star that was first formed 13.7 billion years ago according to NASA. I tend to take NASA serious because if they screw up then people are going to die. They have to get it right. They do to have any room or margin for error. They take their work very serious. I actually have a niece that works for NASA and they are paying for her to get her PhD in chemistry.
I will add one more point. Each Element burns at a different color. So they can use a Spectroscope prism to determine what elements are in a star. Spectroscopes are also called spectrographs. It is in the furnace of a star that God created the elements called "duct of the ground" that He used to make Adam and Eve in the Bible.
The Double Helix
God is using the Hasidic Rabbi's to teach the Ancient Hebrew Language we read in our Bible. There are 22 Hebrew letters used in the Bible and each letter is a symbol that has profound meaning. When we understand what the letters in the alphabet represent then we can better understand the meaning of the words that are written with those letters. Also we understand the meaning or definition of a word by the context. Often God will give us a word then He will explain the meaning of that word. We see: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth". We can understand the meaning of the word beginning when we look at the context and how this word is used.
According to Schroeder each day was half the length of the day before. The six 24 hour days of Genesis Chapter One results in an age of the universe from our perspective of 14 billion years [14, 000,000,000 years]. From the Bible’s perspective of time for those six evocative days of Genesis, the number of our years held compressed within each of those six 24 hour days of Genesis, starting with Day One, would be, in billions of years, respectively, 7.1; 3.6; 1.8; 0.89; 0.45; 0.23"
My wife says to do your best and trust God for the rest. All we can do is our best with what we have to work with. God will straighten this all out in Heaven. For now we just do the best we can with what we are given to work with. As Paul says: "For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known". (1cor13:12)
I got the tower of babel wrong, sorry, that occurred after the flood, etc...
When I call up Uber and I look at the map their GPS is without 2 feet of where I am. I can see where I am in my house on the Uber map. This same math is what they use to determine how fast the universe is expanding. The speed of light is not an absolute but it is close enough to the expansion rate of the universe. We can still see a primitive universe at the beginning because the light of that universe is just not getting here. We can do all of this with the Hubble and rather simple trigonometry.
The foundation is still there. God said they would never rebuild that tower or the city. Sadan Hussein tried, but he failed in his attempt. It is very interesting to try to figure out just what God did to confuse the language at the time. The English language today is actually very close to the Ancient Hebrew language.
The Bible does not say what the Bible says? Moses had ALL of God message. ONLY Jesus could add to what Moses received.
Ok, how about this simple logic, if we can see a thing 46.5 billion light years away, (but there is still stuff way beyond even that, that we can't see, etc), (cause it is moving away from us at faster than the speed of light, etc)... anyway, if we can see things "46.5 billion light years away", and therefore have no choice but to see it "46.5 billion years ago", or old, how can the entire universe, (which goes way beyond that limit or limitation of ours) anyway, how can the entire universe be "only 13.8 billion years old", if we are seeing something as being "46.5 billion years old" (that which is that far away, etc)...?
Adam and Eve were real, literal people that lived in a real Garden of Eden on on October 23 4004 BC at 9:00 A.M . From your perspective when was the 7th day that God rested? Do you think that the 7th day was October 24 4004 BC? Did God create Adam and Eve fully formed at what age were they when He created them? Was it after they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that they began to age and die?
