Fruits of the Spirit not Gay

[MercyBurst]

Oh you will, trust me you will, if you haven't already. Just remember that pride comes before a fall....

Pride needs a defense, and I'm not defending anything. So can you clarify that post that implies I should not want God's best in my life?

 

[eastcoast_bsc]

How does a gay person lead me to Christ?

Who is being malicious? I don't see the fruit. Show it to me.

Why does anyone need to show you anything. You do not come as a man of peace or a friend. You come to judge. You might not see the fruit because you have blinders on. maybe the beam in your eye obstructs your vision.

 

[sampson x]

STOP. Please.

We've gotten to the point where the subject is no longer important and we're all at each others throats trying to trip each other up. If we're not doing that we're competing as to who is more holy. This is obviously not helping us or the subject in any way. I suggest we just drop this thread completely.

Good idea. Good bye everyone. See ya around on different threads.

Especially since no one seems to be responding to my posts anymore.

 

[MrsJoy]

Oh you will, trust me you will, if you haven't already. Just remember that pride comes before a fall....

actually, the scripture says that pride comes before destruction and a haughty look before a fall
not that it's a huge difference.

 

[catlover]

Ok...um...we need to stop saying that this thread is bashing gays. If we made a thread about the evils of drunkardness, no one would accuse us of "bashing" those people who are more susceptible to drinking problems. We're not bashing gays, we're debating whether or not their homosexual practices are sinful or not.

No, this thread is about gays not having the fruit of the spirit.

 

[WalkingforHim]

we're debating whether or not their homosexual practices are sinful or not.

Debating homosexuality is one thing.

Starting a thread saying that all homosexual lack the fruits of the holy spirit is bashing, and is a sign of deepseated hatred in the heart of the OPer.

Pride needs a defense, and I'm not defending anything.

You're defending yourself and your pride.

 

[MercyBurst]

Why does anyone need to show you anything. You do not come as a man of peace or a friend. You come to judge. You might not see the fruit because you have blinders on. maybe the beam in your eye obstructs your vision.

I'm looking at Jesus. I guess that makes you feel uncomfortable.

In the bible, does Jesus command me to be gay?

 

[eastcoast_bsc]

Thus the wisdom of my earlier posted definition has come to pass, yet no one listened:

In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others

 

[MercyBurst]

Debating homosexuality is one thing.

Starting a thread saying that all homosexual lack the fruits of the holy spirit is bashing, and is a sign of deepseated hatred in the heart of the OPer.



You're defending yourself and your pride.

Actually, I believe you are defending your own lifestyle. I don't hear you or any other gay person proclaiming Jesus. As I said before -- I'm not seeing fruit. Fruit of the spirit leads me and others to Christ.

 

[davedjy]

I'm looking at Jesus. I guess that makes you feel uncomfortable.

In the bible, does Jesus command me to be gay?

No, but He doesn't command you to be straight either.

Homosexuals fall into about 1% of the population.

You weren't special enough...

 

[MercyBurst]

Thus the wisdom of my earlier posted definition has come to pass, yet no one listened:

In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others

Well you were asked a simple question -- to show a gay person with the fruits of the spirit and after 200 something posts it hasn't happened.

 

[MercyBurst]

No, but He doesn't command you to be straight either.

Homosexuals fall into about 1% of the population.

You weren't special enough...

Well he does have something to say about marriage and divorce. I have obeyed thus far.

 

[davedjy]

Actually, I believe you are defending your own lifestyle. I don't hear you or any other gay person proclaiming Jesus. As I said before -- I'm not seeing fruit. Fruit of the spirit leads me and others to Christ.

28 Protestant Christian denominations proclaim Jesus and condone homosexuality. So yes, I guess you don't know that is possible to be gay AND Christian.

See gaychristian.net -- and there are plenty of other Scripture interpretations.

 

[davedjy]

Well he does have something to say about marriage and divorce. I have obeyed thus far.

K, if you are so fruitful, what do you have to prove to others? would Jesus want you to "flaunt" your fruitfulness?

 

[MercyBurst]

28 Protestant Christian denominations proclaim Jesus and condone homosexuality. So yes, I guess you don't know that is possible to be gay AND Christian.

See gaychristian.net -- and there are plenty of other Scripture interpretations.

I'm not looking at other people. Other people don't save me. I'm looking at Jesus. Jesus saves me.

 

[MercyBurst]

K, if you are so fruitful, what do you have to prove to others? would Jesus want you to "flaunt" your fruitfulness?

My show is to an audience of one: Jesus.

What you or someone else thinks about me doesn't help me enter heaven.

I don't get to heaven "by comparison" to someone else.

 

[davedjy]

I'm not looking at other people. Other people don't save me. I'm looking at Jesus. Jesus saves me.

So am I, and by you telling me I am not fruitful, that isn't saying much about your own fruitfulness...

As my Worship Leader just said to me today, that I am very sensitive to the leading of the Holy Spirit in Worship. People like you confirm why I have been set free from false doctrine, thank you for confirming once again.

 

[MercyBurst]

So am I, and by you telling me I am not fruitful, that isn't saying much about your own fruitfulness...

As my Worship Leader just said to me today, that I am very sensitive to the leading of the Holy Spirit in Worship. People like you confirm why I have been set free from false doctrine, thank you for confirming once again.

The Holy Spirit Leads in our worship service as well. We had 400 people there today. I do not claim my musicianship as a fruit of the spirit. Fruits of the spirit are on the inside. Perhaps a reading of Ephesians....

The Holy Spirit is not the author of division, so I must choose a side. I chose what God wants for me.

 

[davedjy]

And this attitude leads people to Christ?

The Holy Spirit Leads in our worship service as well. We had 400 people there today. I do not claim my musicianship as a fruit of the spirit. Fruits of the spirit are on the inside.

What attitude?

 

[catlover]

Well you were asked a simple question -- to show a gay person with the fruits of the spirit and after 200 something posts it hasn't happened.

I did and you ignored the post.

Your agenda is showing.