For Catholics only: Homosexuals and the pedophilia scandal

[PetertheRock]

This is one of the best articles I have read on this issue, and it is the one reason I believe homosexuals should not become priests...

In the May issue of Homiletic and Pastoral Review is an article written by Brian W. Clowes and David L. Sonnier titled "Child Molestation by Homosexual and Heterosexuals". The article is an effort to get some truth and understanding out regarding the clerical sex abuse crisis, including refutation of those homosexual groups that deny any linkage between active homosexuality and child molestation. In fact, the link is very well documented per references in the article. In addition to shedding more accurate light on the clerical sex abuse crisis, further insight may be gained as to how a homosexual subculture feeds itself in the creation of new victims and why we must be vigilant in not allowing homosexual propoganda to be taught or demonstrated to school children of any age.

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References in the article:

1) From "The Kinsey Data":

"Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent sexual researcher in the history of sexual research, found in 1948 that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old."

2) From "Fraternal Birth Order and Sexual Orientation in Pedophiles":

"A very recent (2000) study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 'The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer men. In contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children perfer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 6-20 times higher among pedophiles.' "

3) From "Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women":

"Another 2000 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 'all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories for sexual activity.' These age categories were fifteen and twenty years old."

4) From "Pedophiles: Mental Retardation, Maternal Age, and Sexual Orientation":

"Yet another recent study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior fond that 'Pedophilia appears to have a greater than chance association with two other statistically infrequent phenomena. The first of these is homosexuality...Recent surveys estimate the prevalence of homosexuality, among men attracted to adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In contrast, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles may be as high as 30-40%.' "

5) From "Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference":

"A 1989 study in the Journal of Sex Research noted that 'the proportion of sex offenders against male children among homosexual men is substantially larger than the proportion of sex offenders against female children among heterosexual men...the development of pedophilia is more closely linked with homosexuality than with heterosexuality.' "

6) From "Behavior Patterns of Child Molestors":

"A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual."

7) From "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality":

"In a 1984 Jounal of Sex and Marital Therapy article, sex researchers found that 'The proportional prevalence of [male] offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent.' "

8) From "The Gay Report: Lesbians and Gay Men Speak Out About Sexual Experiences and Lifestyles":

"Homosexual activists Karla Jay and Allen Young revealed in their 1979 Gay Report that 73% of all homosexuals have acted as 'chicken hawks' - that is, they have preyed on adolescent or younger boys."

9) From "The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study":

"In a 1992 study published in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, sex researchers K. Freud and R.I. Watson found that homosexual males are three times more likely than straight men to engage in pedophilia, and that the average pedophile victimizes between 20 and 150 boys before being arrested."

10) From "Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women":

"A study by sex researchers Alan Bell and Marin Weinberg found that 25% of white homosexual men have had sex with boys sixteen years and younger."

 

[PetertheRock]

Here are a few more articles worth reading...

http://www.afajournal.org/archives/23060000011.asp
http://www.fathersforlife.org/dale/sexabuse.html
http://www.narth.com/docs/pedophNEW.html

 

[PetertheRock]

Some more articles...

In the current issue of the Christian Research Journal (volume 28/number 02, page 36) it states the following regarding pedophilia and homosexuality.

"The connect between homosexual and pedophilia has long haunded the public consciousness. In response, the gay lobby--as well as important bodies such as the American Psychological Association (APA) --insist that there is no evidence that gays commit pedophilia at a higher rate than do straights.

The argument runs that, on a hand count, cases of hetersexual pedophilia outnumber those of homosexual pedophilia; however, as Yale and Harvard-connected psychiatrist Jeffrey Satinover points out,

Cafeful studies show that pedophilia is far more common among homosexuals. The greater absolute number of heterosexuals cases reflects the fact that heterosexual males outnumber homosexual males by approximately thrity-six to one. Heterosexual child molestation cases outnumber homosexual cases by only eleven to one, implying that pedophilia is more than three times more common among homosexuals."

This is another great article on this site...
http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=0405-skuba

And another seperate article...

THE ELEPHANT IN THE CHURCH

2/17/200510:21:00 PM
By Fr. Charles Dahlby


As a Catholic priest I have an investment in issues that affect the Church and the people of God and as a Christian I have an obligation to speak out. So let me make the following points as clearly as I can:

1. Most of the scandals and evils we see in the Church today are brought about primarily by homosexuality. Homosexuality is an objective moral disorder and unacceptable in the priesthood! For nearly two thousand years the teaching of the scripture, the magisterium, and Tradition, the three sources of revelation which give us truth, have all agreed. on homosexuality as an “abomination”! Only recently have Phil and Oprah and a few TV sitcoms disagreed. But God doesn’t change and Phil and Oprah won’t be on the throne to judge us!

2. Even though Church documents forbid the acceptance of homosexuals into the seminary and their ordination to the priesthood, those in authority have for years looked the other way, (Don’t ask, don’t tell) and homosexuals have flocked into the Church. Now they have positions of authority! They use this authority to protect and promote one another creating a distinct sub-culture that is rapidly becoming dominant. This sub-culture is the ideal homosexual environment. As a priest no one questions why you aren’t married. You get respect that you never earned. You have a target-rich environment, especially if you have a school, and if you slip up and get caught the civil authorities will not want to prosecute you because you’re a priest and, as we have seen, the Church will cover you, defend you, and may set you up in another parish or even another diocese so you can continue to prey on God’s people. A homosexual predator could not hope to find a more friendly and supportive environment than priesthood in the American Catholic Church!

3. The phrase “An elephant in the room” is used in group dynamics to mean that there is an issue of great importance that is being carefully avoided. The fact that the leadership of the Church so obviously refuses to deal honestly with homosexuality in its midst is a proof of its very powerful presence and authority. The effort expended on avoiding the obvious truth is evidence that gross ignorance cannot explain this blindness, only a conscious and premeditated effort to avoid what is so clear! Because it is done with awareness, it crosses the line from human weakness to genuine malignant evil!

4. To those who try to avoid the truth and hide behind some phony facade such as “addiction” or claim the answer will be found in a

good workshop on chastity are either fools or liars. Get a few old diocesan directories and a magic marker and go through them: How many heterosexual priests died of Aids? How many heterosexual priests have been pedophiles? How many heterosexual priests have been a source of sex scandals? (Only a small percentage of these ever reach the newspapers!) How much money have heterosexual priests cost the Church in lawsuits, pay-offs and cover-ups?

5. Many priests are aware of homosexuals in the priesthood, but they do not have the spirituality or the courage to confront the issue, so they lapse into a false charity that is nothing more than an excuse for doing nothing. (A response that Jesus did not allow!) Or they try to wash their hands of anything outside their parish boundaries. Also not allowed!)

Worst of all are those priests who know what evil is occurring, do nothing, and actually console themselves with the absurd idea that they are serving the Church. They have been formed by a seminary system that is designed to produce “churchmen” not saints. These neo-pharisees have confused the “means” with the “end” and have made the Church an idol! They have been perfectly willing to sacrifice truth, innocence and even the souls of Gods children as long as they keep up the facade. It is a sick and perverted illusion of love that would allow a priest to stand by silently while his brother destroys his own soul and the souls of others! These people must surely tremble at the thought of God’s judgment!

continue reading by clicking on the link below



http://catholiccitizens.org/press/pressview.asp?c=23002

 

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MOD NOTE:

This thread was moved to the "denomination specific ethics" subforum of Christian Philosophy and Ethics. (wow, that's a mouthful!). This thread is for Catholics only. Threads are moved here so that topics mentioned in Rule 4.2 can be discussed by members of the same denomination/church.

 

[Maynard Keenan]

A man being attracted to boys doesn't make him gay. Most child molesters are otherwsie straight, usually married. They do not have a blanet attraction to males, they have a sick perverted attraction to young boys. Being gay (attracted to adults of your sex) doesn't correlate with being attracted to children of your own sex.

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

1) From "The Kinsey Data":

"Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent sexual researcher in the history of sexual research, found in 1948 that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old."

The question doesn't help us. Two sixteen year olds having sex with each other would say yes to that question. If we ask them thirty years later, they would say "Yes, I did have sex with a sixteen year old at one time, but I was sixteen myself then."

3) From "Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women":

"Another 2000 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 'all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories for sexual activity.' These age categories were fifteen and twenty years old."

What were the preferences of the heterosexual males?

4) From "Pedophiles: Mental Retardation, Maternal Age, and Sexual Orientation":

"Yet another recent study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior fond that 'Pedophilia appears to have a greater than chance association with two other statistically infrequent phenomena. The first of these is homosexuality...Recent surveys estimate the prevalence of homosexuality, among men attracted to adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In contrast, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles may be as high as 30-40%.' "

Picks most extreme numbers in the ranges in order to maximize disparity.

7) From "Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality":

"In a 1984 Jounal of Sex and Marital Therapy article, sex researchers found that 'The proportional prevalence of [male] offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent.' "

Doesn't check offenders description of their sexual orientation.

10) From "Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women":

"A study by sex researchers Alan Bell and Marin Weinberg found that 25% of white homosexual men have had sex with boys sixteen years and younger."

See comments on #1.

I didn't comment on the other studies because I would need to look at their methodology further and I don't have access to them.