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moses916 said:are you a scholar in this subject? what makes your article true? do you have any experience in a sacremental church?
Since the term never appears in the Bible, it's not surprising they are never numerated in the Bible.
QuantaCura said:Has anyone read Scott Hahn's "Swear to God"?
I haven't, but I have seen his series of lectures on EWTN about it. I think it's a good read for someone who wants to understand what the sacraments/mysteries are all about.
holeinone said:When we see that Christ actually "instituted" all of them, and that He said their purpose was to give grace I think we can have a serious discussion on them.
Until then I will see the Lords Supper and Baptism as ordinances/ or sacraments of the church which we are commanded to obey and all the others as simply man made rituals
QuantaCura said:Why was Jesus concerned with ordinances? Didn't He know it was all about a personal relationship?
They are to bring to our remembrance what He has done for us.
Baptism and the Lords table remind us of the completed work of Christ.
Lynn73 said:In answer to the OP, my opinion is no.
that was nasty.Ah Lynn, you're so dependable. We can always count on you to throw your 2 cents in on any thread criticising the Catholic Church.
Veritas said:Ah Lynn, you're so dependable. We can always count on you to throw your 2 cents in on any thread criticising the Catholic Church.
Veritas said:Ah Lynn, you're so dependable. We can always count on you to throw your 2 cents in on any thread criticising the Catholic Church.
God has always instituted memorials for those things that are completed work.
They are to bring to our remembrance what He has done for us.
Baptism and the Lords table remind us of the completed work of Christ.
Oblio said:You have equivocated the two terms above. This is not what remembrance meant to those who lived in the Greek culture in ancient Palestine. To impress your modern definition in a Western culture to an Eastern culture 2000 years ago leads to misconception and error.