A Catholic group outraged at Biden claiming to be Catholic but promoting abortion

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Poll: Catholics Now Lean Toward Donald Trump over Joe Biden

U.S. Catholics now lean toward former President Donald Trump over President Joe Biden, according to a Pew Research poll, released on Tuesday.

www.breitbart.com

He says you cannot be Catholic and promote death (words to that effect).

I've been saying that for decades

If the following (from the site) is not "promoting abortion" (which Catholics are forbidden to do and all are forbidden by GOD to do)

i don't know what is

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In April, Biden launched a seven-figure ad buy in Arizona about abortion, and he has continued to speak out against Florida’s continued efforts to protect unborn human life — notably, the six-week abortion ban, which has gone into effect following a ruling from the Florida Supreme Court, upholding the 15-week abortion ban.

 

[Fantine]

I find Breitbart to be an unreliable source. But I certainly find it sad that regular churchgoers are more likely to choose Trump--who, in a Time Magazine interview, planned to violate human rights, deport every undocumented immigrant, put them in detention camps, go after innocent (and obviously principled) people he sees as his enemies, etc. Trump, who, like an un-Robin Hood, steals from the poor to give to the rich, who thinks people on the minimum wage are overpaid, who cuts benefits for the poor and middle class (and who would eliminate programs like the ACA altogether if he had the chance.) What in the world do they learn from church? If I went to a church that was promoting cruelty and human rights violations, I'd leave and ask for my money back.

I find it even sadder that atheists are better judges of human character than Christians.

I would not buy a car from anyone with such a lack of character. I wouldn't get into an Uber, use a mechanic, have my lawn mowed, etc. from a person so devoid of ethics and integrity.

I guess the atheists are clear-eyed. They see the big picture. These clergymen who are preaching to misled choirs are looking at the pictures of Biden and Trump and pointing to a little ink spot at the bottom of Biden's while looking at the chaotic disaster of Trump's picture and telling them it is a work of abstract art.

 

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I ... find it sad that regular churchgoers are more likely to choose Trump--who, in a Time Magazine interview, planned to violate human rights, deport every undocumented immigrant, put them in detention camps, go after innocent (and obviously principled) people he sees as his enemies,

You've been SO misinformed. And something like 140 million Americans apparently agree with me (a guess at the # of those supporting T over B)

You trust TIME magazine!?

Wow... unbelievable

 

[Fantine]

TIME Magazine has transcripts--and I have eyes, ears, and good judgment.

Who says 140--less than half of our population--million are right.

Half the U.S. was wrong during the Civil.War.

 

[AlexB23]

TIME Magazine has transcripts--and I have eyes, ears, and good judgment.

Who says 140--less than half of our population--million are right.

Half the U.S. was wrong during the Civil.War.

Agreed. While I am pro-life, abortions could be used in case of incest and assault, or where both mother and baby are at risk.

Says so right on my profile here: "Pro-life for every life stage from age 0 to the elderly (except for in cases where both mother and baby will both pass), for cheap renewable energy, for free unbiased news, for a community-based society, against fascism, etc..."

 

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Agreed. While I am pro-life, abortions could be used in case of incest and assault, or where both mother and baby are at risk.

Children who had ZERO to do with how their lives came about

should suffer for the crimes of their parent(s) by being mutilated and tossed in the trash?

That offends my sense of JUSTICE and peace

 

[AlexB23]

Children who had ZERO to do with how their lives came about

should suffer for the crimes of their parent(s) by being mutilated and tossed in the trash?

That offends my sense of JUSTICE and peace

Well, it would be nice to ban all abortions, but that would get too much pushback from the left, so a compromise has to be made (rape, incest and equal risk to mother and child). Maybe scientists need to pour money into artificial wombs, to safely extract the fetus and grow it in a mechanical womb.

Could artificial wombs end the abortion debate (2005):

https://digitalcommons.lmu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1109&context=phil_fac

 

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Well, it would be nice to ban all abortions, but that would get too much pushback from the left, so a compromise has to be made (rape, incest and equal risk to mother and child). Maybe scientists need to pour money into artificial wombs, to safely extract the fetus and grow it in a mechanical womb.

Could artificial wombs end the abortion debate (2005):

https://digitalcommons.lmu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1109&context=phil_fac

I don't know what, if anything, is being done aboutsaving ectopic babies. But you know, I am not so sure that banning all abortions would necessarily hurt the R party.

Look how far Trump is ahead of B! Americans do not love legalized abortion half as much as the left say.

Trump is ahead by significant numbers despite his opponent essentially loving legalized abortion

 

[AlexB23]

I don't know what, if anything, is being done aboutsaving ectopic babies. But you know, I am not so sure that banning all abortions would necessarily hurt the R party.

Look how far Trump is ahead of B! Americans do not love legalized abortion half as much as the left say.

Trump is ahead by significant numbers despite his opponent essentially loving legalized abortion

Well, Trump is only ahead by a small percentage (+1% point), according to 538.

Info from: National : President: general election : 2024 Polls

 

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Well, Trump is only ahead by a small percentage (+1% point), according to 538.

Info from: National : President: general election : 2024 Polls

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I've seen polls where he is significantly ahead. And if you are pro life as you say, I don't see why you don't vote pro life. What issue is more important than life or death?

 

[AlexB23]

I've seen polls where he is significantly ahead. And if you are pro life as you say, I don't see why you don't vote pro life. What issue is more important than life or death?

Well, I have two evils to choose from: Biden and Trump. Catholic in name only vs. guy under trial. I'd rather choose the one who is not a criminal

 

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Well, I have two evils to choose from: Biden and Trump. Catholic in name only vs. guy under trial. I'd rather choose the one who is not a criminal

You must not be following the fake trials? There is NO crime in any of them, thus far. You are doing what the left wants, exactly: figuring that Trump must be guilty of something or he wouldn't have all these trials. That's exactly why they are doing these things--to get VoTEs. I have listened to many different lawyers speak on these cases and they all come across as though it's all baloney I believe them. They know the law and besides, when you read up on the cases, you don't even have to be a lawyer to get it.. that the case are indeed bogus.

Besides, even if one of the cases is decided by the leftist judge or jury against Trump... it nevertheless remains:

Trump is pro life

Biden, the fake Catholic (while the Catholic Church is supposed to excommunicate people who promote abortion), is in favor of as many abortions as possible.

There is no more important issue than life or death

 

[AlexB23]

You must not be following the fake trials? There is NO crime in any of them, thus far. You are doing what the left wants, exactly: figuring that Trump must be guilty of something or he wouldn't have all these trials. That's exactly why they are doing these things--to get VoTEs. I have listened to many different lawyers speak on these cases and they all come across as though it's all baloney I believe them. They know the law and besides, when you read up on the cases, you don't even have to be a lawyer to get it.. that the case are indeed bogus.

Besides, even if one of the cases is decided by the leftist judge or jury against Trump... it nevertheless remains:

Trump is pro life

Biden, the fake Catholic (while the Catholic Church is supposed to excommunicate people who promote abortion), is in favor of as many abortions as possible.

There is no more important issue than life or death

Well, Trump killed people also, albeit, indirectly. We can both agree that both sides have killed people: Death Toll Associated With Trump Administration Goes Beyond Covid-19, Says Lancet Report

 

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Well, Trump killed people also, albeit, indirectly. We can both agree that both sides have killed people: Death Toll Associated With Trump Administration Goes Beyond Covid-19, Says Lancet Report

Wow... are you hopeless?

I mean, you don't sound pro life to me at all. And more died under Biden than Trump of Covid. Trump did all he could.

I guess human life is just another political issue or something, some abstract concept

 

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Well, I have two evils to choose from: Biden and Trump. Catholic in name only vs. guy under trial. I'd rather choose the one who is not a criminal

good, then you will be voting for Trump

 

[AlexB23]

good, then you will be voting for Trump

Nope. Rather vote for the pimple on my skin over that guy.

 

[discombobulated1]

Nope. Rather vote for the pimple on my skin over that guy.

so much for being pro life

I don't consider you that

 

[AlexB23]

so much for being pro life

I don't consider you that

Well, if I could, I would vote for a DFLA member, a pro-life democrat: 2024 Whole Life Agenda - Democrats For Life of America

 

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Well, if I could, I would vote for a DFLA member, a pro-life democrat: 2024 Whole Life Agenda - Democrats For Life of America

I wish I could fly

w/o getting into an airplane, esp one made by Boeing

 

[Fantine]

You must not be following the fake trials? There is NO crime in any of them, thus far. You are doing what the left wants, exactly: figuring that Trump must be guilty of something or he wouldn't have all these trials. That's exactly why they are doing these things--to get VoTEs. I have listened to many different lawyers speak on these cases and they all come across as though it's all baloney I believe them. They know the law and besides, when you read up on the cases, you don't even have to be a lawyer to get it.. that the case are indeed bogus.

Besides, even if one of the cases is decided by the leftist judge or jury against Trump... it nevertheless remains:

Trump is pro life

Biden, the fake Catholic (while the Catholic Church is supposed to excommunicate people who promote abortion), is in favor of as many abortions as possible.

There is no more important issue than life or death

Have you heard Trump on abortion lately? He wants to leave it up to the states. He wants it to go away.