SC Senate Passes Bill Banning Affirmative Care For Minors

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South Carolina has joined 24 other states in banning affirmative therapy and/or puberty blockers.for.minors. This bill.also prevents schools from hiding a kids desire to be trans in the school. This is all great news.

We are slowly winning this battle to protect kids from harm.

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The bill bars health professionals from performing gender-transition surgeries, prescribing puberty blockers and overseeing hormone treatments for patients under 18.

School principals or vice principals would have to notify parents or guardians if a child wanted to use a name other than their legal one, or a nickname or pronouns that did not match their sex assigned at birth.

It's pretty obvious the author is a leftist with a left wing bias but that's to be expected these days from journalists. Sex isn't assigned. Sex is. No doctor assigns sex, it's a biological reality. I also wonder how much the author left out regarding how this bill came to be. What research was used. What information was used in order to pass this bill. Did anyone testify in support or opposition to the bill and what did they say?

This is great news indeed.

 

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South Carolina has joined 24 other states in banning affirmative therapy and/or puberty blockers.for.minors. This bill.also prevents schools from hiding a kids desire to be trans in the school. This is all great news.

We are slowly winning this battle to protect kids from harm.

From rhe article.

The bill bars health professionals from performing gender-transition surgeries, prescribing puberty blockers and overseeing hormone treatments for patients under 18.

School principals or vice principals would have to notify parents or guardians if a child wanted to use a name other than their legal one, or a nickname or pronouns that did not match their sex assigned at birth.

It's pretty obvious the author is a leftist with a left wing bias but that's to be expected these days from journalists. Sex isn't assigned. Sex is. No doctor assigns sex, it's a biological reality. I also wonder how much the author left out regarding how this bill came to be. What research was used. What information was used in order to pass this bill. Did anyone testify in support or opposition to the bill and what did they say?

This is great news indeed.

If we could get them to outlaw cancer, that’d be great!
 
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If we could get them to outlaw cancer, that’d be great!
I'm pretty sure giving cancer to children is already against the law. Although I can imagine woke liberalism trying to repeal that considering how insane it's gotten.
 
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I'm pretty sure giving cancer to children is already against the law. Although I can imagine woke liberalism trying to repeal that considering how insane it's gotten.
I meant, that if they could eliminate a disorder just by outlawing the treatments for it until the sufferers turn 18 years of age, they could do something useful with power such as that.
 
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I meant, that if they could eliminate a disorder just by outlawing the treatments for it until the sufferers turn 18 years of age, they could do something useful with power such as that.
You know of course that the concern is in the treatment being more harmful than the disorder. As has been the case history with several treatments that were abandoned and or outlawed.
 
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You know of course that the concern is in the treatment being more harmful than the disorder. As has been the case history with several treatments that were abandoned and or outlawed.
Because, as everyone knows, the most qualified person to determine whether a medical treatment is harmful or not is a politician.

-- A2SG, that's why everyone trusts politicians to make all their medical decisions for them.....
 
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Because, as everyone knows, the most qualified person to determine whether a medical treatment is harmful or not is a politician.

-- A2SG, that's why everyone trusts politicians to make all their medical decisions for them.....
Nobody knows what the longterm effects will be. The only way to find out is to literally experiment on children and wait for the results ten to twenty years later.
 
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Nobody knows what the longterm effects will be.
That's why we should trust people who never went to medical school to evaluate the best course of medical treatment for our children.

But seriously, when has "we must be 100% absolutely certain this will work" ever been the standard for a medical procedure? Never, except for now when there are no better arguments against something Fox News tells us we need to be very very upset at, because otherwise how would they distract us from the failings of the GOP to govern?
 
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That's why we should trust people who never went to medical school to evaluate the best course of medical treatment for our children.

But seriously, when has "we must be 100% absolutely certain this will work" ever been the standard for a medical procedure? Never, except for now when there are no better arguments against something Fox News tells us we need to be very very upset at, because otherwise how would they distract us from the failings of the GOP to govern?
It is this is too radical and the risks are too great, rather than "we must be 100% absolutely certain this will work".
 
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I believe there are certain elective procedures that should not be done for children or young adults until they have full brain development (around age 25) to make those decisions for themselves. And I think morals dictate that there are things I think should not be done at all.

That said, there is a question for me about how involved I want government involved in making health care decisions. Personally, I think it is fine for .gov to say, "we won't pay for these procedures" (i.e. Medicaid, Medicare, a national health plan if we had one), but do I want them to dictate what happens between by doctor and me in his office? No. (And, yet, we still pat ourselves on the back for living in a "free" country?)

What if .gov said we don't believe people should put metal in their bodies. That is not how God designed us so we aren't going to do hip and knee replacements anymore. Would we be happy with that? Me, not so much.

Moral issues aside, I would like the party of less government to give us less government, or we simply aren't as free as we fantasize ourselves to be.
 
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This looks to be an opinion masquerading as a fact.
There are no facts yet. The only way to establish fact regarding outcome, is to perform radical experiments on children and see how they turn out ten to twenty years later.
 
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I believe there are certain elective procedures that should not be done for children or young adults until they have full brain development (around age 25) to make those decisions for themselves. And I think morals dictate that there are things I think should not be done at all.

That said, there is a question for me about how involved I want government involved in making health care decisions. Personally, I think it is fine for .gov to say, "we won't pay for these procedures" (i.e. Medicaid, Medicare, a national health plan if we had one), but do I want them to dictate what happens between by doctor and me in his office? No. (And, yet, we still pat ourselves on the back for living in a "free" country?)

What if .gov said we don't believe people should put metal in their bodies. That is not how God designed us so we aren't going to do hip and knee replacements anymore. Would we be happy with that? Me, not so much.

Moral issues aside, I would like the party of less government to give us less government, or we simply aren't as free as we fantasize ourselves to be.
There's already been laws in place for decades prohibiting certain treatments and procedures that were deemed too harmful or potentially too harmful. There's nothing new about it.
 
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Nobody knows what the longterm effects will be. The only way to find out is to literally experiment on children and wait for the results ten to twenty years later.
The same can be said about every single medical treatment, ever.

The fact is, some patients do come away from transgender medical treatment with a negative outcome. Many don't. Quite a few enjoy a far better life because of this treatment.

No matter what the possible outcome, though, the best way to get optimal treatment is with a trained and qualified medical professional, who actually knows and directly treats that specific patient.

No politician can provide that.

-- A2SG, certainly not with any form of legislation....
 
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We are slowly winning this battle to protect kids from harm
For a minute there I was hopeful.

Then I remembered you are not talking about gun violence, the biggest harm to our children.
 
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For a minute there I was hopeful.

Then I remembered you are not talking about gun violence, the biggest harm to our children.
Abortion has killed more children than anything else.
 
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The same can be said about every single medical treatment, ever.

The fact is, some patients do come away from transgender medical treatment with a negative outcome. Many don't. Quite a few enjoy a far better life because of this treatment.

No matter what the possible outcome, though, the best way to get optimal treatment is with a trained and qualified medical professional, who actually knows and directly treats that specific patient.

No politician can provide that.

-- A2SG, certainly not with any form of legislation....
Those patients have been adults. It's whole different situation starting it out on children. Politicians represent the public interest. Looking at all the bizarre cosmetic changes that doctors perform on hundreds, it's obvious many are all too happy to do weird and unnecessary things to people. Should those procedures be performed on children as well?
 
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Those patients have been adults. It's whole different situation starting it out on children.
Politicians represent the public interest. Looking at all the bizarre cosmetic changes that doctors perform on hundreds, it's obvious many are all too happy to do weird and unnecessary things to people. Should those procedures be performed on children as well?
What I said applies to all patients, regardless of age or any other factors.

-- A2SG, dunno why you place more trust in politicians than doctors, though...
 
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