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No one has ever suggested that Mary was mother to God the Father or God the Holy Spirit. We are only ever speaking of Jesus, God the Son. There is a simple concept known as context which seems too difficult a concept for some. We can speak of God as the Trinity, we can speak of God as the Father, we can speak of God as the Son and we can speak of God as the Holy Spirit. Context usually makes it clear which we are referring to when we make reference to God. When talking about Mary as the mother of God, we are clearly talking about her Son, Jesus Christ, who is God the Son. We call Mary, mother of God, because her Son IS God. Her Son is also human BECAUSE He is the Son of a human woman.Not the Father nor the Holy Spirit, as she was Mother to the humanity of Jesus, not His deity!
No one has ever suggested that Mary was mother to God the Father or God the Holy Spirit. We are only ever speaking of Jesus, God the Son. There is a simple concept known as context which seems too difficult a concept for some. We can speak of God as the Trinity, we can speak of God as the Father, we can speak of God as the Son and we can speak of God as the Holy Spirit. Context usually makes it clear which we are referring to when we make reference to God. When talking about Mary as the mother of God, we are clearly talking about her Son, Jesus Christ, who is God the Son. We call Mary, mother of God, because her Son IS God. Her Son is also human BECAUSE He is the Son of a human woman.
I'm guessing you also have some strange idea that mothers create their children?
A mother is a woman who carries a child in their womb. A mother is a woman who gives birth to their child. A mother is a woman who nurses their child through infancy. Mary did all of that to a person who is eternal God. She became His mother then and remains His mother for all eternity.
Mary absolutely did the will of His Father. After Christ, she is the primary example of living in obedience to God. You are also implicitly claiming that Jesus broke one of the 10 commandments, "Honour your father and your mother".Except when Jesus denied her. Matthew 12:46-50, "While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”
He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
It means Scripture Alone but you have to understand what is meant by that. And you don't want to do so.
Your reply reminds me of the way that some non-Protestants dissect the term Sola Fide. Oh, they say, "that says Faith Alone, so it MUST mean that we aren't expected to do any good works: they're are unnecessary and possibly even wrong to do because we've got Faith!"
So, they ignore the context when it comes to Sola Fide and give the same retort that you give with regard to Sola Scriptura.
Protestants complain about saying Mary the Mother of God makes it sound like she is above God, or preexisted him, however why wouldn't that be the same issue with saying "Mary the mother of Jesus"? Wouldn't that mean she is above him or preexisted Jesus? Unless they view Jesus to be of lesser value than God, which they actually are suggesting if we follow their logic rubric.
Well, there are so many protestants and each of them describe sola scriptura and sola fide differently.
That's right. She gave birth to "Him", a person. Do you agree that this person she gave birth to is God?she gave birth to Him.
Hence the name Mary Mother of God. EL Madre de DiosMary is the mother of a person. She is not the mother of some flesh. The person she is the mother of is God.
SO Mary didn't do God's will? Oh wait she did.Except when Jesus denied her. Matthew 12:46-50, "While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”
He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
I think there's some question what you mean by "Jesus." Is there a distinction between Jesus and the Logos? I think de facto a lot of people use Jesus to refer to Christ's human existence, and Christ when the reference is broader.That's right. She gave birth to "Him", a person. Do you agree that this person she gave birth to is God?
I think there's some question what you mean by "Jesus." Is there a distinction between Jesus and the Logos? I think de facto a lot of people use Jesus to refer to Christ's human existence, and Christ when the reference is broader.
She is His mother. Adding descriptives like "biological" would seem nonsensical as well as being unscriptural.I think it's fair to say that Mary was the mother of the human being and God in different ways. She was the biological mother of the human being. Jesus had her DNA. Because the Logos was united to the human nature, she bore the Logos, too, but saying that she was the biological mother of the Logos would seem nonsensical.
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh.
Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me.
The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Mary was the believing virgin woman in whose flesh was conceived the body prepared by the Spirit for the Word. He come down from heaven to dwell in that body of flesh among men, to show them the Father as He is.
And it was the Father who called Him the Son of God, not Mary: This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
That holy thing was the body of flesh prepared for Him to dwell in. The Word coming down out of heaven to be the Son of God in flesh on earth was not that holy thing.
The second Adam had a body flesh prepared for His soul, even as the first Adam had a body of dust prepared for His soul to dwell in: first the sinless body and holy thing was prepared, then God breathed into it, and Adam become a living soul dwelling therein.
So also, a sinless and holy thing was prepared for the Lord Himself, in which He entered and became the Son of God dwelling therein.
Neither the living soul of Adam nor of Jesus was that body of sinless flesh, which was first made of dust, and then made of a woman.
The Son of God's body was made of flesh of a woman of the seed of David. The Son Himself was neither made nor created ever at all.
The body of Eve was also made of the flesh of Adam, even as that of Jesus from Mary.
The Son Himself and God the Word was no more the 'son' of Mary, than was Eve the 'daughter' of Adam.
Mary was a good and faithful woman of Israel who carried the holy and sinless body of Jesus and gave birth to it, not to God.
The whole controversy comes down to that line in red and how it is understood by the reader. It reflects what almost always is said in one fashion or another when this debate gets going.
The truth is that Mary bore the baby who already existed as God. No problem there. But she did not "give birth to" God in the usual sense of that expression, which would be to say that she originated God.
Not of God, as he is eternal!She conceived and gave birth to a Person, not a nature. She is the mother of Jesus. That makes her the mother of the Divine Person, the Son and Logos, Jesus Christ. She is not mother of His humanity, she is not mother of His Deity, she is mother of Him.
-CryptoLutheran
So is Jesus, he is eternal. You have to look at God and Jesus as the same, which you are indirectly denying to be so.Not of God, as he is eternal!