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Unqualified · 2024-05-17T03:42:00-0500

Won’t heaven be like it.

Yusuphhai · 2024-05-17T03:39:17-0500

God has no relationship with body?

Unqualified · 2024-05-17T03:39:09-0500

We will be able to visit all the stars and planets if there are any. Plenty to do. Heaven is a big place. In spirit a 1000 year praise session will be nothing. One day at a time. We still only have an earthly mind to comprehend it.
No time means no passage of time. We will eat as a group. I expect to be met at the pearl gate by people I know and there will be fellowship like never before. No boredom.

timewerx · 2024-05-17T03:35:21-0500

ImaginaryFiction said:
Satan has gotten into the hearts of our leaders. America is failing because we have people running the show that do not care about americans, they do not care about American morals and standards and values and pride, they do not care about anything except their own money and power. Money, power, greed, selfishness, apathy, hatred is in there hearts because they opened themselves up to it.

Because of that they only serve only themselves. They would let the whole country sink as long as it's nice in their backyard.

I would think that many Americans, not just the politicians also do not care about anything except their own money.

Every time I talk about verses in the Bible about helping the poor, they resort to folly and many would say "mind your own business" or "no one can tell how we spend our money" or "why aren't you helping the poor yourself", ruin the discussion and these are Christians.

Jesus told us how we should spend our money. The vast majority of Christians don't do it because they care more about their money more than they care about what Jesus thinks. You cannot love both. You will love one and hate the other. If you love money, you'll find it despicable to help anyone who needed money, you'll despise/avoid people who are needy of money such as the poor, and lastly, you'll hate Jesus and will ignore many of His teachings, especially His teachings about money.

keras · 2024-05-17T03:19:59-0500

Jeffrey Bowden said:
You don’t recognize the two groups in Rev 3:10:

No: because there is only one group; - everybody alive at that time.

Jeffrey Bowden said:
We will ascend to Jesus in 1 Th 4:17. But, we are first changed into our glorified bodies (1 Cor 15:52). We meet Jesus in air and go to Heaven (Rev 4:1).

A dream so incredible that to believe it is a departure from reality.
Being committed to such a belief is one thing, but to be unable to even consider any alternative, or the possibility it won't happen, is a very unfortunate mental state.
But I know people who have renounced the rapture, by fervent prayer and intensive Bible study. God does lift the veil for those who earnestly seek the truth.

mikeforjesus · 2024-05-17T03:10:54-0500

We must not let this apply to us. But not all words come from the Lord. May the Lord help us discern what word comes from Him and do it. I dont think we have reason to be condemned if we could not do a work or if we dont know or cant know for sure what He requires but we must seek to always do the works God wants from us we must find out in the word that we can assume we must help all who are truly in need according to our ability at all times from our own work not others work so their money.The bible does say He will put every work into judgement explained by the seat that paul said we will all stand even believers that is required for sake of entering kingdom on death and rewards otherwise to be saved by fire if you just call on the Lord if that is all you can do otherwise to seek to do for does not mean even you must do a work if cant but if you can only seek to do work but one should always seek to do work as dont know if have opportunity to repent later and works would be done if you were seeking if you dont die.

Ezekiel 33:30-33
30 “As for you, son of man, the children of your people are talking about you beside the walls and in the doors of the houses; and they speak to one another, everyone saying to his brother, ‘Please come and hear what the word is that comes from the LORD.’ 31 So they come to you as people do, they sit before you as My people, and they hear your words, but they do not do them; for with their mouth they show much love, but
their hearts pursue their own gain. 32 Indeed you are to them as a very lovely song of one who has a pleasant voice and can play well on an instrument; for they hear your words, but they do not do them. 33 And when this comes to pass—surely it will come—then they will know that a prophet has been among them.”

awstar · 2024-05-17T03:02:29-0500

John 12:1-7
1. Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.
2. There they made him a supper; and Martha served: but Lazarus was one of them that sat at the table with him.
3. Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.
4. Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,
5. Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?
6. This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.
7. Then said Jesus, Let her alone: against the day of my burying hath she kept this.

It seems the significance of the gift of myrrh from the magi was similar to the gift of spikenard from Mary in that it represented the day of Christ’s burial. The ointment seems to be a way of keeping the corpse from stinking — as Lazarus’ body was said to have stunk. As it turns out, only a few are not offended by the stink of Christ’s burial — all outsiders: Mary (who was probably Mary Magdalene), the magi from the east, and Nicodemus — the cover of night visiting Pharisee. I wonder if Jesus was trolling Judas Iscariot when He said this.

FireDragon76 · 2024-05-17T02:59:22-0500

AlexB23 said:
Agreed, and is has gotten really ill over the past 5 years or so.

For instance: In 2023, Reverend Dr. Caleb J. Lines preached a false teaching (5 minute video) – a blasphemy, stating that “God is trans” and “gay”, which the Bible clearly states that God made man and women in his image (Genesis 1:27). The congregation failed to rebuke him, as the church had an un-biblical ideology as a whole, similar to the Church of Laodicea (Revelations 3:15).

This is info about the pastor, albeit from 7 years prior: The strangest place pastor Caleb Lines found God

We should pray for him, that he turns back to God, and away from false teachings.

I don't see the objection.

Does God actually have sexuality?

Astrophile · 2024-05-17T02:56:21-0500

Mountainmike said:
Hans.

Background

There are only two ways to view this. As a scientist or not. I prefer the former.

If you are in non scientist mode, theory , hypothesis proof can mean what you like.
Evolution can mean what you will.

If you are in scientist mode Theory. Hypothesis. Proof mean very specific things.

In non scientist mode, there is no "consensus" on what evolution means in colloquial usage except to say some vague assumption that it - the so far undefined "evolution" can somehow explain all or most of what happened certainly after the first cell.

But you and I in "work mode" as scientists cannot settle for other than definition rigor and you can only state what can be derived axiomatically and what are experimentally verified hypotheses can be promoted to theory. Whether they are mathematical or not.

So from the background let us deal with this case of woolly unscientific language by Warden..

Warden begged the question, when he questioned whether evolution was "just a theory" as if somehow deprecating a theory.
The question is whether there IS a "A theory of evolution" as validated by scientific means.
The answer is there is no single theory.

For example take the speculation that "all life" came from "evolution".
Quite apart from the fact nobody can decide when that started (some refer to chemical "evolution" before the first cell, who immediately run into problems as to whether chemicals are live!

Darwin's so called theory was progressive small change is responsible for life (with or without survival of fittest)
It refers to no underlying process. Only an observation chain. So cannot be extrapolated beyond the observations so to make conclusions as regards all of life, he is just speculating...
And since in "life" terms he is referring only to observations of the last second of the last hour of life development, he cannot possibly demonstrate that hypothesis by experiment. So it is not a theory.

Let us be more specific and refer only to cellular development for which we at least have some molecular biological processes.
The simplest cell we know is Massively complex, more complex than any known chemical factories.
There is no conjectured pathway to those cells from simpler cells. The days of thinking that cells were just blobs of simple jelly as they did in Darwin's day is long gone. So there is no theory for evolution of cellular life that spans more than the last second of the last hour of cellular development.

Starting at the other end there is no hint of process to test to get to the first cell or from there to present cells so no hypothesis that encompasses most of life.. Nothing to test. No theory. Nothing EXCEPT speculation.

Clearly there are molecular genetic theories based on present life observation- starting with Mendel and gene function - to the genome division and recombination that cover generational updates. Man as always used his observations well. Most of the life you see as plants and domesticated animals are the result of man using observations to adapt his environment.

But a myopic look at a few generations is certainly not what those who enter the "evolution" vs "creation" mean by evolution!

So those who think and claim that present science "explains" in any sense "life" using the word "theory of evolution" to do it clearly do not understand the words hypothesis, theory or scientific process.

When warden says "Just a theory" he should have said with scientific hat on "NOT EVEN a theory"

And if he ever comes up with his personal definition of this "theory of evolution" on which we must assume he based his remark, there is no doubt it either a/ it does not explain life in anything like entirety, or b/ he is speculating as Darwin did. In neither case it is it a theory.

Alas in my field of science identifying what are assumptions repeated so often they became facts without proof, and distinguishing them from fact, s is how many new discoveries are made/
In converse, Promoting the conclusion of evolution way beyond the evidence is a feature of atheists discussing origin of life.

I just tell it how it is. I am happy to separate what I "know" from science (with all the metaphysical limitations that has) with what I believe.
Most atheists cannot do that. Evolution explains life is the core belief of all atheists I ever met.! And those attacking creation are generally atheists on a forum like this. So that was fair comment too. It is not exclusive, some theists believe in evolution explained life from a created first cell. Others belief life appeared in late stage and developed from there. Either way they distinguish what they believe. Atheists can rarely separate what they believe from what they think (often wrongly) science can tell them.

Are you questioning the fact of evolution or the theory of evolution?

When I speak of the fact of evolution, I mean the evidence that living things have evolved throughout the Earth's history. This evidence includes the pattern of relationships between living things that is demonstrated by the patterns of genetic similarities and differences, and the succession of fossils that shows that there have been great changes in the species that have inhabited the Earth from the earliest Archaean fossils to the present day, and even from the Cambrian period to the present day.

Another piece of evidence for evolution is the common-sense observation that all life comes from life by a natural reproductive process. Every living thing can in principle trace its ancestry back in an unbroken line from its parents and grand-parents to the origin of life in the Archaean or the Hadean aeon. Note here that I am speaking of evolution, not of abiogenesis. The principle that all life comes from life demands evolution. So far as I can see, one can only deny evolution if one believes in spontaneous generation of complex living things. It is not reasonable to say that the assertion that all living things since the origin of life have been produced by their parents is 'nothing but speculation'.

In view of this and other evidence, I should like to know what alternative explanation you can offer for the biological observations that provide evidence for the fact of evolution.

rjs330 · 2024-05-17T02:54:38-0500

rturner76 said:
I addressed this in another post. Check it out. Gender Dysphoria IS an illness by defenition

That's not acceptable by transgendered people. That's transphobic. They do NOT want anyone to say they have an illness. Take a look at the trans person on this thread. He would be very upset with you if you claimed he had an mental illness.

Valletta · 2024-05-17T02:36:36-0500

rambot said:
Perfect. So now we have established that CO2 molecules have the ability to hold infrared energy. Agreed?

If we are agreed, I would then ask: Are you familiar with things in nature like the rock cycle, the water cycle, and the carbon cycle?

I'm familiar with the bicycle.

Strong in Him · 2024-05-17T02:33:03-0500

HopeSings said:
Sorry about being hard to deal with. I have issues with things. My apologies.

No problem.
I just wasn't sure where you were going with your posts.

Strong in Him · 2024-05-17T02:32:14-0500

DavidTheGnome said:
There are things I'd love to be wrong about, and this divine retribution stuff is one of them.

You are wrong about it.

DavidTheGnome said:
I believe Jesus's body and blood is capable of covering all sins. I believe it can cover mine, but I haven't been sure whether or not it will.

It will.
Why would Jesus die for everyone else except you? He loves you.

Philip_B · 2024-05-17T02:30:50-0500

ralliann said:
On accident, which again is all because of Hamas, and their supporters. Doesn't matter they were kidnapped, does it? Support Hamas at all costs.

Just in case you are misled, or mistaken, I do not support acts of terror, or the taking of hostages, by either side, and I do not support the killing indiscriminately of civilians but either side.

Jeffrey Bowden · 2024-05-17T02:27:49-0500

Kokavkrystallos said:
Matthew 24:30-31, and that parallel in Mark - "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

He comes in the clouds of heaven, and, there is a great sound of a trumpet, and He gathers His elect.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 - 17, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

This is the "go to" rapture passage and we see it correlates to Matthew: He comes in clouds, there's the voice of the archangel, and the trumpet. The "we" refers to the elect, who here it says are caught up.

You are combining 2A (2nd Advent) (Matt 24:30-31) and rapture verses (1 Th 4:16-17). The 2A and rapture are two separate events, that are about seven years apart.

All of Rev 4 - Rev 22 are in the future. Rev 4:1 is the pre-Trib rapture. Again, Rev 4 - 22 are all in the future.

Douggg · 2024-05-17T02:09:37-0500

Timtofly said:
This opinion that the 7th Trumpet is out of order, totally dismisses the fact that 7 Thunders happen prior to the 7th Trumpet.

Do you think because the 7 Thunders are sealed, they won't even happen? Why do you just disregard them as if they are not there?

John was told not to write down what the 7 Thunders said. So we don't know anything about them other than John heard seven thunders as voices.

Timtofly said:
You claim the vials are just an extension of the Trumpets, which also dismisses the 7 Thunders.

No, there is over lap between the Trumpets and Vials.

Timtofly said:
The first 6 Trumpets and the 7 Thunders are part of the final harvest as Jesus taught in Matthew 13 and Matthew 25. Jesus and the angels are on the earth for the final harvest. Because the final harvest takes place while humans are physically alive, not after they are physically dead.

Tim, quote the passage in Matthew 13 and Matthew 25 that you are referring to.

The parable in Matthew 13 is talking about right before the Great White Throne judgment after the thousand year reign of Christ on this earth is over.

Timtofly said:
Any human physically alive at the 7th Trumpet not redeemed, has to go through the winepress of God's wrath, which ends their physical life.

The winepress of God's wrath will be in Israel, the day that Jesus returns, as the blood there will run a horse's bridle deep in some places for 1600 furlongs, i.e. 200 miles, the length of Israel.

Revelation 14:
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Apple Sky · 2024-05-17T01:47:52-0500

prodromos said:
How does God respond to everything Elihu has said to Job in chapters 32-37?

I think that succinctly sums up the flat earthers approach to Scripture.

Okay fair enough but this doesn't mean there is no firmament with waters above.

King James Bible
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

King James Bible
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

Joseph G · 2024-05-17T01:47:24-0500

Dave G. said:
And He comes up with some real surprises sometimes.

Boy hidey! Like when He answers some prayer from 6 months ago out of the blue. You would think HE'S the one leading and performing according to HIS priorities or something!

SaltAndLightTeacher, gotta agree with Dave G. - you want a passion for Jesus Christ but you are, frankly, hampering your ability to hear Him if you are resisting studying His Word. It's the daily combination of prayer and Scripture that will tenderize your heart for others and open sensitivity to His Spirit to share His love.

God bless!

keepitsimple144 · 2024-05-17T01:40:02-0500

keepitsimple144 said:
Rejoice, O Gentiles, with His people...He will make atonement for his people. Deut 32:43

Now revealed to His saints to whom God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27 For God does not forsake His saints; They are preserved forever, But the wicked [the ungodly, the unfaithful] shall be cut off. Psalm 37:27-29 The salvation of the righteous is from the Lord;

Dan Perez said:
And your Psa 37:27-29 is talking about Israel , the righteous shall INHERIT the Land , is not for the B O C !!

You would think, but then Jesus showed up and rained on their religious parade.
You don't accept My teaching because you are of your father the devil, John 8:43-44
If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God. John 8:42
The Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have never heard His voice at any time, John 5:37

But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God; John 1:11-13
God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 1 John 5:11
Nor is there salvation in any other, Acts 4:11-12
Honor the Son lest you perish...Ps 2:12

HARK! · 2024-05-17T01:02:34-0500

Grafted In said:
May I?

As a gentile, I have a deep desire to continue studying the Feast Days.
A couple of years ago I visited a church, a full gospel denomination. After talking with one of the elders, I suppose he was, and sharing my interest in them, he told me my interest was demonic.

I would wipe the dust of that church from my feet.

YHWH calls his people out of the nations (gentiles). He calls his who seek him out to be fellow citizens of Yahsar Al (Israel).

(CLV) Eph 2:11
Wherefore, remember that once you, the nations [gentiles] in flesh—who are termed "Uncircumcision" by those termed "Circumcision," in flesh, made by hands-

Not anymore!

(CLV) Eph 2:12
that you were, in that era, apart from Christ, being alienated [gentilesr] from the citizenship of Israel, and guests of the promise covenants, having no expectation, and without God in the world.

Not anymore!

(CLV) Eph 2:19
Consequently, then, not longer are you guests (Ger Toshav) and sojourners (Ger), but are fellow-citizens of the saints and belong to God's family,

Valletta · 2024-05-17T00:53:51-0500

The Liturgist said:
I thought it was Archbishop Fulton Sheen? Anyway, I love watching recordings of his program on YouTube.

You are correct. Yes, he took on many spiritual and social issues which are still quite relevant today.

RandyPNW · 2024-05-17T00:51:02-0500

HopeSings said:
People hate me because of my religious beliefs, mental illness and sin.

I'm feel despised, rejected, scorned, mocked, walked on, lorded over, disliked and hated.

I have no friends but Jesus and I'm an imperfect sinner. I repent of everything but I struggle with lustful thoughts still. I'm pretty low. I have nothing but judges and haters

Nah, you have friends. You are just learning tough love. You may feel unworthy, but the spirit is deeper than your feelings.

I'm not trying to depreciate your negative experience. Keep the faith and you will get through it.

Grafted In · 2024-05-17T00:36:56-0500

For my mom, her biggest thrill as a kid was the hoop and stick.
Very high tech.

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