You Say - Lauren Daigel

[blackhead]

This song has been number one for quite a while. Read the lyrics and look at the depravity of the Christian music industry. The lyrics to this song are garbage and I consider them unchristian.


You Say

I keep fighting voices in my mind that say I’m not enough
Every single lie that tells me I will never measure up
Am I more than just the sum of every high and every low?
Remind me once again just who I am, because I need to know (ooh oh)
You say I am loved when I can’t feel a thing
You say I am strong when I think I am weak
You say I am held when I am falling short
When I don’t belong, oh You say that I am Yours
And I believe (I), oh I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
I believe
The only thing that matters now is everything You think of me
In You I find my worth, in You I find my identity, (ooh oh)
You say I am loved when I can’t feel a thing
You say I am strong when I think I am weak
And You say I am held when I am falling short
When I don’t belong, oh You say that I am Yours
And I believe (I), oh I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
Oh, I believe
Taking all I have and now I'm laying it at Your feet
You have every failure God, and You'll have every victory, (ooh oh)
You say I am loved when I can’t feel a thing
You say I am strong when I think I am weak
You say I am held when I am falling short
When I don’t belong, oh You say that I am Yours
And I believe (I), oh I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
I believe
Oh I believe (I), yes I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
Oh I believe (oh)

 

[blackhead]

Take a look at the first two lines they are Antichrist.

 

[thecolorsblend]

Disclaimer: I think "contemporary Christian" music is an absolute joke.

Still, that song checks a lot of the boxes for an average CCM hit song.

 

[salt-n-light]

This song has been number one for quite a while. Read the lyrics and look at the depravity of the Christian music industry. The lyrics to this song are garbage and I consider them unchristian.


You Say

I keep fighting voices in my mind that say I’m not enough
Every single lie that tells me I will never measure up
Am I more than just the sum of every high and every low?
Remind me once again just who I am, because I need to know (ooh oh)
You say I am loved when I can’t feel a thing
You say I am strong when I think I am weak
You say I am held when I am falling short
When I don’t belong, oh You say that I am Yours
And I believe (I), oh I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
I believe
The only thing that matters now is everything You think of me
In You I find my worth, in You I find my identity, (ooh oh)
You say I am loved when I can’t feel a thing
You say I am strong when I think I am weak
And You say I am held when I am falling short
When I don’t belong, oh You say that I am Yours
And I believe (I), oh I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
Oh, I believe
Taking all I have and now I'm laying it at Your feet
You have every failure God, and You'll have every victory, (ooh oh)
You say I am loved when I can’t feel a thing
You say I am strong when I think I am weak
You say I am held when I am falling short
When I don’t belong, oh You say that I am Yours
And I believe (I), oh I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
I believe
Oh I believe (I), yes I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
Oh I believe (oh)

Antichrist as in leading others away from God with this song, I would vote "no".

But yes the ambiguity of it (and her whole album) I could question at most her motives. Although I'm not exactly depending on Laurel to give me the Word, if her mission was to uplift and relate through melodies, then for me she achieved that.

 

[blackhead]

Antichrist as in leading others away from God with this song, I would vote "no".

Her lyrics are the opposite of what the gospel teaches. She talks about measuring up and being good enough. On the other hand the gospel tells us that we are poor miserable sinners in need of forgiveness.

 

[salt-n-light]

Her lyrics are the opposite of what the gospel teaches. She talks about measuring up and being good enough. On the other hand the gospel tells us that we are poor miserable sinners in need of forgiveness.

I dont see that, but ok.

 

[sunshine100]

This song has been number one for quite a while. Read the lyrics and look at the depravity of the Christian music industry. The lyrics to this song are garbage and I consider them unchristian.


You Say

I keep fighting voices in my mind that say I’m not enough
Every single lie that tells me I will never measure up
Am I more than just the sum of every high and every low?
Remind me once again just who I am, because I need to know (ooh oh)
You say I am loved when I can’t feel a thing
You say I am strong when I think I am weak
You say I am held when I am falling short
When I don’t belong, oh You say that I am Yours
And I believe (I), oh I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
I believe
The only thing that matters now is everything You think of me
In You I find my worth, in You I find my identity, (ooh oh)
You say I am loved when I can’t feel a thing
You say I am strong when I think I am weak
And You say I am held when I am falling short
When I don’t belong, oh You say that I am Yours
And I believe (I), oh I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
Oh, I believe
Taking all I have and now I'm laying it at Your feet
You have every failure God, and You'll have every victory, (ooh oh)
You say I am loved when I can’t feel a thing
You say I am strong when I think I am weak
You say I am held when I am falling short
When I don’t belong, oh You say that I am Yours
And I believe (I), oh I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
I believe
Oh I believe (I), yes I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
Oh I believe (oh)

I love that song

 

[blackhead]

I love that song

Why? The lyrics are not Christian.

 

[Dave-W]

Take a look at the first two lines they are Antichrist.

How so??

I keep fighting voices in my mind that say I’m not enough
Every single lie that tells me I will never measure up​

I know dozens, perhaps hundreds of believers that battle lies in their minds every single day. There are many good honest christians right here on these boards that go thru that battle every day.

I have been there myself.

 

[Dave-W]

Why? The lyrics are not Christian.

How do you define "christian" in that context?

It is a rendering of the struggle many christians go thru.

 

[blackhead]

How so??

I keep fighting voices in my mind that say I’m not enough
Every single lie that tells me I will never measure up​

I know dozens, perhaps hundreds of believers that battle lies in their minds every single day. There are many good honest christians right here on these boards that go thru that battle every day.

I have been there myself.

We’re not enough. Christ is enough. We will never measure up. Christ measures up. We are poor miserable sinners. Christ is the only perfect one.

 

[Dave-W]

We’re not enough. Christ is enough. We will never measure up. Christ measures up. We are poor miserable sinners. Christ is the only perfect one.

OK - well your theology needs some adjusting. Once we are saved we are WAAAY more than just "poor miserable sinners." We are Children of the Most High. But it is a struggle to get from your line of thought to a more scriptural one. That is what the song is all about.

 

[blackhead]

OK - well your theology needs some adjusting. Once we are saved we are WAAAY more than just "poor miserable sinners." We are Children of the Most High. But it is a struggle to get from your line of thought to a more scriptural one. That is what the song is all about.

No. We say that we are poor miserable sinners every week during our confession and absolution at church. Remember it was the publican who wouldn’t even look up to the sky who went down justified. Luke 18:9-14. The Pharisees were the ones who thought they could “measure up” and be “good enough”.

 

[Beanieboy]

No. We say that we are poor miserable sinners every week during our confession and absolution at church. Remember it was the publican who wouldn’t even look up to the sky who went down justified. Luke 18:9-14. The Pharisees were the ones who thought they could “measure up” and be “good enough”.

Wow, you really missed what the parable
means. One went before God, bragging
about how holy he was, and how much holier than other, who was humbling himself before God, and asking forgiveness of sins.
He told the parable to those who acted self-righteous, and were judgemental of others.

When the woman came to Simon's house, she approached him and washed his feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair and anointed his head with expensive oils. Simon looked at them both, deciding Jesus could not be the Christ because he would know what kind of wonan she was, and not her approach. Jesus asked Simon who loves his master more, the one forgive a small debt or a large debt. He said, the one forgiven a large debt. Christ said, you have judged rightly. You haved offered to wash my feer, she has done so with her tears, dried my feet with her hair.

In other words, Simon was being self-righteous, but judged rightly by admitting he had show less love to Jesus than the woman.

I have actually had someone quote "You have judged rightly" interpreting it as Christians should be judge others. Simon judged himself.

 

[Beanieboy]

I'm so confused about this post.
A Christian would be her singing about how she fights the voices of doubt inside her head that say she'll never measure up, measure up to be a good singer, a good mom, or if she is singing about measuring up as a Christian, the lyrics should be

When I'm feeling good, you tell me I'm a terrible sinner
When i'm feeling doubt, you remind me that I'm nothing...
When I worthless, you chime in "it's cuz you are, Blanch!"

That sounds like an emotionally abusive relationship. I struggle with depression. If I'm feeling down, it starts to go down a spiral that heads to suicidal ideation. To me, I hear her singing that when I feel like I don't belong, you tell me I am yours. When I feeling weak, you give me strength. When I feel lost, remind me that your with me. You show me love and encourage me, and I believe.

Those who have love for themselves can love their neighbor as themselves, but if you don't even know love for yourself, how can you love your neighbor as yourself?

Does Jesus want to life of shame, and hate ourselves, or a life of joy?

Years ago, someone begged to repent of my sin (being gay). Didn't bother her much that I said I was Buddhist because I got sick of having to defend myself as a Christian. I told her that I have prayed about since I was 12 for hours sometimes to be changed, and said no. She pleaded that I pray again, had to pray formally to God the Father of the Judeo-Christian Church, Jesus Christ his only begotten son, and the HS, and ask forgiveness for disilobeying. I said that I would promise to pray, and asked if she pray as well, to be shown she was in error. She flat out refused, saying she knew she was right.

I kept my promise, and for one of the few times in my life, God spoke. But this is what he said:
I've known you since your infancy, but you are the one who must be brave enough to call yourself my child.
Then he showed me that for the last 40 years, he acknowledged my love for him, but he was standing there arms open, pleading for me to believe he loved me, and accept his love. But being taught shame and self loathing prevented me from accepting God's love.i was taught we are lowly sinners, shamed and so I felt I was unworthy of love, if God loved me back. So, there he was, his love in open arms, and me believing maybe he didn't because I was unworthy. It made me assume people didn't like me, made me guarded in relationship, me me feel unworthy to receive love from others.

And our crime? Not being perfect. Why would God love us if he too saw us as lowly sinners, and not see the good that we are because we are his children?

 

[Beanieboy]

I believe this isn't about the song. Is this
really about her appearing on Ellen, and when asked of homosexuality was a sin, said she didn't know, because the gay people she knew were not those used to condemn homosexuality in the Bible, and she told people to look to the Scripture and pray about it, and when they figure it out, to tell her. She just said she knew she didn't get to chose who to be kind to, and when we draw lines about who to approach and who not to, we have missed the mind of God.

She was singing on a show full of sinners! Why does she eat with the sinners?

And the problem is, she makes a good point- that you don't get to chose who you show love to, and who you approach, or you live a life of a Pharisee. And that must sting. So, we attack the source, the singer, the song, one that sings of her finding her strength and worth in Christ, rather than finding Christ, and believing the good news is about how we are nothing but lowly sinners, and flog ourselves with constant shame.

 

[sunshineforJesus]

I love that song

Me too,I find it very encouraging and her voice reminds me of adelles.

 

[Beanieboy]

Right? And it's like shaming Debbie Boone for singing "You light up my life" because she didn't say Jesus. But it gave her the opportunity to talk about how it was a song to Jesus when sang it, the ambiguousness giving her an appropriate opportunity to talk about it.

But part of the problem with evangelicals is their insistance of bringing up Jesus and the need for the other to be saved, rather than get to know people, have conversations with people about their lives. There is also this bizarre idea that while Jedus died fir our sins, other people's salvation is now dependent upon the evangelical.

 

[power1]

This song has been number one for quite a while. Read the lyrics and look at the depravity of the Christian music industry. The lyrics to this song are garbage and I consider them unchristian.


You Say

I keep fighting voices in my mind that say I’m not enough

My take on this song..
The world is full of voices, some from God and some from Satan. Often things that are said on media, or in school, or by friends or strangers or enemies can be reviewed in our minds, trying to decide what is true.

Every single lie that tells me I will never measure up
Am I more than just the sum of every high and every low?
Remind me once again just who I am, because I need to know (ooh oh)

That looks like someone that needs reassurance and is praying to God for help through the ups and downs of life.

You say I am loved when I can’t feel a thing

His word says He loves us and sometimes people forget that or feel a need to experience that more.

You say I am strong when I think I am weak
You say I am held when I am falling short
When I don’t belong, oh You say that I am Yours
And I believe (I), oh I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
I believe

God says we can do all things through Christ that strengthens us. He says we are His children. She reaffirms that she believes this.

The only thing that matters now is everything You think of me
In You I find my worth, in You I find my identity, (ooh oh)
You say I am loved when I can’t feel a thing
You say I am strong when I think I am weak
And You say I am held when I am falling short
When I don’t belong, oh You say that I am Yours
And I believe (I), oh I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
Oh, I believe

Many people do not have a great sense of self worth. They try to identify with God.

Taking all I have and now I'm laying it at Your feet

All to Him she wants to give.

You have every failure God, and You'll have every victory, (ooh oh)
You say I am loved when I can’t feel a thing
You say I am strong when I think I am weak
You say I am held when I am falling short
When I don’t belong, oh You say that I am Yours
And I believe (I), oh I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
I believe

She clings to God for victory in the trails of life, admitting that sometimes she is weak.

Oh I believe (I), yes I believe (I)
What You say of me (I)
Oh I believe (oh)

[/QUOTE]Here she worships God



So the only question I would have is why anyone would throw mud on a beautiful Christian artist and person and song?

 

[Veloman]

The gospel and our salvation is rooted in the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. The book of John quotes Christ saying much about us abiding in Him, and the results thereof. If this is the case (which it is), then I would have to conclude that Ms. Daigle is a wolf in sheep's clothing--one of those the bible says will deceive the very elect of Christ. She is a shiny package that sings out glorious melodies tainted with just the smallest bits of poison that send weaker Christians down a road of error. Add to that the fact that she has amassed millions for those at the helm of the music industry--an industry where fame and fortune are at the forefront [READ: pride]. Avoid these people the best you can.