Why do manatee's have toenails

[Vance]

My daughter was just reading a book on manatees (which I knew nothing about other than what I saw at Sea World), and I was amazed at some of the interesting facts about them. It seems that they are incredibly similar to elephants in many, many ways, and even have vestigal toenails on their flippers! These little nails serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

One description is as follows:

The similarities between manatees and elephants are considerable: the toenails, teeth, digestive tract, prehensile mouth parts, skin, location of mammary glands, and hair are the most notable. The manatee's hind legs have been reabsorbed and only a cartilaginous structure remains.

All very odd, indeed, without evolution.

To believe that manatees did NOT share a common ancestor with elephants seems like "head in the sand" tactics.

 

[ObbiQuiet]

Yet, it seems some kids spent too much time in the sandbox.

 

[LadyShea]

Manatees also have finger and wrist bones like all mammals

 

[the_malevolent_milk_man]

Sand is nearly impossible to get out of your undies, oddly enough that rhymes with fundies.

 

[troodon]

My daughter was just reading a book on manatees (which I knew nothing about other than what I saw at Sea World), and I was amazed at some of the interesting facts about them. It seems that they are incredibly similar to elephants in many, many ways, and even have vestigal toenails on their flippers! These little nails serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

One description is as follows:

The similarities between manatees and elephants are considerable: the toenails, teeth, digestive tract, prehensile mouth parts, skin, location of mammary glands, and hair are the most notable. The manatee's hind legs have been reabsorbed and only a cartilaginous structure remains.

All very odd, indeed, without evolution.

To believe that manatees did NOT share a common ancestor with elephants seems like "head in the sand" tactics.

WHAT! An elephant started swimming one day and became a manatee? Typical evolutionary FAIRY TALE. EVOLUTION IS FALSE!!!!!!!!!!

 

[LadyShea]

Troodon is your post serious?

Talking snakes, talking donkeys, deities speaking through burning bushes, deities losing battles because of iron chariots, millions of animals crammed on a little boat, women turned into salt, dead people rising, etc....which is the fairy tale?

 

[TransformedByGrace]

Mama wasn't a manatee! At the beginning discovery and thought of the reason for HUMAN fingernails, did anybody realize why they were there? Isn't this a typically recent discovery compared to human fingernail noticing? Isn't it a little unintelligent and dogmatic to jump to such drastic conclusions as saying that manatee "nails" serve no purpose whatsoever, especially with such little time since we noticed.
There may be a very good reason that manatees have "nails" such as the fact that the human tailbone contains extremely high deposits of calcium, that are released when one breaks a bone to the bone needed via the circulatory system. This explains why clean breaks of the tailbone heal quicker than any other bone in the body (usually within 24 hours).

 

[Arikay]

Why do they have wrist bones and finger bones?

Speaking of the human tail bone, humans can have a tail, ya know, like the monkey we are not supposably cousins with.

Mama wasn't a manatee! At the beginning discovery and thought of the reason for HUMAN fingernails, did anybody realize why they were there? Isn't this a typically recent discovery compared to human fingernail noticing? Isn't it a little unintelligent and dogmatic to jump to such drastic conclusions as saying that manatee "nails" serve no purpose whatsoever, especially with such little time since we noticed.
There may be a very good reason that manatees have "nails" such as the fact that the human tailbone contains extremely high deposits of calcium, that are released when one breaks a bone to the bone needed via the circulatory system. This explains why clean breaks of the tailbone heal quicker than any other bone in the body (usually within 24 hours).

 

[troodon]

Troodon is your post serious?

Nah it wasn't. I try to only use caps at the beginnings of sentences and proper nouns.

Talking snakes, talking donkeys, deities speaking through burning bushes, deities losing battles because of iron chariots, millions of animals crammed on a little boat, women turned into salt, dead people rising, etc....which is the fairy tale?

Evolution does sound more probable than lots of that (even though a few of the things in that list did happen )

 

[LadyShea]

Okay Troodon...I didn't think you were YEC. Sorry

There may be a very good reason that manatees have "nails" such as the fact that the human tailbone contains extremely high deposits of calcium, that are released when one breaks a bone to the bone needed via the circulatory system. This explains why clean breaks of the tailbone heal quicker than any other bone in the body (usually within 24 hours)

Sources or evidence or oh just any kind of back up please?

 

[troodon]

Isn't it a little unintelligent and dogmatic to jump to such drastic conclusions as saying that manatee "nails" serve no purpose whatsoever

Hmm... I'm not sure what they'd be doing inside the flipper

There may be a very good reason that manatees have "nails" such as the fact that the human tailbone contains extremely high deposits of calcium, that are released when one breaks a bone to the bone needed via the circulatory system. This explains why clean breaks of the tailbone heal quicker than any other bone in the body (usually within 24 hours).

Nails aren't made of calcium, they're made of hard keratin; something the body doesn't need large amounts of (as far as I can tell).

 

[TransformedByGrace]

LOL! Millions of animals crammed into a boat? yeah right! The ark was 450ft long x 75 ft wide x 45ft high with 3 floors(or decks). each floor would have had 33,750 square foot of space, the ceilings on each floor=15ft high, these dimensions equal at least 1,500,000 cubic feet! This is equal to the space contained by about 522 train boxcars! EACH of these boxcars can hold about 240 sheep-size animals. Calculating these dimensions reveals that all the animals on the ark could have fit on about 2 of the floors, leaving the other floor for Noah's family, and food, etc.
Some people think that every SPECIES of animal was on the ark. This is not what the Bible says. It says 2 of every KIND (and 7 of some animals).
The difference between Species and Kind? If I put a german shepard in front of you and asked you what KIND of animal it was, you would respond "a dog". Yet if I asked you what SPECIES it was (assuming you are intelligent enough to know), you would answer me "a German Shepard". All the Bible says is that 2 of each KIND of animal was on the ark (i.e. 2 dogs, 2 cats, 2 lizards, etc...)
Plus, the Bible says that only creatures with the "breath of life" were on the ark, birds, animals, and creatures that crawl on the ground, making no mention of fish or insects.
Furthermore, the calculated average size of an animal on the ark was about that of a rat. Only about 11% of animals were over the size of a sheep. I could go into alot more detail and express more points, but I'm gonna go talk about something else. So, farewell....

 

[armed2010]

LOL! Millions of animals crammed into a boat? yeah right! The ark was 450ft long x 75 ft wide x 45ft high with 3 floors(or decks). each floor would have had 33,750 square foot of space, the ceilings on each floor=15ft high, these dimensions equal at least 1,500,000 cubic feet! This is equal to the space contained by about 522 train boxcars! EACH of these boxcars can hold about 240 sheep-size animals. Calculating these dimensions reveals that all the animals on the ark could have fit on about 2 of the floors, leaving the other floor for Noah's family, and food, etc.
Some people think that every SPECIES of animal was on the ark. This is not what the Bible says. It says 2 of every KIND (and 7 of some animals).
The difference between Species and Kind? If I put a german shepard in front of you and asked you what KIND of animal it was, you would respond "a dog". Yet if I asked you what SPECIES it was (assuming you are intelligent enough to know), you would answer me "a German Shepard". All the Bible says is that 2 of each KIND of animal was on the ark (i.e. 2 dogs, 2 cats, 2 lizards, etc...)
Plus, the Bible says that only creatures with the "breath of life" were on the ark, birds, animals, and creatures that crawl on the ground, making no mention of fish or insects.
Furthermore, the calculated average size of an animal on the ark was about that of a rat. Only about 11% of animals were over the size of a sheep. I could go into alot more detail and express more points, but I'm gonna go talk about something else. So, farewell....

Air is made by elf magic, because I say it is.

 

[Arikay]

Where did they put the Blue whales, and how did they get them on board?
A whale is not a fish, it breaths air just like us. It would have died in the global flood, thus it must have been on the ark.

Unless of course, it came from the super fast Macro evolution (speciation) that creationists say was needed after the flood.

LOL! Millions of animals crammed into a boat? yeah right! The ark was 450ft long x 75 ft wide x 45ft high with 3 floors(or decks). each floor would have had 33,750 square foot of space, the ceilings on each floor=15ft high, these dimensions equal at least 1,500,000 cubic feet! This is equal to the space contained by about 522 train boxcars! EACH of these boxcars can hold about 240 sheep-size animals. Calculating these dimensions reveals that all the animals on the ark could have fit on about 2 of the floors, leaving the other floor for Noah's family, and food, etc.
Some people think that every SPECIES of animal was on the ark. This is not what the Bible says. It says 2 of every KIND (and 7 of some animals).
The difference between Species and Kind? If I put a german shepard in front of you and asked you what KIND of animal it was, you would respond "a dog". Yet if I asked you what SPECIES it was (assuming you are intelligent enough to know), you would answer me "a German Shepard". All the Bible says is that 2 of each KIND of animal was on the ark (i.e. 2 dogs, 2 cats, 2 lizards, etc...)
Plus, the Bible says that only creatures with the "breath of life" were on the ark, birds, animals, and creatures that crawl on the ground, making no mention of fish or insects.
Furthermore, the calculated average size of an animal on the ark was about that of a rat. Only about 11% of animals were over the size of a sheep. I could go into alot more detail and express more points, but I'm gonna go talk about something else. So, farewell....

 

[Zadok001]

"Plus, the Bible says that only creatures with the "breath of life" were on the ark, birds, animals, and creatures that crawl on the ground, making no mention of fish or insects."

So, wait. Insects don't crawl on the ground and don't have the breath of life? And, uh, they survived yonder year long flood?

 

[LadyShea]

Dog species is Canis lupus familiaris , German Shepherd is a breed. There are over 30 species of canine and they are certainly not all dogs. So are they all the same kind?

 

[Arikay]

Anyway, anyone else notice he changed the subject, then dodged out of the way of the questions by saying he was leaving?

It would be nice to get a straight answer once in awhile.

 

[TransformedByGrace]

not all insects crawl the ground, i wasn't specific enough i guess. and insects to land on the ark wasn't a very big space issue!
Blue whales.... i thought they could swim.
And I don't know what creationists your talking to, but any macroevolution has never happened. Plus isn't it sorta contradictory to say a creationist (one who doesn't believe in evo), believes in evo?

 

[TransformedByGrace]

im back (u prolly noticed) and i'm leaving once again, I saw a response on the homepage that caught my interest...

 

[TransformedByGrace]

sorry about the mis(breed,species) thing. You can prolly tell I've never had a dog... but if you cant pick up the point, umm.. yeah...