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Why Did John the Baptist Live in the Wilderness? What Was He Doing?

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Jesus basically said that John the Baptist was the most righteous man to ever live... and he lived in the wilderness, eating insects and wearing minimal clothing. But why?

My guess is that he was staying away from all worldly distractions at all costs so that he could be completely focused on God and not be influenced by the sinful societies of the world... because he feared God and how holy He is.

Anyone have any other ideas why John the Baptist lived the way he did? In the wilderness eating locusts and honey, wearing camel hair and a leather belt?
 

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Sackcoth and ashes were the apparel of the prophets, John closed the prophetic age. It represented mourning and a call to repentance, I'm still trying to figure out how he was recognized as a prophet. There must have been something about how his words cut through the heart, that's all I can figure. Isaiah ran around naked for three years (Is. 20:3), they were a peculiar group. He was in mourning over the sin of Israel, that's what prophets do.

Grace and peace,
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Sackcoth and ashes were the apparel of the prophets, John closed the prophetic age. It represented mourning and a call to repentance, I'm still trying to figure out how he was recognized as a prophet. There must have been something about how his words cut through the heart, that's all I can figure. Isaiah ran around naked for three years (Is. 20:3), they were a peculiar group. He was in mourning over the sin of Israel, that's what prophets do.

Grace and peace,
Mark

Wow, i didnt know that about Isaiah. I never considered John the Baptist a "prophet", more like a one-time figure to introduce Jesus to the world. It doesn't say he was wearing sackcloth, just very minimal stuff, but I get what your saying. Interesting.
 
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Wow, i didnt know that about Isaiah. I never considered John the Baptist a "prophet", more like a one-time figure to introduce Jesus to the world. It doesn't say he was wearing sackcloth, just very minimal stuff, but I get what your saying. Interesting.
The garb he wore, that was sackcolth.

And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth." (Rev. 11:3)​

It was the garb of the prophets, it was a symbol of repentance and mourning.
 
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The garb he wore, that was sackcolth.

And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth." (Rev. 11:3)​

It was the garb of the prophets, it was a symbol of repentance and mourning.

I know sackcloth was a symbol of mourning but John the Baptist wasn't wearing sackcloth, he was wearing "camel hair and a leather belt"

And typically, Prophets only temporarily wear sackcloth... I think the camel hair was John's full-time clothing
 
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I know sackcloth was a symbol of mourning but John the Baptist wasn't wearing sackcloth, he was wearing "camel hair and a leather belt"

And typically, Prophets only temporarily wear sackcloth... I think the camel hair was John's full-time clothing

"Clothed in sackcloth." II Kings 1:8 is the response of some people who reported what they had seen to the king, Ahaziah: "So they answered him, 'A hairy man wearing a leather belt around his waist.' And he said, 'It is Elijah the Tishbite." Matthew 3:4 describes John the Baptist: "Now John himself was clothed in camel's hair, with a leather belt around his waist; and his food was locust and wild honey." So Elijah and John the Baptist both wore sackcloth. In a way, they are types of these Two Witnesses. (Bible verses about Sackcloth, Clothed with. From Forerunner Commentary)
All I said was that he was wearing the garb of the prophets, it seems pretty straight forward to me.
 
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"Clothed in sackcloth." II Kings 1:8 is the response of some people who reported what they had seen to the king, Ahaziah: "So they answered him, 'A hairy man wearing a leather belt around his waist.' And he said, 'It is Elijah the Tishbite." Matthew 3:4 describes John the Baptist: "Now John himself was clothed in camel's hair, with a leather belt around his waist; and his food was locust and wild honey." So Elijah and John the Baptist both wore sackcloth. In a way, they are types of these Two Witnesses. (Bible verses about Sackcloth, Clothed with. From Forerunner Commentary)
All I said was that he was wearing the garb of the prophets, it seems pretty straight forward to me.

I gotcha, sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. Yea it definitely seems like the camel hair was a garb like that, I agree. Any idea why he lived out in the wilderness though? Probably another prophetic sign of mourning?
 
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I gotcha, sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. Yea it definitely seems like the camel hair was a garb like that, I agree. Any idea why he lived out in the wilderness though? Probably another prophetic sign of mourning?
That was kind of typical of the prophets, they were like that. John was almost stereotypical of them, they bore the burden of Israel's national sins. John wasn't a hermit, he preached repentance and had no interest in material wealth, or any of the creature comforts. He would have been in stark contrast to those who would move into the palace or sell their souls for personal gain.

Like I said, I think he closed out the prophetic age and the two witnesses of Revelations are clothed in sackcloth. It was something like their uniform.
 
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I gotcha, sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. Yea it definitely seems like the camel hair was a garb like that, I agree. Any idea why he lived out in the wilderness though? Probably another prophetic sign of mourning?

The wilderness is a place to be nourished. Not by flesh and blood (as Paul put it.) Until the time of revealing.
 
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Jesus basically said that John the Baptist was the most righteous man to ever live... and he lived in the wilderness, eating insects and wearing minimal clothing. But why?

My guess is that he was staying away from all worldly distractions at all costs so that he could be completely focused on God and not be influenced by the sinful societies of the world... because he feared God and how holy He is.

Anyone have any other ideas why John the Baptist lived the way he did? In the wilderness eating locusts and honey, wearing camel hair and a leather belt?

When I was young, up to my teens, I've always wanted to live entirely in the wilderness.

I was being called there.

There's nothing more awesome than being called out to the wild by someone way bigger than our lives. That's how I felt back then.

After many years, I was getting that call again but this time, I know it is Christ who is calling. Still as awesome as it was back then. But the cares of this world, I cannot go, shame on me. :(
 
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The garb he wore, that was sackcolth.

And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth." (Rev. 11:3)​

It was the garb of the prophets, it was a symbol of repentance and mourning.

Jesus also directly calls John the Baptist Elijah and a prophet

Matthew 11:7-14
As they went away, Jesus began to speak to the crowds concerning John: “What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind? What then did you go out to see? A man dressed in soft clothing? Behold, those who wear soft clothing are in kings' houses. What then did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. This is he of whom it is written,

“‘Behold, I send my messenger before your face,
who will prepare your way before you.’

Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force. For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John, and if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come.
 
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As fulfillment of the coming of Elijah (Malachi 4:5-6) St. John the Baptist is the forerunner of the Messiah, and the last of the Prophets. He is the one Isaiah refers to as a "voice calling out in the wilderness" (Isaiah 40:3-5). As one who came in the "power and spirit of Elijah" he, like Elijah, was like an outcast who condemned the Ahab of his day (Herod).

John's birth and life was special. Like Samson he was to abstain from alcohol, like Samuel he was conceived and born to aged parents, like Elijah he retreated away and spoke against the corrupt powers that be.

John marks the consummation of what came before him, as the one who sets the stage for the Messiah.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Jesus also directly calls John the Baptist Elijah and a prophet

Matthew 11:7-14
As they went away, Jesus began to speak to the crowds concerning John: “What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind? What then did you go out to see? A man dressed in soft clothing? Behold, those who wear soft clothing are in kings' houses. What then did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. This is he of whom it is written,

“‘Behold, I send my messenger before your face,
who will prepare your way before you.’

Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force. For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John, and if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come.
The space of time between the Sermon on the Mount and the passing John would have been a couple of months. When Jesus delivered the sermon it was most likely in Jerusalem during the spring feasts, when all the Jews were required under the Law to be there. Since he was from Galilee he heads north afterwards, stopping to make a few converts in Samaria, which would have been shocking to some of the pious. The Kidron valley holds at least 40,000 but when he got to Galilee the crowds are getting even larger. He could have just preached to the pious but he preached to publicans, prostitutes and even Samaritans. So in the wake of the swelling crowds, he described as sheep without a shepard, so he calls the Twelve. He had no more trained the 12 to go out and preach then Herod has John the Baptist was beheaded. This closes the prophetic age and the New Testament age begins.

The prophetic age began with Elijah and Elisha, in time they would lead 50 prophets to take the message of God's judgment on Israel, and eventually, Judah. Even while they preached dire judgment the prophets always proclaimed the restoration of the kingdom, and mind you, they started preaching when Israel was at it's peak. This was not a pleasant message, the prophets mourned for the sins of Israel which is why they wore such uncomfortable clothing, they were grieving.

Now the long promised Messiah had finally arrived, for a thousand years they had faithfully preached of his coming. As John said, 'he must increase and I must decrease' (John 3:30), he says this immediately following Jesus Sermon on the Mount and Jesus conversation with Nicodemus. Just as we look forward to the return of Christ the nation of Israel had long yearned for the coming of the Messiah. The prophets had held their charge, they faithfully preached the Word of God and with the commission of the Apostles, they would now hear the good news.

When the prophetic age began Elijah and Elisha performed more miracles then Israel had seen since Moses and Joshua. Those miracles confirm the message that was going out in all three ages of revelation, a new level of revelation had begun. Jesus did not come mourning, this was a time of celebration, thus the contrast between the preaching of John and the ministry of Jesus.

I don't want to belabor this point but it is very important to realize, the prophets yearned for this day with every fiber of their being. Being called to be a prophet in the Old Testament was to spend your life in perpetual mourning, they suffered bitter persecution. With the coming of the Messiah their mourning could finally turn to joy.

Grace and peace,
Mark
 
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John the Baptist was the most righteous man to ever live... and he lived in the wilderness, eating insects and wearing minimal clothing. But why?

We that live in the country never think about these type of things. The answer to your question is because he was an on top of the mountain kind of guy.
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We that live in the country never think about these type of things. The answer to your question is because he was an on top of the mountain kind of guy.
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Jesus would get up in the mornings and go out into isolated places, so he could pray. Probably something like that.
 
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Jesus would get up in the mornings and go out into isolated places, so he could pray. Probably something like that.

John the Baptist has always been one of my heroes. When he mentioned so often repentance I knew he was talking to me -- for oh how I needed it.
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John the Baptist has always been one of my heroes. When he mentioned so often repentance I knew he was talking to me -- for oh how I needed it.
M-Bob
That sounds like the proper response to a prophet like John, repentance. That was never enough, it doesn't necessarily provide righteousness, it's just a critical first step. When Jesus came to John to be baptized he said I need to be baptized by you, Jesus responds it's necessary to fulfill all righteousness. When women were married in that day they were baptized, they were leaving their old life as a child behind, they were starting their new life as a wife and mother.

John's ministry was vital to ushering the coming of the Messiah, baptism was about more then putting away your sin. Embracing righteousness is the new life, it's the one thing the prophets didn't really understand. That message didn't come until Christ, yet repentance has always been and always will be the gateway to the promise of the gospel.

Grace and peace,
Mark
 
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Jesus basically said that John the Baptist was the most righteous man to ever live... and he lived in the wilderness, eating insects and wearing minimal clothing. But why?

My guess is that he was staying away from all worldly distractions at all costs so that he could be completely focused on God and not be influenced by the sinful societies of the world... because he feared God and how holy He is.

Anyone have any other ideas why John the Baptist lived the way he did? In the wilderness eating locusts and honey, wearing camel hair and a leather belt?
Jesus is our example, so do not take much from the way John lived.

John is a contrast in many ways to Jesus which is good, you have the full gamut of life styles.

We should not take John’s example of living away from people, because people came to him in large numbers and that would not happen to us if we lived in the wilderness.
 
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