Whatb are the differences between Southern Baptist and Independent Baptist?

[PatrickJ]

Thanks

 

[arunma]

I've found that in general, the Independent Baptists tend to believe in KJV-onlyism, whereas Southern Baptists tend to value textual criticism and modern translations.

But I'm neither Independent nor Southern Baptist, so I don't want to give any misinformation...

 

[jones_of_pbf]

Many Southern Baptists do use different versions of the Bible.
My church used the NASB with our previous pastor, but switched to the NKJ with our new pastor.
Personally I won't use the NIV because I've found and entire section missing in every NIV.
I think it's part of the book of Matthew.

 

[MrJim]

SBC is a denom organization while independents are doing their own thing without any denom overhead.

 

[rainbowpromise]

I've found that in general, the Independent Baptists tend to believe in KJV-onlyism, whereas Southern Baptists tend to value textual criticism and modern translations.

But I'm neither Independent nor Southern Baptist, so I don't want to give any misinformation...

I am Independant Baptist and I use KJV but our congregation is not KJV only. In fact several other Independant Baptists have broken fellowship with us because we won't agree to KJV only.

 

[rainbowpromise]

SBC is a denom organization while independents are doing their own thing without any denom overhead.

Our pastor answers to a mission board, but our congregation is governed by our members.

 

[Phileoeklogos]

SBC is an association of Baptists churches, not a denomination, all member churches are self governing. The primary purpose of the Convention is missions.

Whats the difference between SBC and Independents, well both are independent, no church is held by the SBC, so really it's a matter of association, some IBC's are just like SBC's, although probably rare, their is nothing that says a SBC can't be KJV only, the one thing you may or may not find in an IBC that you'll not find in SBC's is Landmarkism. Alot of what you'll find in either will depend on the congregation and pastor.

I have been in an IBC that is probably alot more like what most people would think an SBC is like, versus where I go to church, the only way you find out we are an SBC church is to ask, we don't have a big sign that say's SBC.

 

[JPPT1974]

I am SB and have been and will die one
To be honest with you all.

 

[Razorbuck]

IFB's tend to have better pot-lucks, often involving fatback and turnip greens, while the Southern Baptists in general have a higher quality scald on their fried chicken. By most accounts it's a wash when it comes to the tater salad.

Hope this helps.

Edit: It should be noted that I speak in general terms only, as there is of course an exception to every rule. My wife, for instance, who is a devout Independent Baptist, can fry a yardbird that will stand among anything offered by the SBC.

- MB

 

[rainbowpromise]

IFB's tend to have better pot-lucks, often involving fatback and turnip greens, while the Southern Baptists in general have a higher quality scald on their fried chicken. By most accounts it's a wash when it comes to the tater salad.

Hope this helps.

Our IFB fellowship dinners (we don't call them potlucks) usually have a variety of cooking styles. German, British, Mexican and Oriental.

 

[Flynmonkie]

IFB's tend to have better pot-lucks, often involving fatback and turnip greens,

 

[rainbowpromise]

What is fatback? And you eat the turnip greens? I mulch them into my garden.

 

[llghoney]

So why not just say Baptist? Instead of Southern Baptist or IFB?

 

[JPPT1974]

IFB's tend to have better pot-lucks, often involving fatback and turnip greens, while the Southern Baptists in general have a higher quality scald on their fried chicken. By most accounts it's a wash when it comes to the tater salad.

Hope this helps.

Edit: It should be noted that I speak in general terms only, as there is of course an exception to every rule. My wife, for instance, who is a devout Independent Baptist, can fry a yardbird that will stand among anything offered by the SBC.

- MB

Well at least I know that IFB now has potluck lunches or dinners. Wished that SBC did the same thing!

 

[thepianist]

So why not just say Baptist? Instead of Southern Baptist or IFB?

I couldn't agree more!!! I grew up in Southern Baptist churches.....have been in 'independent' Baptist churches for the last 20 years. To my way of thinking, a Baptist should be a 'Baptist' ..... that is believe the main things that make us that denomination.......once saved, always saved.....that's a BIG one. Baptism by immersion is another.

Potluck - dinner on the grounds - have always been in my life no matter what the label was on the 'Baptist' church.

 

[Dondi]

Most of the SBCs I've been to have been fairly liberal, while the IBCs tend to be more conservative, particularly in the manner of modesty.

I also found that a good gauge in any Baptist church is how well mannered are the teens. If the church has strong, modest, behaved, soul-winning, active, honest, unified, God-loving teens it is a reflection of that church. I thank God I found such a church in the IBC that I'm a member of. My daughter is very comfortable and accepted by the all the youth there.

Before finding the church, I went to a popular SBC in town on Easter. And found it wanting. Some of the teens were dressed in t-shirts and jeans, for crying out loud, and seemed unruly, unbehaved. And this was an Easter service??? The pastor had a watered down sermon and a lame invitation. He didn't even close the service in prayer.

Appearances are everything, and sometimes true. I'm not trying to diss all SBCs. I'm sure there are good SBCs and bad IBCs too. Heck, I was saved in an SBC, so I can't complain too much.

 

[Razorbuck]

What is fatback? And you eat the turnip greens? I mulch them into my garden.

Mulch?? Say it ain't so!

Fatback is a hunk of fatty meat, usually salt-cured but sometimes smoked, from the back (sometimes side) portion of a hog. It is cooked with the turnip greens, though some folks cook the greens with smoked neck bones then add the fatback grease and drippings as a seasoning. It's a matter of personal taste, I reckon. Either way, with a big pan of cornbread, it's a fine meal!

 

[Salamis]

I have been in both and what it boils down to is how the church is 'governed' as Phil touched on. Southern Babtist are 'overseen' if you will by the SBA. They have guidelines they must follow. Independants are governed by themselves 'Theocraticly' hopefully run by God only through prayer. This is how it is suppose to be anyway, obviously some independants are run by the leaders of the church without one minute spent on their knees. Either way, the church is 'suppose' to be run by God, through God's will and the SBA tends to be run by man alone. Not to say that there are not a lot of awesome SB Churches out there. I'm just stating simantects to give you an idea of the differences and why they are there.

 

[rainbowpromise]

Mulch?? Say it ain't so!

Fatback is a hunk of fatty meat, usually salt-cured but sometimes smoked, from the back (sometimes side) portion of a hog. It is cooked with the turnip greens, though some folks cook the greens with smoked neck bones then add the fatback grease and drippings as a seasoning. It's a matter of personal taste, I reckon. Either way, with a big pan of cornbread, it's a fine meal!

I think I know why we mulch. Rutabaga grows better here and is a fall crop. The greens are tough on them. I think I tried to plant turnip in my garden once but their season lines up with the bugs and worms so the crop is lost.

 

[aReformedPatriot]

I have been in both and what it boils down to is how the church is 'governed' as Phil touched on. Southern Babtist are 'overseen' if you will by the SBA. They have guidelines they must follow. Independants are governed by themselves 'Theocraticly' hopefully run by God only through prayer.

Southern Baptist Churches are not "Overseen" by either the State Conventions or the National Convention. They are independantly governed by the local congregation. The church as a whole voluntarily joins an association which has standards of joining. But the Association has no authority to affect that church's autonomy. The Association can disfellowship with that church or that church can disfellowship with the Association at any time.

The purpose of joining an association is mainly for the pursuit and support of missions wether at home or abroad (NAMB; IMB) and it again must be reiterated that these associations are completely voluntary. Jesus Christ is our head. Elders (pastors) shepherd and teach the local congregation in accordance with the Bible and by prayer.