What if there is a way for all humanity to avoid the calamities of the last days?

[GlorytoGod01]

If, on the last day, there were a way for many to avoid the preordained judgment and calamities and not be cast into the lake of fire, would Christians take interest in it and choose that path?

Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

These two passages in Revelation suggest different circumstances. What if these events are not necessarily fulfilled together, but only one aspect is realized? From this perspective, if non-believers and many others could avoid the judgment and disasters they are destined to face, would Christians choose righteousness?

 

[linux.poet]

Would God actually allow Musk to establish a colony on Mars? Those colonizers might avoid *some* of the Tribulation judgements.

But not all, because the firmament gets melted along with the earth, so any Martian unbeliever survivors would die in that meltdown and get thrown into the Lake of Fire.

It’s interesting to think about though.

 

[GlorytoGod01]

Would God actually allow Musk to establish a colony on Mars? Those colonizers might avoid *some* of the Tribulation judgements.

But not all, because the firmament gets melted along with the earth, so any Martian unbeliever survivors would die in that meltdown and get thrown into the Lake of Fire.

It’s interesting to think about though.

No,, I am not asking about someone you dislike being cast into the lake of fire. Rather, I am asking about those who, after the things that must happen, are destined to be thrown into the lake of fire (which could include myself). If there were a way described in Revelation for such people to avoid the lake of fire, would Christians have the will to make that vision a reality?

 

[Richard T]

No,, I am not asking about someone you dislike being cast into the lake of fire. Rather, I am asking about those who, after the things that must happen, are destined to be thrown into the lake of fire (which could include myself). If there were a way described in Revelation for such people to avoid the lake of fire, would Christians have the will to make that vision a reality?

You seem to think that salvation is not secure for Christians. When Jesus is Lord you are sealed with the Holy Spirit, that "nothing can separate us from the love of God." Why do you think that you might get thrown into the lake of fire? I admit some think that destiny is pre-ordained, but instead of that every man has a choice. It is found in Romans 1,
Romans 1:20-21 (KJV)
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Can someone repent at any time? yes.

 

[Laodicean60]

If, on the last day, there were a way for many to avoid the preordained judgment and calamities

I don't think there's a way to stop the end times but I believe we can prolong it from happening. It's a simple concept but the hardest thing to do is Love your neighbor with no negative judgment. But as it stands we are in lockstep with God's scripture. God showed what we do to ourselves and one of them is wars.

 

[GlorytoGod01]

You seem to think that salvation is not secure for Christians. When Jesus is Lord you are sealed with the Holy Spirit, that "nothing can separate us from the love of God." Why do you think that you might get thrown into the lake of fire? I admit some think that destiny is pre-ordained, but instead of that every man has a choice. It is found in Romans 1,
Romans 1:20-21 (KJV)
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Can someone repent at any time? yes.

Let us deeply examine God’s Word and His intentions. If we were to discuss the justification for why they must face destruction, it is not solely because they do not believe in the Lord’s blood.
There is more to it, and that is precisely why the Book of Revelation exists.

Assuming believers are saved, what is the reason unbelievers must necessarily face judgment? Is it merely because they do not believe? Could it be that God might extend mercy through the "Grace" of [Lord] Jesus Christ? This grace is what distinguishes between those destined for the "Lake of fire" and those who are "Outside." The vision separating those who will enter the lake of fire from those who will remain outside reflects events that must happen, yet it also embodies the free will to choose!

 

[Maria Billingsley]

If, on the last day, there were a way for many to avoid the preordained judgment and calamities and not be cast into the lake of fire, would Christians take interest in it and choose that path?



These two passages in Revelation suggest different circumstances. What if these events are not necessarily fulfilled together, but only one aspect is realized? From this perspective, if non-believers and many others could avoid the judgment and disasters they are destined to face, would Christians choose righteousness?

We all have a choice to repent from unbelief to belief. This choice is not preordained, it is our sole responsibility. Additionally, it is His will be done, not ours ,on judgment day. I am not at all sure what kind of version one can make into reality other than repentance for a different outcome.
Blessings

 

[GlorytoGod01]

Thank you for your opinion. but, then how does the message of Revelation 1:3 apply?
If one refuses to seek understanding simply because they do not know or because it seems risky...

Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

 

[eleos1954]

If, on the last day, there were a way for many to avoid the preordained judgment and calamities and not be cast into the lake of fire, would Christians take interest in it and choose that path?



These two passages in Revelation suggest different circumstances. What if these events are not necessarily fulfilled together, but only one aspect is realized? From this perspective, if non-believers and many others could avoid the judgment and disasters they are destined to face, would Christians choose righteousness?

The bible is clear ...

The judgment has taken place when Christ returns. The timing of Christ's return is unknown.

• Hebrews 9:27–28: Christ will appear a second time in judgment to save his followers.
  
  
• John 5:26-29: Jesus said that everyone who has died will be raised from the dead and be judged. (2 separate resurrections)
  
  
• Revelation 19:15, 20, 21: The judgment will be over all the unbelievers on the earth for all time
  
  
• Rom 2:5–16; 2Cor 5:10; Rev 20:11–13: All humanity will be divinely judged . Those in Christ will be pardoned and escape the 2nd death.
  
  
• 2Cor 5:10; Rev 20:14–21:8: Everyone will receive the appropriate reward or punishment.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

If, on the last day, there were a way for many to avoid the preordained judgment and calamities and not be cast into the lake of fire, would Christians take interest in it and choose that path?



These two passages in Revelation suggest different circumstances. What if these events are not necessarily fulfilled together, but only one aspect is realized? From this perspective, if non-believers and many others could avoid the judgment and disasters they are destined to face, would Christians choose righteousness?

Speculatively, yes. Interpretively, no.