What does it mean?

[Xeno.of.athens]

The Southern Baptist Convention's decision not to incorporate the Nicene Creed into their statement of faith does not necessarily imply a rejection of the creed. While many Protestant denominations include the Nicene Creed and other creeds in their statements of faith, the Southern Baptist Convention may have reasons related to their own doctrinal positions or traditions for not adopting it formally. It's important to consider the specific theological and historical context of each denomination when interpreting such decisions. So, what does the SBC decision mean?

 

[Clare73]

The Southern Baptist Convention's decision not to incorporate the Nicene Creed into their statement of faith does not necessarily imply a rejection of the creed. While many Protestant denominations include the Nicene Creed and other creeds in their statements of faith, the Southern Baptist Convention may have reasons related to their own doctrinal positions or traditions for not adopting it formally. It's important to consider the specific theological and historical context of each denomination when interpreting such decisions. So, what does the SBC decision mean?

Probably that they don't want to be linked with Catholicism, or they want to be subject only to the Bible. More likely the latter.

 

[hislegacy]

The Southern Baptist Convention's decision not to incorporate the Nicene Creed into their statement of faith does not necessarily imply a rejection of the creed. While many Protestant denominations include the Nicene Creed and other creeds in their statements of faith, the Southern Baptist Convention may have reasons related to their own doctrinal positions or traditions for not adopting it formally. It's important to consider the specific theological and historical context of each denomination when interpreting such decisions. So, what does the SBC decision mean?

Do you have a link from the SBC showing their statement?

 

[hislegacy]

"nicene creed" - SBC.net

www.sbc.net

A search of their site came up empty.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

"nicene creed" - SBC.net

www.sbc.net

A search of their site came up empty.

Southern Baptists Do Not Adopt Nicene Creed at Annual Meeting

While most expected the battles over women’s ordination and sexual abuse reform to continue at this year’s meeting of the SBC, another debate emerged, revealing mixed feelings among the denomination’s ranks about the Nicene Creed.

churchleaders.com

 

[hislegacy]

I did find this:

Home Christian News Southern Baptists Do Not Adopt Nicene Creed at Annual Meeting​

Southern Baptists Do Not Adopt Nicene Creed at Annual Meeting​

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Dale Chamberlain

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I’m a little careful, a little skittish about too much ecumenism,” Allen said.​

“And I think the Nicene Creed, while generally is a very good creed and it’s certainly been accepted by many traditions,” Allen added, “there are still a couple issues of wording in that creed that could be interpreted to foment or to produce doctrines or concepts of doctrines that we as Baptists would reject.”​

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“Though the language is directly from Scripture in Acts, the language was interpreted by many among the Church Fathers and by many today who use the creed to mean baptismal regeneration. Baptists would reject such an interpretation,” Allen said. “If that language is interpreted to mean that we are baptized ‘because of’ the forgiveness of sins, which is the meaning in the Greek New Testament I might add, then there is no problem with the statement.”​

“The Nicene Creed is otherwise a strong Trinitarian document affirming the biblical doctrine of the Trinity,” he added. “Baptists can wholeheartedly endorse it when properly interpreted.” Allen said that he would not oppose the addition of the Nicene Creed to the BFM “with proper clarification.”​

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NOTE: Mr Chamberlain does not speak for the Baptist Convention

He finishes his opinion piece with this:

None of the three motions to add the Nicene Creed to the BFM were brought to a vote. Two were referred to the SBC’s Executive Committee for evaluation over the coming year, and the third was ruled out of order for being presented in the nature of a resolution.​

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Hope that helps​

 

[hislegacy]

Southern Baptists Do Not Adopt Nicene Creed at Annual Meeting

While most expected the battles over women’s ordination and sexual abuse reform to continue at this year’s meeting of the SBC, another debate emerged, revealing mixed feelings among the denomination’s ranks about the Nicene Creed.

churchleaders.com

Right - that is NOT their site - thanks you.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Right - that is NOT their site - thanks you.

About the SBC - SBC.net

SBC Governing Documents Charter Constitution Bylaws Business and Financial Plan Ministry Assignments Legal Names and Addresses Trustee Directories Fast Facts SBC Structure Explained Southern Baptist Entities & Seminaries SBC Executive Committee International Mission Board North American Mission...

www.sbc.net

 

[d taylor]

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Information about this will eventually be published in The Baptist Record. SBC -
Home - Mississippi Baptist Convention Board

But form now here a little information
From a Baptist website

Baptists, however, have prided themselves on being “not a creedal people.” A historic declaration taught in Baptist seminaries for centuries is that Baptists “have no creed but the Bible.”

 

[hislegacy]

About the SBC - SBC.net

SBC Governing Documents Charter Constitution Bylaws Business and Financial Plan Ministry Assignments Legal Names and Addresses Trustee Directories Fast Facts SBC Structure Explained Southern Baptist Entities & Seminaries SBC Executive Committee International Mission Board North American Mission...

www.sbc.net

the article you quoted from was from:

churchleaders.com

Which is different from the SBC

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

the article you quoted from was from:

churchleaders.com

Which is different from the SBC

Yes, that is correct.

 

[AlexB23]

Yo, my brother @Vambram , as you are Baptist, can you explain the SBC decision, and whether you agree or disagree with the SBC on not adopting the Nicene Creed? Will some baptists personally adopt the Nicene creed even if the SBC does not?

 

[BobRyan]

The Southern Baptist Convention's decision not to incorporate the Nicene Creed into their statement of faith does not necessarily imply a rejection of the creed. While many Protestant denominations include the Nicene Creed and other creeds in their statements of faith, the Southern Baptist Convention may have reasons related to their own doctrinal positions or traditions for not adopting it formally. It's important to consider the specific theological and historical context of each denomination when interpreting such decisions. So, what does the SBC decision mean?

SBC is not creedal.

Neither is SDA.

They both argue for "sola scriptura" as their basis for doctrine -- not "creeds".,

So while we agree with a given creed it is not our guide -- the Bible is. I suspect Southern Baptists have a similar stand.

from: About the SBC - SBC.net
"Southern Baptists have summarized their biblical convictions in a statement of faith called The Baptist Faith and Message. Southern Baptists are not a creedal people, requiring churches or individuals to embrace a standardized set of beliefs; but we are a confessional people."

 

[Tuur]

The SBC may not be into creeds, but it is confessions, which today are called statements of faith. Here is a link to the latest Faith and Message: Baptist Faith & Message 2000 - The Baptist Faith and Message

As to the Nicene Creed, I do know, anecdotally, that it was read in some Baptist churches in the early 20th Century. That same anecdote may explain some hesitancy at including the Nicene Creed. My mother was reading it aloud and when she got to the part one holy catholic apostolic church, she skipped over "catholic." After the service, the minister told her it was a reference to the church as a whole and not specifically the Roman Catholic church.

While we're on the subject, Baptist churches used to be big on the Church Covenant and would display it in the sanctuary. Lifeway publications sells the cards I remember that are printed with the Church Covenant. Since it's on their order site, I won't link to it, but it's easy to find.

 

[Vambram]

Yo, my brother @Vambram , as you are Baptist, can you explain the SBC decision, and whether you agree or disagree with the SBC on not adopting the Nicene Creed? Will some baptists personally adopt the Nicene creed even if the SBC does not?

I agree with the explanations given by BobRyan and Tuur.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Can a pastor in good standing with the Southern Baptist Convention agree to the Nicene creed in good faith?

 

[Clare73]

Can a pastor in good standing with the Southern Baptist Convention agree to the Nicene creed in good faith?

Yes, he can personally, but he can't require his congregation to do so.

 

[BobRyan]

Can a pastor in good standing with the Southern Baptist Convention agree to the Nicene creed in good faith?

Why would you doubt that he could do that?
In your POV do you think that a confessional group like SBCs are required to not agree with the Nicene creed??

What aspect of the Nicene creed do you see as being out of line with the "Baptist Faith and Message"?

Baptist Faith and Message - The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

Report of the Baptist Faith and Message Study Committee to the Southern Baptist Convention June 14, 2000.

www.sbts.edu

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Why would you doubt that he could do that?
In your POV do you think that a confessional group like SBCs are required to not agree with the Nicene creed??

What aspect of the Nicene creed do you see as being out of line with the "Baptist Faith and Message"?

Baptist Faith and Message - The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

Report of the Baptist Faith and Message Study Committee to the Southern Baptist Convention June 14, 2000.

www.sbts.edu

I asked about a Baptist pastor in good standing and the creed because the SBC rejected inclusion of the Nicene creed in their statements of faith.