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What did Jesus mean when he said "do not condemn and you will not be condemned"?

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In Luke 6:37 Jesus tells us not to condemn others and not to judge others. Does this mean that condemning others to hell is God's job? And warning people that they're going to hell is a bad thing? How are we to spread the gospel if we can't warn other people about hell? Is Jesus saying we can't tell people "I sentence you to hell for sinning against God and for denying Jesus." that obviously is God's job. But there has to be more to it than that. Just what did Jesus mean when he said we can't judge and condemn others? Obviously if our brother is sinning we should be allowed to point it out. Or is that God's job as well?
 
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In Luke 6:37 Jesus tells us not to condemn others and not to judge others.

Luke 6:36-38 Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful. (37) “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; (38) give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.”

Does this mean that condemning others to hell is God's job?

John 3:17-19 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. (18) Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. (19) And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.

And warning people that they're going to hell is a bad thing?
How are we to spread the gospel if we can't warn other people about hell?

I know of nowhere in the Bible where God commands us to not warn other people about Hell or that it is a bad thing. Luke 6:37 is not a prohibition of warning people about the reality of Hell.

Is Jesus saying we can't tell people "I sentence you to hell for sinning against God and for denying Jesus."

We don't sentence people to Hell. And as shown above from John 3:17-19, they already stand condemned for their sins against God. We are here to proclaim the Savior Jesus Christ who came to rescue them from their sin and condemnation.

Just what did Jesus mean when he said we can't judge and condemn others?

He was speaking of pridefully and hypocritically condemning others that we are tempted to do, instead of with humility and pleading with them to repent of their sins and trust in Jesus Christ.

Obviously if our brother is sinning we should be allowed to point it out. Or is that God's job as well?

James 5:19-20 My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, (20) let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.
 
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Who says spreading the Gospel is necessarily the same as warning people about hell?

In our tradition there's a big difference between God's Law and the Gospel, and one doesn't do the same thing as the other. Distinguishing them and correctly applying them is a skill that has to be taught. It's why we send people to seminary for years. If we don't have that vocation, we should be very careful we don't cause a scandal to the Gospel.
 
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Luke 6:36-38 Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful. (37) “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; (38) give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.”



John 3:17-19 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. (18) Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. (19) And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.




I know of nowhere in the Bible where God commands us to not warn other people about Hell or that it is a bad thing. Luke 6:37 is not a prohibition of warning people about the reality of Hell.



We don't sentence people to Hell. And as shown above from John 3:17-19, they already stand condemned for their sins against God. We are here to proclaim the Savior Jesus Christ who came to rescue them from their sin and condemnation.



He was speaking of pridefully and hypocritically condemning others that we are tempted to do, instead of with humility and pleading with them to repent of their sins and trust in Jesus Christ.



James 5:19-20 My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, (20) let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.

Good post. So basically when Jesus said don't condemn others he meant
don't sentence people to hell and that it's okay to warn others about the reality of hell? Basically, spread the gospel the proper way?
Because, it's like you said that John 3:17 says it's God that judges and condemns not us.
 
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In Luke 6:37 Jesus tells us not to condemn others and not to judge others. Does this mean that condemning others to hell is God's job? And warning people that they're going to hell is a bad thing? How are we to spread the gospel if we can't warn other people about hell? Is Jesus saying we can't tell people "I sentence you to hell for sinning against God and for denying Jesus." that obviously is God's job. But there has to be more to it than that. Just what did Jesus mean when he said we can't judge and condemn others? Obviously if our brother is sinning we should be allowed to point it out. Or is that God's job as well?

No one can come to Me unless he is enabled by the Father.

He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,

This is the thing about people who have been enabled by the Father: Every person who has or will accept Jesus as Lord and Savior has never been destined for hell. That person's destiny, known to God alone, was always heaven.

So if you say to someone who will accept the gospel, "You're going to hell," you've lied to him. He was never going to hell. He was always going to accept the gospel...if someone would ever actually give him the true gospel.

This is the thing about people who have been enabled by the Father: They already know something is wrong in their lives. Being enabled by the father discomfits a person with this life. One pastor has called that the "God-shaped hole" that can't be satisfactorily filled by anything else.

But what they need is the true gospel, and the true gospel--the "Good News" is not about condemnation...those enabled by the Father already feel condemnation, which is one of the roles of the Holy Spirit.

You don't have to convict them of sin--that's the Holy Spirit's job. He's the "bad cop." The gospel is that there is salvation--we are the "good cop."

For God did not send the Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.

I knew a woman in a former congregation who had been a prostitute. I heard the story of her conversion from two sources, one from the street pastor of our church who'd given her the gospel, then again from her own lips.

This was in Honolulu, and the church had just begun its street ministry in the notorious Hotel Street district of the city, which had been known for its prostitution since "From Here to Eternity." It was, in fact, their very first night. They set up at the corner and preached the sermon, with, predictably, almost nobody seeming to pay them any attention.

But as they packed up the lectern and began to head for their van, one prostitute walked up to the preacher and actually poked him in the chest with her finger, demanding: "What you said about everything being new in Christ and all the old things passing away...is that the truth?"

He assured her that it was.

She said, "Hmmm," but then walked away. As the group drove off, they compared their observations of the night and realized that woman had stayed within earshot the entire time. She had never appeared to be paying attention...but she also had never actually walked away.

The next Saturday, as soon as they had parked and started getting out of the van, they heard a shout from down the street and saw that woman running toward them. She stumbled in her high heels at one point, but ripped off the shoes and threw them into the street, running to them barefooted.

She gave herself to Jesus then and there.

Later, as I heard her giving her testimony, she said that there had been other street preachers who had pointed at her and told her she was going to hell.

And she'd accepted that. Her life was already hell, so, okay. Everyone else was already condemning her, so okay. Hell it is, then. Maybe they'd said something about "forgiveness," but the hell message had been clearly dominant--her sin was already so great, she was already carrying too much baggage. Heaven was obviously for people who'd only sinned a little bit.

This was the first time she'd heard "new creation." New creation--all the old would be gone.
 
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The only person you can condemn is yourself. When you judge, you are immediately judged. When you condemn, you are immediately condemned. These are commands to show you the way to abundant life.

It is not wrong to judge or condemn.....This is just to show you that you will be condemning yourself. So judge righteous judgements, so to reap righteous benefits.....if you like.

But not take my word for it....this can easily be proven. Start seeing good in others and watch good come to you.....start seeing negativity in others.....and watch how much easier it is to see and experience negativity all around you.

"Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things."
 
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No one can come to Me unless he is enabled by the Father.

He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,

This is the thing about people who have been enabled by the Father: Every person who has or will accept Jesus as Lord and Savior has never been destined for hell. That person's destiny, known to God alone, was always heaven.

So if you say to someone who will accept the gospel, "You're going to hell," you've lied to him. He was never going to hell. He was always going to accept the gospel...if someone would ever actually give him the true gospel.

This is the thing about people who have been enabled by the Father: They already know something is wrong in their lives. Being enabled by the father discomfits a person with this life. One pastor has called that the "God-shaped hole" that can't be satisfactorily filled by anything else.

But what they need is the true gospel, and the true gospel--the "Good News" is not about condemnation...those enabled by the Father already feel condemnation, which is one of the roles of the Holy Spirit.

You don't have to convict them of sin--that's the Holy Spirit's job. He's the "bad cop." The gospel is that there is salvation--we are the "good cop."

For God did not send the Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.

I knew a woman in a former congregation who had been a prostitute. I heard the story of her conversion from two sources, one from the street pastor of our church who'd given her the gospel, then again from her own lips.

This was in Honolulu, and the church had just begun its street ministry in the notorious Hotel Street district of the city, which had been known for its prostitution since "From Here to Eternity." It was, in fact, their very first night. They set up at the corner and preached the sermon, with, predictably, almost nobody seeming to pay them any attention.

But as they packed up the lectern and began to head for their van, one prostitute walked up to the preacher and actually poked him in the chest with her finger, demanding: "What you said about everything being new in Christ and all the old things passing away...is that the truth?"

He assured her that it was.

She said, "Hmmm," but then walked away. As the group drove off, they compared their observations of the night and realized that woman had stayed within earshot the entire time. She had never appeared to be paying attention...but she also had never actually walked away.

The next Saturday, as soon as they had parked and started getting out of the van, they heard a shout from down the street and saw that woman running toward them. She stumbled in her high heels at one point, but ripped off the shoes and threw them into the street, running to them barefooted.

She gave herself to Jesus then and there.

Later, as I heard her giving her testimony, she said that there had been other street preachers who had pointed at her and told her she was going to hell.

And she'd accepted that. Her life was already hell, so, okay. Everyone else was already condemning her, so okay. Hell it is, then. Maybe they'd said something about "forgiveness," but the hell message had been clearly dominant--her sin was already so great, she was already carrying too much baggage. Heaven was obviously for people who'd only sinned a little bit.

This was the first time she'd heard "new creation." New creation--all the old would be gone.

Great post. I think that prostitute is heavenbound too. I never really thought of salvation the way you did before. Everyone who accepts Jesus as their Lord and savior is heavenbound. There is one verse in the bible (I forget where) where Paul says that we cannot call Jesus Lord without the Holy Spirit. And we receive the Holy Spirit when we are born again. There's no way a born again person will ever go to hell. So those who call Jesus Lord are saved. So you think when Jesus said "do not condemn" he partially meant do not condemn believers? I agree. We should not condemn those who believe in Jesus.
 
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In Luke 6:37 Jesus tells us not to condemn others and not to judge others. Does this mean that condemning others to hell is God's job? And warning people that they're going to hell is a bad thing? How are we to spread the gospel if we can't warn other people about hell? Is Jesus saying we can't tell people "I sentence you to hell for sinning against God and for denying Jesus." that obviously is God's job. But there has to be more to it than that. Just what did Jesus mean when he said we can't judge and condemn others? Obviously if our brother is sinning we should be allowed to point it out. Or is that God's job as well?
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18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
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During medieval times or the Dark Age, the Roman Catholic Church and Popes falsely believed that they held the keys to heaven and hell, and had the holy power to judge and condemn disobedient Catholic Christians to hell, eg the Inquisition, the Galileo controversy, Martin Luther's protest, etc.
... Even the Roman Emperor or King was subject to the false religious power of the Popes, eg King Henry VIII's divorce.
 
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Great post. I think that prostitute is heavenbound too. I never really thought of salvation the way you did before. Everyone who accepts Jesus as their Lord and savior is heavenbound. There is one verse in the bible (I forget where) where Paul says that we cannot call Jesus Lord without the Holy Spirit. And we receive the Holy Spirit when we are born again. There's no way a born again person will ever go to hell. So those who call Jesus Lord are saved. So you think when Jesus said "do not condemn" he partially meant do not condemn believers? I agree. We should not condemn those who believe in Jesus.

We can't condemn any particular person, because we don't know what any particular person's eternal destiny is--particularly if that person has never heard the gospel of salvation.

Satan is the accuser--he is the one who speaks condemnation. We should be speaking salvation, all the time, every time.

If you're old enough, you may remember actor-activist Jane Fonda from the 70s, and if you do, you've likely despised her for the last 40 years. "Jane Fonda? Ptui!" It was an astounding surprise to me to hear about 15 years ago that Jane Fonda had accepted Christ. In fact, I didn't believe it, until I found her own testimony.

Jane Fonda was the daughter of reknown actor Henry Fonda--who unknown to most people had been a staunch atheist. He'd raised Jane as an atheist, and Jane had married atheists--the latest being communications mogul Ted Turner.

In her life, she'd basically heard nothing but condemnation. I have to admit, if I'd ever found myself sharing a plane row with her, I'd not have bothered talking to her about Jesus, either.

But when she got old, no longer so famous, no longer so instantly recognized...a woman told her about Jesus, and did it right.

But this is the thing: Jane Fonda's eternal destiny, known to God, had always been heaven, so for anyone to have ever said, "Jane Fonda is going to hell," would have been a lie.
 
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In Luke 6:37 Jesus tells us not to condemn others and not to judge others. Does this mean that condemning others to hell is God's job? And warning people that they're going to hell is a bad thing? How are we to spread the gospel if we can't warn other people about hell? Is Jesus saying we can't tell people "I sentence you to hell for sinning against God and for denying Jesus." that obviously is God's job. But there has to be more to it than that. Just what did Jesus mean when he said we can't judge and condemn others? Obviously if our brother is sinning we should be allowed to point it out. Or is that God's job as well?

If your brother is sinning you may point them out, under certain conditions.
First follow the 88 verses below before you say anything.
61 Bible verses about Silence - Knowing Jesus
27 Bible verses about Judging Others - Knowing Jesus

 
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Obviously if our brother is sinning we should be allowed to point it out.

You can... but if there is a beam in your eye, are you seeing correctly? The more we are concerned about the sins of other the less we are concerned with our own. We aren't to be judges who render a verdict and a sentence. We are saved by mercy and grace, and that is what we must share. We are here to proclaim a way out, to point to Christ who says He is the Way. We are not here to bar the Way. The only person we can bar it from turns out to be ourselves.
 
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In Luke 6:37 Jesus tells us not to condemn others and not to judge others. Does this mean that condemning others to hell is God's job?
No. YHWH'S (God's) Plan and Purpose in Jesus is Salvation from the world and eternal life instead of death, as His Word Says (not as men say).
And warning people that they're going to hell is a bad thing? How are we to spread the gospel if we can't warn other people about hell?
Jesus often warned the Apostles and disciples of the dangers of not entering YHWH'S Kingdom, of not being forgiven, of not being Redeemed by the Blood of the Lamb Who was Slain for our sakes.
The Apostles and disciples OFTEN warned others the same way,
as written in the NT Epistles. Jesus trains us to be LIGHTS in the midst of darkness, not judges, but being the only ones with the word of reconciliation to the world, messengers from YHWH (God). Warnings and blessings as YHWH directs.
Is Jesus saying we can't tell people "I sentence you to hell for sinning against God and for denying Jesus." that obviously is God's job. But there has to be more to it than that. Just what did Jesus mean when he said we can't judge and condemn others?
Really now? "I sentence you" !?
But the same GOOD NEWS MESSAGE that is a sweet aroma of life to those destined for LIFE! is
a stench of death for those destined for judgment.
Yes, the SAME MESSAGE to one is LIFE!, to others is death,
just as Jesus is NOT salvation to everyone, but only to all those the Father in heaven gives to Him.
The many warnings about sin and wickedness and evil in the hearts of people (may warnings given by Jesus to beleivers)
are more frequent than the messages about blessing and heaven,
because that is how YHWH Planned, and very often thus, warnings is what people need (even people who think/have been deceived/ that they are 'saved'/believers right up until JUDGMENT DAY and find out then they aren't).
Obviously if our brother is sinning we should be allowed to point it out. Or is that God's job as well?
YHWH not only allows this, but in His Word gives Clear Instructions and explains the necessity of watching out for each other (IN the body of Christ, IN ekklesia) graciously and with the purpose of everyone's being saved in the body and not falling into sin and more sin nor continuing in sin (as many do today, without heeding the warnings).
 
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When there is a beam in your eye, what is the Biblical Direction ? (people seem to miss this ALL the time)

To take it out first of course. However, in my experience, that will require a lifetime.
 
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To take it out first of course. However, in my experience, that will require a lifetime.
Then what is lacking in your experience ?
All the messengers of YHWH in the NT who remained faithful
were even sifted by hasatan,
then recovered ,
and turned to help others likewise sifted.
To keep living with a beam in the eye is , I expect, very sinful indeed,
and never recommended in YHWH'S Instructions (just the opposite in fact - get the beam out, as He Says).
 
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