Wayne Grudem is voting for Trump

[the seeing servant]

http://townhall.com/columnists/wayn...onald-trump-is-a-morally-good-choice-n2199564

I disagree with Dr. Grudem and here is my response to his article
https://thesystemsscientist.com/2016/07/04/is-trump-the-evangelicals-new-drug-for-political-power/

 

[kingskid]

You state.....Lastly According to the Apostle Paul in Galatians 1:8 those that preach a different Gospel message then the ones that the Apostles have preached that they should be under God’s curse. So how could I, or any Christian vote for someone that according to the Apostle Paul be under God’s curse?

The problem I see is that Trump was not preaching. It is clear that Trump is part of the world, the same as all the candidates look to be.

What should we do as Christian? Not vote at all?

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[J Cord]

http://townhall.com/columnists/wayn...onald-trump-is-a-morally-good-choice-n2199564

I disagree with Dr. Grudem and here is my response to his article
https://thesystemsscientist.com/2016/07/04/is-trump-the-evangelicals-new-drug-for-political-power/

I disagree as well. From the article:

I do not think that voting for Donald Trump is a morally evil choice because there is nothing morally wrong with voting for a flawed candidate if you think he will do more good for the nation than his opponent. In fact, it is the morally right thing to do.

As Top Republicans agree, Trump courts the racist vote, and imo that should disqualify him as a moral choice for POTUS. The POTUS should represent all the people, and a person who stoops to such despicable tactics by definition does not. IMO it is immoral to support racism.

 

[kingskid]

I disagree as well. From the article:

I do not think that voting for Donald Trump is a morally evil choice because there is nothing morally wrong with voting for a flawed candidate if you think he will do more good for the nation than his opponent. In fact, it is the morally right thing to do.

As Top Republicans agree, Trump courts the racist vote, and imo that should disqualify him as a moral choice for POTUS. The POTUS should represent all the people, and a person who stoops to such despicable tactics by definition does not. IMO it is immoral to support racism.

Trump does not support racism but simply wishes to protect US citizens interest. The liberals want to brand it as racism. The real racism falls with the Dems and the BLM movement. Obama and Hillary are a big faction in that.

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[J Cord]

Trump does not support racism but simply wishes to protect US citizens interest. The liberals want to brand it as racism.

So the Republican leaders who say Trump is racist, and/or using racism, are liberals? Sorry but that doesn't make sense.

The real racism falls with the Dems and the BLM movement. Obama and Hillary are a big faction in that.

I'm not sure what you are saying. Are you saying pointing out racism is racist behaviour?

 

[kingskid]

The liberals originally branded Trump as racist and the Republicans that wanted an out fell in line with that branding.

Why say black lives matter as opposed to all lives matter? Yes BLM is racist.

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[cow451]

IOW, he isn't Hillary.

 

[J Cord]

The liberals originally branded Trump as racist and the Republicans that wanted an out fell in line with that branding.

So you're saying it had nothing to do with Trump courting the racists?

Why say black lives matter as opposed to all lives matter? Yes BLM is racist.

That would have to do with the centuries long oppression of black people in the USA. Do you know that when I was alive, Blacks were not allowed to drink out of the same water fountains as Whites? That's not ancient history from another time, that's in my lifetime. That in my lifetime, a black man was killed for using a white-only restroom? That I can remember watching this on the news? This isn't ancient history, this is the experience of some of the people in BLM.

 

[kingskid]

Trump is not courting racists any more than Hillary with BLM.

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[SepiaAndDust]

Why say black lives matter as opposed to all lives matter?

Because all lives aren't being specifically targeted by police.

 

[cow451]

Because all lives aren't being specifically targeted by police.

The only "Black" life that "matters" to the Right is the one currently sitting in the White House.

 

[BlueBrown]

The liberals originally branded Trump as racist and the Republicans that wanted an out fell in line with that branding.

Why say black lives matter as opposed to all lives matter? Yes BLM is racist.

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I'm a conservative. I think Trump is courting the Racist vote.

And you don't understand BLM so I'll leave that one alone.

 

[kingskid]

I don't understand why any of you would be worried about it.

Trump won't win unless it is part of God's plan. If it is God's plan nothing will stop him.

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[BlueBrown]

I don't understand why any of you would be worried about it.

Trump won't win unless it is part of God's plan. If it is God's plan nothing will stop him.

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What a cop out.

 

[kingskid]

Praising God is a cop out? Is this a Christian forum?

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[SepiaAndDust]

I don't understand why any of you would be worried about it.

Trump won't win unless it is part of God's plan. If it is God's plan nothing will stop him.

Why go to work? If it's God's plan that you'll be able to pay your bills, buy food, and send your kids to college, then nothing will stop that.

 

[kingskid]

Because we are suppose to occupy until He comes. That means doing every day things like working and voting.

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[SepiaAndDust]

Because we are suppose to occupy until He comes. That means doing every day things like working and voting.

Then you've answered your own question.

 

[kingskid]

To be worried? I don't believe so.

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[Hank77]

From the OP article.....
Fire Chief Kelvin Cochran in Atlanta was removed from his job because of self-publishing a religious book that briefly mentioned the Bible’s teachings regarding non-marital sexual conduct, including homosexuality, amidst a host of other topics.

What are some of the facts?
That book, city spokeswoman Anne Torres told Channel 2 in Atlanta, was distributed to some of Cochran’s employees. “We understand that he was distributing the book to other employees. We are still not sure what the circumstances surrounding them are,” Torres said. “The bottom line is that the [Mayor Kasim] Reed administration does not tolerate discrimination of any kind.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ous-book-to-employees/?utm_term=.d127d304d7d5

It was NOT just because a published a book with his views. It was because he distributed that book to some employees and some employees complained. And there is more to the story because even then he was not fired simply for that.
I have not investigated the other claims made by the author of the OP article, but if this is how he supports his view of 'why Christians should vote for Trump' I find him to be rather disingenuous, maybe even lying, at this point from what I have read.