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Was the modern state of Israel created by The Rothschilds and The British Empire or God ?

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Now let us read what happened later.
Here is what actually happened. N.B. Who attacked whom and when!

The Arab-Israeli War of 1948 broke out when five [5] Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate [which included Israel, Jordan, the west bank and Gaza NOT: Palestine, which did not exist] immediately following the announcement of the independence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948. In 1947, and again on May 14, 1948, [by Jews living in the Palestinian mandate. Thus the Jews/Israelis have just as much right, if not more, as any other group to live in Israel] the United States had offered de facto recognition of the Israeli Provisional Government, but during the war, the United States maintained an arms embargo against all belligerents . . . .Though the United Nations brokered two cease-fires during the conflict, fighting continued into 1949. Israel and the Arab states did not reach any formal armistice agreements until February. Under separate agreements between Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt, Lebanon, Transjordan, and Syria, these bordering nations agreed to formal armistice lines. Israel gained some territory formerly granted to Palestinian Arabs under the United Nations resolution in 1947. Egypt and Jordan retained control over the Gaza Strip and the West Bank respectively. These armistice lines held until 1967. [6 day war in which Israel prevailed]

 
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Benjamin Freedman explains in his speech at the Willard Hotel, 1961, that England was losing WWI and seriously considering Germany’s status quo ante peace terms and that the Balfour Declaration was the result Zionist promising to get America into the war if England gave them Palestine after the victory.
 
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First, the name “Palestine” does NOT occur in the Bible or the Qur’an. There is NOT now and has NEVER been and NO so-called Palestinian has ever resided in, and has NEVER, in any capacity whatsoever, governed any part of a sovereign state/country/nation or independent political entity named Palestine.” Palestine” did NOT and does NOT exist! Prior to 1967 some Arab Muslims, as they were then called, lived in the former British Palestinian mandate, which included the land now known as Israel. The governing body was the British government, NEVER any so-called Palestinian.” The so-called “Palestinians” wrongly claim that the land of Israel is Palestine. In the 1988 HamAss covenant, see link below, Israel is called Palestine 29 times. Article 15 of the covenant, wrongly identifies Israel as Palestine by saying the ca, 685AD “al-Aqsa mosque,” is “in Palestine.” The al-Aqsa mosque was built on the foundation of Solomon’s ca. 957BC, 1,642 years earlier, temple which is in Jerusalem, in Israel, NOT Palestine. HamAss 1988 Covenant Article 15 “Palestine contains Islamic holy sites. In it there is al- Aqsa Mosque which is bound to the great Mosque in Mecca in an inseparable bond as long as heaven and earth speak of Isra` (Mohammed's midnight journey to the seven heavens) and Mi'raj (Mohammed's ascension to the seven heavens from Jerusalem).” The 1988 HamAss covenant has been superseded by the 2015 covenant but Israel is still wrongly called “Palestine” 41 times in the 2015 covenant

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988
 
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@Canuckster
First, the name “Palestine” does NOT occur in the Bible or the Qur’an. There is NOT now and has NEVER been and NO so-called Palestinian has ever resided in, and has NEVER, in any capacity whatsoever, governed any part of a sovereign state/country/nation or independent political entity named Palestine.” Palestine” did NOT and does NOT exist! Prior to 1967 some Arab Muslims, as they were then called, lived in the former British Palestinian mandate, which included the land now known as Israel. The governing body was the British government, NEVER any so-called Palestinian.” The so-called “Palestinians” wrongly claim that the land of Israel is Palestine. In the 1988 HamAss covenant, see link below, Israel is called Palestine 29 times. Article 15 of the covenant, wrongly identifies Israel as Palestine by saying the ca, 685AD “al-Aqsa mosque,” is “in Palestine.” The al-Aqsa mosque was built on the foundation of Solomon’s ca. 957BC, 1,642 years earlier, temple which is in Jerusalem, in Israel, NOT Palestine. HamAss 1988 Covenant Article 15 “Palestine contains Islamic holy sites. In it there is al- Aqsa Mosque which is bound to the great Mosque in Mecca in an inseparable bond as long as heaven and earth speak of Isra` (Mohammed's midnight journey to the seven heavens) and Mi'raj (Mohammed's ascension to the seven heavens from Jerusalem).” The 1988 HamAss covenant has been superseded by the 2015 covenant but Israel is still wrongly called “Palestine” 41 times in the 2015 covenant

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988



"Syria Palaestin[a]" mentioned in a 139 A.D. Roman Military Diploma


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Palestine in 350 A.D. according to Eusbius and Jerome (map as reconstructed by George Adam Smith, 1915)


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"Syria Palaestin[a]" mentioned in a 139 A.D. Roman Military Diploma
Wiki? Let's get serious here. The region from Turkey to Egypt was named Palestin[a] by the Romans, NOT the inhabitants of the region, as an insult to the Jews because the Peleshtiy, [Heb] which means invader or enemy, written Philistine in the O.T., were enemies of the Jews.
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Palestine in 350 A.D. according to Eusbius and Jerome (map as reconstructed by George Adam Smith, 1915)


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Sorry I can't find the name Palestine anywhere on this reconstructed map.
 
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Wiki? Let's get serious here. The region from Turkey to Egypt was named Palestin[a] by the Romans, NOT the inhabitants of the region, as an insult to the Jews because the Peleshtiy, [Heb] which means invader or enemy, written Philistine in the O.T., were enemies of the Jews.

Philo (20-50 A.D) is an interesting source since he was a contemporary of Jesus and A Jew :

Speaking of The Essenes :

"Moreover Palestine and Syria too are not barren of exemplary wisdom and virtue, which countries no slight portion of that most populous nation of the Jews inhabits. There is a portion of those people called Essenes, in number something more than four thousand in my opinion, who derive their name from their piety...because they are above all men devoted to the service of God, not sacrificing living animals, but studying rather to preserve their own minds in a state of holiness and purity."

(Every Good Man Is Free XII.75)


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Herodotus, (484-425 B.C) speaking of circumcision, gives us an interesting text in Euterpe that includes Syria in Palestine,


"The Phoenicians and the Syrians of Palestine themselves confess that they learnt the custom of the Egyptians; and the Syrians...say that they have recently adopted it from the Colchians. Now these are the only nations who use circumcision, and it is plain that they all imitate herein the Egyptians."

(Euterpe II.104)


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Aristotle (384-322 B.C.) - he is describing what he has heard about what we call the Dead Sea,

"Again if, as is fabled, there is a lake in Palestine, such that if you bind a man or beast and throw it in it floats and does not sink, this would bear out what we have said. They say that this lake is so bitter and salt that no fish live in it and that if you soak clothes in it and shake them it cleans them."

(Meteorology II.3)


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Philo (20-50 A.D) is an interesting source since he was a contemporary of Jesus and A Jew :

Speaking of The Essenes :

"Moreover Palestine and Syria too are not barren of exemplary wisdom and virtue, which countries no slight portion of that most populous nation of the Jews inhabits. There is a portion of those people called Essenes, in number something more than four thousand in my opinion, who derive their name from their piety...because they are above all men devoted to the service of God, not sacrificing living animals, but studying rather to preserve their own minds in a state of holiness and purity."

(Every Good Man Is Free XII.75)


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Wiki again. Anybody can make changes at Wiki without review. Exactly what was the original word transliterated Palestine in the translation, above? As I said even the Hebrew P'leshtiy, invader or enemy, is transliterated "Philistine" in the O.T. YHWH the God of the O.T. named Israel and gave it to the legitimate descendants of Abraham.
Eze 11:17 Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel [593-571 BCE]
Not only the O.T. but the Qur'an which Muslims, including so-called Palestinians, only claim to believe and obey says that Israel belongs to the Jews.
Qur’an Surah 5:20 Remember when Moses said to his people: 'My people, remember Allah's favour upon you when He raised Prophets amongst you and appointed you rulers, and granted to you what He had not granted to anyone else in the world. 5:21 My people! Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you;43 and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers.

Qur’an Surah 10:93 - "And We [Allah] had certainty settled the Children of Israel in an agreeable settlement and provided them with good things"

Qur’an Surah 17:104 " And We [Allah] said after Pharaoh to the Children of Israel, to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when THE LAST WARNING will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'"
 
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Herodotus, (484-425 B.C) speaking of circumcision, gives us an interesting text in Euterpe that includes Syria in Palestine,


"The Phoenicians and the Syrians of Palestine themselves confess that they learnt the custom of the Egyptians; and the Syrians...say that they have recently adopted it from the Colchians. Now these are the only nations who use circumcision, and it is plain that they all imitate herein the Egyptians."

(Euterpe II.104)


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What was the word in the original language transliterated as "Palestine"? As I said in another post the Hebrew word P'leshtiy, invader/enemy, is transliterated Philistine in the English O.T. And OBTW the P'leshtiy were not Arab but ocean going Europeans who lived on the southern shore of the Mediterranean sea. The current day so called "Palestinians" were called Arab Muslims prior to 1967.
 
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