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Was the ephod a communication device to contact God ?

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1 Samuel 23:6
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And it came to pass, when Abiathar the son of Ahimelech fled to David to Keilah, that he came down with an ephod in his hand.

1 Samuel 23:9
9When David learned that Saul was plotting evil against him, he said to Abiathar the priest, “Bring the ephod.” 10And David said, “O LORD, God of Israel, Your servant has heard that Saul intends to come to Keilah and destroy the city on my account

If it was I want one :D

Also don't you think the word 'Ephod' is close to the word 'ipod' of today ?
 

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1 Samuel 23:6
King James Bible
And it came to pass, when Abiathar the son of Ahimelech fled to David to Keilah, that he came down with an ephod in his hand.

1 Samuel 23:9
9When David learned that Saul was plotting evil against him, he said to Abiathar the priest, “Bring the ephod.” 10And David said, “O LORD, God of Israel, Your servant has heard that Saul intends to come to Keilah and destroy the city on my account

If it was I want one :D

Also don't you think the word 'Ephod' is close to the word 'ipod' of today ?
The Urim and Thummim placed in the Ephod over the heart is purely symbolic. It's first mention in Exodus along with instructions never indicates that it was a form of direct communication. I do believe over time this vestment was used in ways to seek such type of communication, like in Sauls case.
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1 Samuel 23:6
King James Bible
And it came to pass, when Abiathar the son of Ahimelech fled to David to Keilah, that he came down with an ephod in his hand.

1 Samuel 23:9
9When David learned that Saul was plotting evil against him, he said to Abiathar the priest, “Bring the ephod.” 10And David said, “O LORD, God of Israel, Your servant has heard that Saul intends to come to Keilah and destroy the city on my account

If it was I want one :D

Also don't you think the word 'Ephod' is close to the word 'ipod' of today ?
Here is an excerpt from a draft I am helping on. Reference 2 is likely the best source listed. Hope this helps.

"To delve further into how lots gave guidance in the OT it is noted that casting lots is described 70 times in the OT, and seven times in the NT.1 In I Samuel 14:41, the lots were likely done through the two stones worn or attached to the ephod of the priest Ahiah. While some might wear a linen similar to the priests, the more elaborate ephods contained these two stones that “were mounted in gold and fastened on the ephod’s shoulder pieces.”2 One was likely oynx and the other a different color, termed Urim and Thummim.3 (Ex. 28:30). It was from these stones that the priest might throw or draw one to provide the will of God.4 It is possible lots at times may have included sticks, coins or even a type of dice.5 Other examples of the use of lots include identifying Jonah on the ship, and the division of the lands of Israel. In the NT, lots were thrown to select the new apostle. In other words, God sometimes speaks through the casting of lots. Merriam Webster suggests that this is called “cleromancy,” a type of divination.6 Divination however is forbidden in the OT (Duet 18:10). Some Jewish scholars see it as acceptable or outside the realm of divination that is forbidden.7 Still, it seems unlikely or prudent that God would answer using the practice of casting lots for a NT believer. It is possible that evil forces or chance could draw one away from the right decision that can only be made through the help of the Holy Spirit. Fortune telling, horoscopes and any form of communication that seeks to bypass the Holy Spirit is sinful. Both authors recommend that not even a fortune cookie be read, though there is no regulation against eating it. The reason why we should be so stringent is to make sure that we do not open the door to other voices that can confuse and quench the Holy Spirit. Thus, in general, while casting stones or other types of lots is in the bible, it is not recommended to do this today."


1 Got Questions, “What was the practice of casting lots?” What was the practice of casting lots? | GotQuestions.org.


2Jessica Brodie “What Was the Spiritual Purpose of the Ephod in the Bible? Christianity.com What Is an Ephod - Purpose and Meaning in the Bible


3 Tsumara, 378.


4 Ibid.


5 Got Questions, ibid.


6 Merriam-Webster.com Dictionary, s.v. “cleromancy,” accessed April 2, 2024, Definition of CLEROMANCY.


7 Yehuda Sherpin. Is Cleromancy (and Divination) Kosher? Chabad.org, https://www.chabad.org/library/arti...ewish/Is-Cleromancy-and-Divination-Kosher.htm
 
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Fortune telling, horoscopes and any form of communication that seeks to bypass the Holy Spirit is sinful. Both authors recommend that not even a fortune cookie be read, though there is no regulation against eating it. The reason why we should be so stringent is to make sure that we do not open the door to other voices that can confuse and quench the Holy Spirit. Thus, in general, while casting stones or other types of lots is in the bible, it is not recommended to do this today."

How could these priests be so sure they were receiving a message from God ?
 
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How could these priests be so sure they were receiving a message from God ?
I guess they just had faith that God would make it happen. It worked when finding who (Jonathan) had broken Saul's fast. I think it is better to hear directly from our personal guidance by the Holy Spirit. This too takes faith and fellowship in God. Sometimes too when listening for God, He can say some things one never even thought of before. To those who rarely or never hear from God, there are lots of scriptures that suggest you can. There are some good Christian books that help explain the process as well.
 
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How could these priests be so sure they were receiving a message from God ?
Perhaps it is like so much of communion with God, a feeling more than words, sights, and sounds.
 
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I guess they just had faith that God would make it happen. It worked when finding who (Jonathan) had broken Saul's fast. I think it is better to hear directly from our personal guidance by the Holy Spirit. This too takes faith and fellowship in God. Sometimes too when listening for God, He can say some things one never even thought of before. To those who rarely or never hear from God, there are lots of scriptures that suggest you can. There are some good Christian books that help explain the process as well.

I was just wondering ....................I did watch this not so long ago & it did help to explain how to communicate with God.

 
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1 Samuel 23:6
King James Bible
And it came to pass, when Abiathar the son of Ahimelech fled to David to Keilah, that he came down with an ephod in his hand.

1 Samuel 23:9
9When David learned that Saul was plotting evil against him, he said to Abiathar the priest, “Bring the ephod.” 10And David said, “O LORD, God of Israel, Your servant has heard that Saul intends to come to Keilah and destroy the city on my account

If it was I want one :D

Also don't you think the word 'Ephod' is close to the word 'ipod' of today ?
No that is a work of fiction
 
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Why would God need us to use a device in order to hear our prayers? That idea contradicts other texts. Rather the Ephod was a liturgical vestment, which like vestments worn by clergy today, expressed truths about God and His relationship to Israel.

The Urim and Thummin may have been a typological prophecy of the full humanity and divinity of Jesus Christ, or more likely still of the Eucharist of His Body and Blood, which was prefigured in the Temple sacrifices through the shewbread and libations (and also the animal sacrifices), but whereas the bloody sacrifices of the Old Testament could not remit sin, the bloodless and rational sacrifice of the Eucharist can, according to Christ our True God.
 
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I don't understand, why is it a work of fiction ?
Because it is not based on fact.

Everytime God spoke to a person in the Old Testament, He did so personally to the directly.

Everyone of the Prophets, every Priest heard Him directly. Adam heard him directly.

Your query sounds like something out of a tv show like ancient aliens.
 
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