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What does it mean.

I know we can trust God 100% God is faithfull and true,but in reality we are flawed,being abused or let down by others affects our trust.does low self esteem,lack of confidence affect us. what can help us trust more.

does fellowship whith brothers build us up,in trust.

healing from past hurts.help us open up more to God

can having a none existent or bad relationship whith our father affect our relationship whith God

Is it measured by our faith.

How can we trust God more.
 
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By spending time with Him; in prayer, in Bible Study, fasting, in worship.

Just like a normal earthly relationship, you grow to trust someone by spending time with them and getting to know them. :)

May I add the time in prayer bit is not just a time to say Lord I want this and that (though there are times for that) but rather a time to sit in His presence away from all distractions and just focus on Him silently waiting on Him to reveal Himself to you.

Time in Bible Study is not just a read a verse or two, pull out the lexicon, jot down some notes and go, but a meditation on the Word (Ps 1:1-2) and listening for the Spirit to bring life through the reveal Word, and perhaps even the spoken word as He can do.
 
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thanks for your input
but what about the action side of it,
I heard some say about a guy,God told him to go preach under a tree in the middle of a field, no one to be seen,so he preach the gospel. then suddenly this guy came down who was up the tree,he was about to hang himself. but heard the gospel instead.
like Abraham being told to sort out Isaac,at the alter. Genesis 22:1-8

trusting God to move forward in action.


 
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thanks for your input
but what about the action side of it,
I heard some say about a guy,God told him to go preach under a tree in the middle of a field, no one to be seen,so he preach the gospel. then suddenly this guy came down who was up the tree,he was about to hang himself. but heard the gospel instead.
like Abraham being told to sort out Isaac,at the alter. Genesis 22:1-8

trusting God to move forward in action.


The action side is where our faith really begins to grow! :)

The action side is where risk becomes involved.
The action side is where we are faced with making hard choices.
The action side is where we learn to die to self.
The action side is where we meet God in ways that otherwise would not be possible!

The action side! :)

We can talk up a storm about how much faith we have, but until our faith is tested we do not really know how deep is our faith. And yet, faith is what pleases God.

So, how do we grow in faith (trust)?

Simple answer: We trust and obey God.

And we keep on trusting ... no matter how hard the going gets, no matter how dark grows the situation ...

The more we trust God, the more we grow in our faith in Him.

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Maybe this read from Oswald Chambers will bless you! :)

The Trial of Faith

If you have faith as a mustard seed . . . nothing will be impossible for you —Matthew 17:20

We have the idea that God rewards us for our faith, and it may be so in the initial stages. But we do not earn anything through faith— faith brings us into the right relationship with God and gives Him His opportunity to work.

Yet God frequently has to knock the bottom out of your experience as His saint to get you in direct contact with Himself. God wants you to understand that it is a life of faith, not a life of emotional enjoyment of His blessings.

The beginning of your life of faith was very narrow and intense, centered around a small amount of experience that had as much emotion as faith in it, and it was full of light and sweetness. Then God withdrew His conscious blessings to teach you to “walk by faith” (2 Corinthians 5:7). And you are worth much more to Him now than you were in your days of conscious delight with your thrilling testimony.

Faith by its very nature must be tested and tried. And the real trial of faith is not that we find it difficult to trust God, but that God’s character must be proven as trustworthy in our own minds.

Faith being worked out into reality must experience times of unbroken isolation. Never confuse the trial of faith with the ordinary discipline of life, because a great deal of what we call the trial of faith is the inevitable result of being alive.

Faith, as the Bible teaches it, is faith in God coming against everything that contradicts Him— a faith that says, “I will remain true to God’s character whatever He may do.”

The highest and the greatest expression of faith in the whole Bible is— “Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him” (Job 13:15).
 
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Why must it always be about serving or even serving at all? I understand the importance of good works and am not discounting them but when Martha asked Jesus to tell Mary to stop sitting and help her serve Him he told her to leave Mary alone because she was doing the better thing, which was just sitting in His presence. David was a man after God's own heart, no one else can claim that in scripture, and what was David's goal in life? What was his number one request of God? Psalm 27:4, "One thing I have asked of the LORD, that I will seek after, to dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to gaze upon the beauty of the LORD, and to meditate in His Temple." David knew the importance of and desired nothing more than to be in God's presence. We all could learn a thing from that. Sometimes God doesn't want us to serve Him, but instead to relax and rest in His presence. That's where trust in Him really grows and we learn to love Him by knowing Him.
 
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Why must it always be about serving or even serving at all? I understand the importance of good works and am not discounting them but when Martha asked Jesus to tell Mary to stop sitting and help her serve Him he told her to leave Mary alone because she was doing the better thing, which was just sitting in His presence. David was a man after God's own heart, no one else can claim that in scripture, and what was David's goal in life? What was his number one request of God? Psalm 27:4, "One thing I have asked of the LORD, that I will seek after, to dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to gaze upon the beauty of the LORD, and to meditate in His Temple." David knew the importance of and desired nothing more than to be in God's presence. We all could learn a thing from that. Sometimes God doesn't want us to serve Him, but instead to relax and rest in His presence. That's where trust in Him really grows and we learn to love Him by knowing Him.


both are important, David loved spending time with God in His Presence but David also went out and fought wars in God's Name. both are trusting God.

there are seasons in our lives for both thankfully.
 
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both are important, David loved spending time with God in His Presence but David also went out and fought wars in God's Name. both are trusting God.

there are seasons in our lives for both thankfully.

I agree both are important, but it seems most are caught up in the serve serve serve part that they forget they forget the rest, wait, and be still part.
 
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What does it mean.

I know we can trust God 100% God is faithfull and true,but in reality we are flawed,being abused or let down by others affects our trust.does low self esteem,lack of confidence affect us. what can help us trust more.

does fellowship whith brothers build us up,in trust.

healing from past hurts.help us open up more to God

can having a none existent or bad relationship whith our father affect our relationship whith God

Is it measured by our faith.

How can we trust God more.

Trusting God can be keeping on going to a job that is jolly hard work because God put you there.

Trusting God can be committing heartbreak and difficulty into His hands and keeping going and keeping on praising Him anyway even though nothing changes.

Trusting God can be choosing to believe and know with every fibre of your being that God loves you unconditionally and will never leave you or forsake you, even when people say or do things against you that could easily make you lose that truth about God. But trusting God means believing what God says over and above what anyone else tries to make you believe (even Christians).

Trusting God can be loving someone in your life who is very difficult to love. You keep cleaning their house, giving them food, trying your best to be unshakable in your love for them because God loves you in that way. even when they hit back at you out of pain. But you know that love overcomes evil because God says so, so therefore trusting God means you keeping on loving that person,

Trusting God always has some kind of action associated with it because then it is real faith.
 
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thanks for your input
but what about the action side of it,
I heard some say about a guy,God told him to go preach under a tree in the middle of a field, no one to be seen,so he preach the gospel. then suddenly this guy came down who was up the tree,he was about to hang himself. but heard the gospel instead.
like Abraham being told to sort out Isaac,at the alter. Genesis 22:1-8

trusting God to move forward in action.


182 Trust and Obey Big Daddy Weave - YouTube


Do what you believe He is telling you to do, brother ...
and you will grow in faith!

God bless you!
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I lost the 'quote OP' or whatever, so going by memory, and also reflecting what I pray about, is revealed to me through experience, reflection:

Trusting God means praying with humility to have whatever keeps me from trusting Him more fully, and obeying His will more regularly, removed, i.e. I ask His help in however I need it--leaving it to God to show me what I need, instead of coming to him with some kind of definite personal idea of what I need; I mean, I'm finite, He is Infinite, so the 'directional movement' needs, for me, to always be from me (humbly) to Him, and then from Him, all-lovingly, to me.

Yes, our relationship with our biological fathers, or other main care-giver, definitely has an impact on how we trust, who we trust, to what degree--and extends to how we perceive God.

I've noticed extremes with those of us who have been extremely abused. For instance, the extremely abused often see God as very wrathful or very permissve, like we internalize our bio-father's rage and then interpret God that way, or we can't bear any more wrath, not even the idea, so we have a fantasy of God like this really lenient parent who never ever corrects us--but does come down hard on others.

I pray, daily, regularly, humbly, to God for His guidance to help me be a better Christian wife, a more active member of Christ's Body, to feel when I'm skirting a dangerous line with one of my 'natural' stumbling blocks, like 'pride' in my intellect: that one can get me if I'm not really listening as I pray to God for that kind of 'ear to hear...'

God is Perfect Love but we have a finite sense of being loved or loving others, so God is patient if we're struggling to understand, and failing because of how we were raised...

YOu know what I found out recently?

It can be just as much, if not more, or maybe just differently, a stumbling block to obeying God and seeking His Guidance if we had a really 'right there', always showing us the way, never angry kind of father.

I have someone in my life... Well, someone I've known for over 30 years, and recently we reconnected, and it turns out that his daughter who is in her early 20s idolizes him, doesn't seem to be able to think any though or live in any way that goes against what her 'Christian, hands-on, heavily involved, never overtly angry father ever taught her', so he's patriotic to the extreme--sort of like God is 'under' The United States, and so is she; and she puts out hateful quotes about murdering women (those who have abortions and don't care at all--as though she could know these women's, ALL women's thoughts and feelings and prayers, et cetera, about this or anything else without their telling her, which they don't because she talks only to 'her own kind'),

and well it goes on and on, so she's like some cookie-cutter-conservative-Christian wife/daughter/woman.

It's disturbing.

I grew up without a hands on father, except for when he hit me, which stopped when I was really young because I could not stand to be hit, and I gave in FAST, and suffered from internalized anger...

And my father was not a 'strong role model' so I had to work out stuff alone or with what I read, and of course prayed, and I hurt a lot for lack of my father's love, my earthly father's love, BUT, you know what?

That left me a yearning for Fatherly Love, an openness to God as Perfect Father Love rather than exalting my earthly father either to the same level, or as this young woman has done--above God as Father.

It has given me something to reflect on, and feel blessed by, and thankful to God that He has patiently waited for me to see the blessing in what felt for so long like... well, not a 'curse', but a horrible missing out, and in its place, such hurt.

Along with that, because of God revealing the blessing? I have now seen other ugly things in my childhood differently, like how my Mom put my babiest sister's crib in my room, when I was 15?

I used to always feel and focus on that, how unfair, how I didn't have much of a childhood, how she abdicated maternal responsibility and put it on me (much sooner than 15), and now:

I feel so blessed!

That wasn't MY room that my biological mother put my sister's crib in: It was 'our' room; we are God's, both of us--and He gives and takes away...

So my babiest sister got a surrogate sister-Mom and I got a surrogate sister-daughter, and each of us were loved (by God) and loved in return (because of God).

I better stop here; I get excited at the growth, as I recognize more and more how my vision is clearing, and that clearing could only happen as I 'continued' to daily, throughout the day, prayerfully to ask God for what I needed to obey, to be a good Christian wife, sister, neighbor, member of His Body...

I trust God to always BE Love, and to remind me--as I have asked, when I forget--that nothing I have gone through or am going through or will go through could ever be for anything but Ultimate Good--even if I don't see that until I leave this mortal body behind, because I am God's girl, and God IS Love.

~ Carolyn
 
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