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Trumps "dirty little Plan B secret" to overturn the election if he loses

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Even if Kamala wins, Trump as a plan to put forth at contingent election, leaving it up to the House of Representatives to make a vote on making Trump president, instead of the people.

This is taken from Amendment 12 of the Constitution:

“The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote[.]”


 

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Quote from the link:

In an appearance on CNN early Monday morning, Goldman, a Democrat representing New York's 10th Congressional District, said he suspects Trump's secret could involve a "backup plan for when he loses" in November. He pointed to the former president's efforts to undermine Congress' certification of the 2020 presidential election four years ago.​
"Now you wonder—why did Donald Trump come to New York nine days before the election?" Goldman said during his appearance on CNN This Morning. He said that the state of New York, a Democratic stronghold, is likely going to Harris.​
oooh.... he SUSPECTS, (no proof of) Trump's secret COULD involve.

Ah the things conspiracy theories are made of.

This is a definite could be of an if so maybe of a possibility.

And low information and/or education voters will defend it and make it into another fear mongering event. Get's your pearls out - they are about to be clutched.
 
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I can't believe the democrat who would have never voted for Harris. In a democratic primary run off, will now hold their nose and get behind and vote for this person.

If i was a democratic voter, i would never vote for her and the way she assumed power.
 
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Even if Kamala wins, Trump as a plan to put forth at contingent election, leaving it up to the House of Representatives to make a vote on making Trump president, instead of the people.

This is taken from Amendment 12 of the Constitution:

“The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote[.]”


This was actually the Evan McMullen plan in 2016. He needed to win ONE state AND ALSO Trump and Clinton needed to both miss out on getting 270 electoral votes. It could have worked, except that in 2016 McMullen won ZERO states and Trump got MORE THAN 270 electoral votes. It was for McMullen a long shot strategy but a fully legal and constitutional strategy. It just didn't work for him.
 
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Even if Kamala wins, Trump as a plan to put forth at contingent election, leaving it up to the House of Representatives to make a vote on making Trump president, instead of the people.

This is taken from Amendment 12 of the Constitution:

“The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote[.]”
Well, technically, this is not a "dirty little secret." It is not a secret at all. It is the 12th Amendment to the Constitution. It is available and applicable to either party, any candidate, and any time the need arises. But the conditions have to be met.
It is like saying Trump's dirty little secret to get elected is to have the most electoral college votes! Gasp! Those dang voters. Kamala would have won except for the voters voted for Trump!!!!
 
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Well, technically, this is not a "dirty little secret." It is not a secret at all. It is the 12th Amendment to the Constitution. It is available and applicable to either party, any candidate, and any time the need arises. But the conditions have to be met.
It is like saying Trump's dirty little secret to get elected is to have the most electoral college votes! Gasp! Those dang voters. Kamala would have won except for the voters voted for Trump!!!!
I am sure all of the hot shot lawyers are gaming this out if nobody gets the 270 needed electoral votes. It DOES work out better for Trump as he will probably win a plurality of states.

It's NOT a dirty little secret. It's the constitution. To win without it being thrown to the House you have to have an actual majority of electoral votes. If nobody has that majority the House decides, based on the states each providing one vote.

The McMullen strategy was to finish in the top three electoral vote getters. It's actually not a bad strategy for a third party candidate who can get a few electoral votes (a BIG hurdle) and prevent the other candidates from getting to 270. Then hope that the Left blocks the Right and the Right blocks the Left so you look like an acceptable compromise candidate. In this election I don't see, short of a miracle, that anyone but Harris or Trump will get an electoral vote. McMullen had a ghost of a chance winning Utah as he was a Mormon, but nope. I wish we would have a groundswell for another candidate, but it ain't happening. So many people LOVE Harris and LOVE Trump. Or, um, whatever.
 
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Hopefully he will begin his sentence at Sing-Sing before he gets the opportunity.
I hope he governs the next 4 years from the prison. He will.have the most luxurious cell ever. The best cell, the greatest cell. Well see a cell.like we've never seen before.
 
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A Democrats dream turns into a nightmare:

Trump goes to prison.
Trump resigns, and the office goes to Vance.
Vance pardons Trump.
Vance names Trump VP.
Vance resigns.
Trump becomes President.
Trump names Vance his VP.
Trump fires everyone in the DOJ.
Trump hires ultra-right people to DOJ.
Ulta right DOJ prosecutes all Trump's persecutors.
Hundreds of extreme leftists go to prison.
(Trump does not pardon them.)
Trump drains the swamp.
Trump proceeds to MAGA.
 
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A Democrats dream turns into a nightmare:

Trump goes to prison.
Trump resigns, and the office goes to Vance.
Vance pardons Trump.
Vance names Trump VP.
Vance resigns.
Trump becomes President.
Trump names Vance his VP.
Trump fires everyone in the DOJ
Trump hires ultra-right people to DOJ.
Ulta right DOJ prosecutes all Trump's persecutors.
Hundreds of extreme leftists go to prison.
Ok.

So don't even try to hide the fascism in a post like this.

To each their own I guess. Personally I would be embarrassed to live in a banana republic where leaders behave that way but, of course, even in banana republics, those terrible leaders have people who follow them too.
 
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Ok.

So don't even try to hide the fascism in a post like this.

To each their own I guess. Personally I would be embarrassed to live in a banana republic where leaders behave that way but, of course, even in banana republics, those terrible leaders have people who follow them too.
You will surely be on that list, Ramsey. The next time we meet with Putin down at Hardee's, I will make sure Trump puts you on that list. Then we can rip our shirts off, jump on our horses, and ride into the sunset. We will meet Dolfy later down Ar-jan-teen way! Then we'll hop aboard Elon's Luftwaffe Starship and spend the weekend on that secret nazi base on the far side of the moon. Ah, yes..... reality. Life is good in a fascist universe!
Shhhh!!!!! It's all a secret! :sigh:
 
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You will surely be on that list, Ramsey. The next time we meet with Putin down at Hardee's, I will make sure Trump puts you on that list. Then we can rip our shirts off, jump on our horses, and ride into the sunset. We will meet Dolfy later down Ar-jan-teen way! Then we'll hop aboard Elon's Luftwaffe Starship and spend the weekend on that secret nazi base on the far side of the moon. Ah, yes..... reality. Life is good in a fascist universe!
Shhhh!!!!! It's all a secret! :sigh:
You don't understand why I responded to your post that way and you do not see the connection I'm guessing right?
 
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You don't understand why I responded to your post that way and you do not see the connection I'm guessing right?
I don't know, Ram... but the entire thing is silly. It needs to be treated with sarcasm or even mocking.
 
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Hopefully he will begin his sentence at Sing-Sing before he gets the opportunity.
 
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Vance pardons Trump.
Vance cannot pardon Trump for his state felony convictions. But, there is nothing in the Constitution against a convicted felon serving as president, oddly enough.
 
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