the wise men came to worship him, Jesus. not her, Mary

[Cockcrow]

Matthew 2:2 "Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him." They came to worship the Lord Jesus Christ. not mary. Now there are those that are Roman Catholic, who commit mariolatry: the worship of Mary. but who does the bible emphasize? Jesus, Acts 10:43 "To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.” 1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” We need to emphasize what the bible emphasizes and people must get off the mary worship stuff because that is not biblical and she is not a mother of god. the Lord Jesus Christ is the name above all names. It was his star in the East, the wise men came to worship one man, Jesus, not his earthly mother Mary.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Matthew 2:2 "Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him." They came to worship the Lord Jesus Christ. not mary. Now there are those that are Roman Catholic, who commit mariolatry: the worship of Mary. but who does the bible emphasize? Jesus, Acts 10:43 "To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.” 1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” We need to emphasize what the bible emphasizes and people must get off the mary worship stuff because that is not biblical and she is not a mother of god. the Lord Jesus Christ is the name above all names. It was his star in the East, the wise men came to worship one man, Jesus, not his earthly mother Mary.

Of course. The Orthodox and the Catholics don't worship Mary. There was one group, way back, which did worship Mary as a goddess, but they are thankfully quite extinct. Collyridianism

 

[Cockcrow]

Of course. The Orthodox and the Catholics don't worship Mary. There was one group, way back, which did worship Mary as a goddess, but they are thankfully quite extinct. Collyridianism

to call Mary co redeemer, co mediator as the Roman Catholic Church does is blasphemous, idolatry, and wicked. Jesus alone is the only way. John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

 

[chevyontheriver]

to call Mary co redeemer, co mediator as the Roman Catholic Church does is blasphemous, idolatry, and wicked. Jesus alone is the only way. John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

You are switching subjects. You were talking about worshiping Mary. I informed you that was only done by an extinct non-Catholic sect called the Collyridians. Now you are on to titles for Mary that you do not seem to understand. But I get it you have to attack what you don't know. I'll leave you to it.

 

[timothyu]

Nobody cares they never came at the birth as is tradition, but later?

 

[Jipsah]

They came to worship the Lord Jesus Christ. not mary.

They didn't eevn capitalize her name, did they? <Laugh>

Now there are those that are Roman Catholic, who commit mariolatry: the worship of Mary.

Of course, that's a basic tenet of Protestantism, isn't it.

but who does the bible emphasize? Jesus

Really? Well who'd a thunk it?

. It was his star in the East, the wise men came to worship one man, Jesus, not his earthly mother Mary.

Well thanks for sharing that, otherwise I'd have never known.

 

[Jipsah]

Of course. The Orthodox and the Catholics don't worship Mary. There was one group, way back, which did worship Mary as a goddess, but they are thankfully quite extinct. Collyridianism

Ah, we say we don't worship the BVM, but we really do. Just ask 'em, they'll tell you.

 

[Jipsah]

to call Mary co redeemer, co mediator as the Roman Catholic Church does is blasphemous, idolatry, and wicked.

Does the RCC really say that?

Here's what that ChatGPT (not noted as being a wildly pro-Catholic source) says on the subject:

the Catholic Church has not officially adopted "Co-Redemptrix" as a formal title for Mary. Recent popes have expressed reservations about its use. Pope Francis, for instance, stated in 2019 that referring to Mary as "Co-Redemptrix" is inappropriate, emphasizing that Jesus is the sole Redeemer. Angelus News

While the Church acknowledges Mary's exceptional role in salvation history, it maintains that Jesus Christ alone accomplished human redemption. Therefore, although some Catholics may use the term "Co-Redemptrix" devotionally, it is not an official or universally accepted title within the Catholic Church.

Can I help you with anything else?

 

[Jipsah]

Nobody cares they never came at the birth as is tradition, but later?

Not really.

 

[timothyu]

Not really.

No wonder theology became based on tradition

 

[Valletta]

No wonder theology became based on tradition

It appears you are confusing mere tradition with Sacred Tradition. Sacred Tradition was passed down from Jesus through the Apostles. Most of the Apostles wrote nothing down for us. There was a time for Catholics before one word of the New Testament was written. Anyone can have mere traditions. Catholic theology is based upon the entire Word of God, not only the Bible.

 

[timothyu]

It appears you are confusing mere tradition with Sacred Tradition.

Either way its not about tradition

 

[Jipsah]

Either way its not about tradition

How about the Canon of Scripture?

 

[timothyu]

How about the Canon of Scripture?

Its not a concept that became tradition although it may have been assembled around one.

 

[Valletta]

Its not a concept that became tradition although it may have been assembled around one.

A Protestant tradition is their canon of the Bible. They took the canon established by the Catholic Church in the late 300s, kept the same order of books, but removed seven books and have used it for centuries per their tradition. That canon is not contained within the
God-breathed text of the Bible.

 

[Jipsah]

Its not a concept that became tradition although it may have been assembled around one.

The tradition of what writings constituted the Word of God came first, and was codified later.

 

[timothyu]

The tradition of what writings constituted the Word of God came first, and was codified later.

Perhaps, but the movement was well under way beforehand and should always remain the prime focus. What men created later was merely controlling the narrative,

 

[Jipsah]

Perhaps, but the movement was well under way beforehand and should always remain the prime focus. What men created later was merely controlling the narrative,

The Canon of Scripture is still a matter of holy tradition, like it or lump it.

 

[Jipsah]

A Protestant tradition is their canon of the Bible.

Which is simply a subset of the entire canon.

They took the canon established by the Catholic Church in the late 300s, kept the same order of books, but removed seven books and have used it for centuries per their tradition. That canon is not contained within the
God-breathed text of the Bible.

Agreed.

 

[Jipsah]

Either way its not about tradition

It's certainly not part of Scripture itself.