The science of Eucharistic miracles

[Michie]

The Catholic Church has consistently held that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Jesus Christ under the appearance of bread and wine. However, over half of Catholics do not accept this teaching. In order to dispel doubts, God has provided many instances throughout church history where the consecrated bread and/or wine have become human flesh and blood. These events are called Eucharistic miracles and more than 150 such cases have been approved by the Vatican. Five of these cases have been scientifically investigated and the results are astounding.

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The science of Eucharistic miracles - Arlington Catholic Herald

 

[Mountainmike]

I urge all to read either "serafini" a cardiologist examines Jesus - or Tesoriero "unseen" or "my human heart"

It is incredible how little catholics know of these.

The pathology is a slamdunk. They were all different teams on different continents so no collusion and by the nature of the DNA and intimate intermingling of bread with flesh at the perriphery they cannot have been faked.
The DNA and MtDna issues are fascinating.

These are pathologists speaking whsoe day job is criminology who are trusted by courts as expert witness

A pathologist has said "convincing evidence of the CREATION (my highlight) of heart tissue"
The fact of white cells shows they were LIVE at the point of sampling.

The implications are far reaching.
This alone revokes darwins theorem by the criterion Darwin himself set.
"if any complex organ is found to have been produced by OTHER than progressive small change it will absolutely disprove my theorem"

What more can Jesus do to prove to a sceptic world that he is truth, his statements were true, and catholicsim is the true expression of christiantity than show His LIVE heart in the eucharist?

Yet the world ignores them.

 

[Homeowner]

What more can Jesus do to prove to a sceptic world that he is truth, his statements were true, and catholicsim is the true expression of christiantity than show His LIVE heart in the eucharist?

If Jesus really wanted to prove sceptical world that catholicism is the true expression of christianity and show His live heart in eucharist all it would take is to have it happen every time someone dropped eucharist in to a liquid.

That is all it would take. It would indeed change everything.

Apparently since Jesus chooses not to exert His will in this way He thinks the kind of confirmation you are advocating for is unnecessary.

 

[Homeowner]

Please do not argue Eucharistic miracles in OBOB or how you think the Lord should work when it comes to the miracles He chooses to reveal.

Not arguing. Not saying what Lord should do. Just answering what Mountainmike asked.

Do you find anything illogical or untrue about my answer ? If so what ?

 

[Michie]

Not arguing. Not saying what Lord should do. Just answering what Mountainmike asked.

Do you find anything illogical or untrue about my answer ? If so what ?

I misread. Please accept my apologies. I’m
Multitasking while waiting in lines.

 

[Homeowner]

 

[whatisinausername]

Not to be a debbie downer, but I don't understand how they determined from the samples they were from the heart. Our cells have the same DNA, but they are wrapped up like knots in a rope for gene expression.

 

[Joined2krist]

My Lord and my God

 

[WarriorAngel]

The Lord knows who are swine He does not throw His pearls before.
Yet He seeks believers to pray for them. Otherwise; His graces He pours on them remain lost like water falling off a ducks back.
True, He does not force His will. That said; it's impossible for HIM not to pour out love on all His creatures. Now them wanting it... sometimes means believers must pray, believe and often time offer up something [fasting on bread] etc

 

[Mountainmike]

Not arguing. Not saying what Lord should do. Just answering what Mountainmike asked.

Do you find anything illogical or untrue about my answer ? If so what ?

Sorry I have been abroad.

You say "He thinks the kind of confirmation you are advocating for is unnecessary."

You claim to know the mind of God - what "he thinks" . I do not.
I do not advocate anything. I simply observe what our Lord chooses to do.

The eucharistic miracles do indeed confirm a catholic view of transubstantation which also verifies creation.

A single verified instance is enough to challenge the materialist view
To do so on multiple contintents with multiple teams eliminates a single bad actor in a fraud.

The supernatural and miracles must be taken on their own terms. You cannot impose what "should happen" and certainly not what our Lord "thinks" unless He chooses to say so!

It also validates the statements at Fatima.
"I offer Thee the most precious Body, Blood, Soul
and Divinity of Jesus Christ,
present in all the tabernacles of the world, in reparation for the outrages, sacrileges and indifferences whereby He is offended"

One common factor in several of the cases is dropping or discarding the host. A sacrilege and outrage.

 

[Homeowner]

You claim to know the mind of God - what "he thinks" . I do not.
I do not advocate anything. I simply observe what our Lord chooses to do.

As do I.

I observe He feels it unnecessary to have so many eucharist miracles that it would actually convince sceptics. If every throwaway eucharist became flesh and blood it would be undeniable act of God. If He felt they were necessary this would happen.

Clearly this is not the case.

Right ?

 

[Mountainmike]

As do I.

I observe He feels it unnecessary to have so many eucharist miracles that it would actually convince sceptics. If every throwaway eucharist became flesh and blood it would be undeniable act of God. If He felt they were necessary this would happen.

Clearly this is not the case.

Right ?

The problem with our materialist world is NOTHING will convince sceptic materialists! They believe in scientism not science.

Sadly they are feeding our children with their false philosophy.

Nature is best defined as "what normally happens".
If bread became flesh every time , it would be deemed "natural" ( by as yet undefined process, but "natural" none the less)
so still no need for God.

Since it happens only rarely it is deemed an error of observation, incompetent scientists or wilful fraud.
He cannot win.

 

[Homeowner]

He cannot win.

You think He could not arrange a demonstrations or miracles that would actually convince sceptics ?

 

[WarriorAngel]

As do I.

I observe He feels it unnecessary to have so many eucharist miracles that it would actually convince sceptics. If every throwaway eucharist became flesh and blood it would be undeniable act of God. If He felt they were necessary this would happen.

Clearly this is not the case.

Right ?

Say what? They are not thrown away - EVER!

Even a trace of the Holy Blood in the chalice must be washed in a special sink that goes directly into the earth and not any sewage.

 

[WarriorAngel]

You think He could not arrange a demonstrations or miracles that would actually convince sceptics ?

Indeed He has, indeed He has.... Fatima - soaking wet rain storm... 70,000 gathered for a miracle and down came the sun [and caused atheists to convert] and dried out the earth.

 

[Homeowner]

Say what? They are not thrown away - EVER!

Meaning those eucharists that are dropped or something and put to jar to dissolve. Not actually thrown away.