The Parables, the stories, the examples given to us as examples in the Bible...?

[Neogaia777]

The Parables, the stories, the examples given to us as examples in the Bible...?

They are "samples" also...

We see them as almost always being about specific persons or individuals, or specific persons, places or things, etc, but, we all too often do not also realize, or realize also, that they are also very much about all of us "collectively" as well, or are all there (the stories, examples, stories, samples, problems, and parables, etc) to "reveal truths about us all" each all "collectively", or as a collective as well, and not just only as just individuals, etc, or as groups, or people groups, or as societies, nations, and people groups, etc...

A story that seems to be about a farmer and seed, or a tale of two brothers, etc, are often very much about "something else" entirely... About philosophies, ideas, schools of thought, concepts and ideas, etc, that define us as people groups, or a people group, and/or "collectively", etc...

Can any of you guys see how any of examples or samples or stories or parables in the Bible or Word of God are this way or could be this way maybe...?

If so, I invite you guys to share and discuss please, if you want to please, etc, OK...?

Oh and also, then beyond that, much of them could be very much "the same story or sample or example" this way, just told a different way, etc, as well, etc...

And if you guys have any ideas or thoughts on that, I invite you all to please share and or discuss it/them as well, etc, K...?

Much Thanks,

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

This is just a side note, about "seeds", and why the Bible talks about them so much...?

Someone talked about water being turned into wine, and mentioned about how what was more amazing is how water or dew is turned into grapes, and it starts with "seed" or seeds, (and with "soil") (and/or "ground") etc...

Anyway, I said, it all starts with a "seed" or with "seeds", and is why I think the Bible talks about them so very much, and I think it goes way beyond the just the physical seeds we know... People are, or can bee "seeds"... Jesus Himself was described as a "seed"... All life, the creation of the universe, creation itself, it all begins with a seed or seeds...

Anything that is "birthed", or is born, and/or grows, and/or changes, or evolves, or changes and/or grows and develops, etc, all starts with seed or seeds...

No wonder the Bible and Jesus Christ Himself talks about them so very much, huh...?

Anyway, just a side note and food for thought, comment if you like, K...?

God Bless!

 

[timothyu]

Oh and also, then beyond that, much of them could be very much "the same story or sample or example" this way, just told a different way, etc, as well, etc...

Jesus' gospel/good news was the Gospel of the Kingdom. All parables relate to the Kingdom and how the ways of man are opposite to the ways of the Kingdom. So yes, different parables but all relating to the Kingdom.

Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

 

[Neogaia777]

Jesus' gospel/good news was the Gospel of the Kingdom. All parables relate to the Kingdom and how the ways of man are opposite to the ways of the Kingdom. So yes, different parables but all relating to the Kingdom.

Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

I think they were telling truths about "everything", not just only the Kingdom of God, or the Kingdom of God only, but about this world and many, many "other things" as well...? Of course, some of it was about the Kingdom of God, but maybe not absolutely all of it or all of them, etc... Some of them were about this world, or this fallen world too...

Take the "two sides" that always inevitably evolve or inevitably come up or grow and/or develop in cultures and/or people groups, yes, even in this world, or with man in this world even right now even, etc...? Well, how about a tale of two brothers...? or the two opposing sides or two angels on top of the ark of the Covenant, etc...? There seems to "two sides" to a lot of things, and I think a lot in the Bible is trying to tell us some things about that maybe, as well, maybe, etc...

Anyway, hoping some others with comment and provide their thoughts also, but thanks for your input.

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Jesus' gospel/good news was the Gospel of the Kingdom. All parables relate to the Kingdom and how the ways of man are opposite to the ways of the Kingdom. So yes, different parables but all relating to the Kingdom.

Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

It could be talking about just the Kingdom of God only, only if this world also was part of the Kingdom of God right now currently, and the way it is right now currently, but I don't know that I believe it is right now, etc...?

It/they seem to be telling us truths, or are trying to reveal to us much truths, about a great deal of a lot of things, maybe even "everything" basically...?

And that would include this world or this world of man right now also, etc...

But, thanks for your input though.

God Bless!

 

[timothyu]

Of course, some of it was about the Kingdom of God, but maybe not absolutely all of it or all of them, etc... Some of them were about this world, or this fallen world too...

Yes, they tell of the two sides and how they are opposite in nature. Past, present or future the world of man has the same MO in the way we behave.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

The reason why Jesus put much of His teaching into parables for the ordinary people, was that He was speaking to unconverted Jews who did not have the spiritual discernment to be able to accept straight teaching of God's standards. But He told His disciples the meaning of the parables because they were closer to Him and were His apprentices and therefore His teaching was more direct to them.

It goes along with the Scripture which says that the unconverted cannot understand the things of God because they are spiritual discerned. Only those who have the Holy Spirit are able to understand what Jesus and Paul were actually teaching.

But Jesus knew that although unconverted and without the Holy Spirit, they were able to understand things in a limited way. So He spoke to them in parables and used examples that they would understand. But whether they got the point of the stories is open to question if Jesus didn't explain the meaning of the parable.

It is this lack of spiritual discernment in unconverted people, including atheists and agnostics, that causes them to be unable to accept the straight gospel, the truth of the Bible, and the need to have faith in Christ. So, trying to give them straight teaching from the Scriptures hardly ever works, and the discussions then go around and around and end up in a frustrating stalemate. This is because only the Holy Spirit can enable a person to have the spiritual discernment to be able to understand and receive the things of God.

So, perhaps a good strategy would be to use "parables" to try and get them to have some sort of understanding about what we are talking about when we are working to get them to believe the gospel and receive Christ.

 

[Neogaia777]

The reason why Jesus put much of His teaching into parables for the ordinary people, was that He was speaking to unconverted Jews who did not have the spiritual discernment to be able to accept straight teaching of God's standards. But He told His disciples the meaning of the parables because they were closer to Him and were His apprentices and therefore His teaching was more direct to them.

It goes along with the Scripture which says that the unconverted cannot understand the things of God because they are spiritual discerned. Only those who have the Holy Spirit are able to understand what Jesus and Paul were actually teaching.

But Jesus knew that although unconverted and without the Holy Spirit, they were able to understand things in a limited way. So He spoke to them in parables and used examples that they would understand. But whether they got the point of the stories is open to question if Jesus didn't explain the meaning of the parable.

It is this lack of spiritual discernment in unconverted people, including atheists and agnostics, that causes them to be unable to accept the straight gospel, the truth of the Bible, and the need to have faith in Christ. So, trying to give them straight teaching from the Scriptures hardly ever works, and the discussions then go around and around and end up in a frustrating stalemate. This is because only the Holy Spirit can enable a person to have the spiritual discernment to be able to understand and receive the things of God.

So, perhaps a good strategy would be to use "parables" to try and get them to have some sort of understanding about what we are talking about when we are working to get them to believe the gospel and receive Christ.

It would have been really cool/awesome to have "been there" and walked with Jesus personally and for Him to take you off privately and explain the all the spiritual meanings and discernment's/interpretations of all of them to you wouldn't it...?

I think that must have been pretty awesome, unfortunately we don't have a lot of them actually in scripture though, but we can most definitely tell Jesus had done some of this with some or many of them though (His apostles/disciples)...

But they are about something much bigger and larger much of the time, than just what they only seem to be on the surface though right? Or don't you think maybe...?

God Bless!

 

[SkyWriting]

It could be talking about just the Kingdom of God only, only if this world also was part of the Kingdom of God right now currently, and the way it is right now currently, but I don't know that I believe it is right now, etc...?

It/they seem to be telling us truths, or are trying to reveal to us much truths, about a great deal of a lot of things, maybe even "everything" basically...?

And that would include this world or this world of man right now also, etc...

But, thanks for your input though.

God Bless!

Yes. They seem to be actual events Jesus knew about, and He often elaborated about how the lessons could be applied generally.

Matthew 13
35 This was to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet: “I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter what has been hidden since the foundation of the world.”

1 Timothy 5
8 But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

Matthew 25
“Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them, but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps. As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept. ...

Luke 14
15 When one of those who reclined at table with him heard these things, he said to him, “Blessed is everyone who will eat bread in the kingdom of God!” But he said to him, “A man once gave a great banquet and invited many. And at the time for the banquet he sent his servant to say to those who had been invited, ‘Come, for everything is now ready.’ But they all alike began to make excuses. The first said to him, ‘I have bought a field, and I must go out and see it. Please have me excused.’ And another said, ‘I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to examine them. Please have me excused.’ ...