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The meaning of 666 and its identity

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Revelation 13:16-18
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

In the book Book of Revelation Chapter 13:16–18, the Textus Receptus manuscripts of the New Testament, cryptically asserts 666 to be 'the number of a man' associated with the Beast of revelation.. Some manuscripts of the original Koine Greek use the symbols χξϛ chi xi stigma (or χξϝ with a digamma), while other manuscripts spell out the number in words. But there are a few that try to misdirect or say it is another number or put in the margin that some 'authorities' that 'read Six hundred and sixteen.' or 'one early ms has the letters for 616'

But it is clear that it is 666 and today this has become one of the most widely recognized symbols for the Antichrist. Now the number 666 in and of itself doesn’t mean anything bad. Sometimes something might cost 666 dollars, or someone’s address or phone number might contain the numbers '666' and many other examples. But in the Bible this number does have significance, in the final verse of Revelation 13 we find an identifying clue for the Beast: 'Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred sixty and six.'

So the Bible tells us that this number '666', is the number of a man, symbolized by the first beast of Revelation 13. Notice that “666” is not the “mark of the beast,” but is an identifier, something that helps us to identify who or what that beast is. This Beast is identified elsewhere as Babylon, which brought false worship and confused the people with it. You have to understand that false worship had spread from that to the true God, to the created objects such as the Sun, Moon and Stars. The ancient Babylonian false worship was basically development of star worship of what were created objects they saw. The heavenly bodies were seen as gods and worshipped as a supernatural beings. We find the sun, moon were identified with Shamash, Sin, and the planet Venus with Ishtar, Jupiter was Marduk, Saturn was the war god, Mercury was Nebo, Mars was Nergal, god of the dead as we find in history.

This system of identification was taken over and modified by the Greeks and Romans, using the names of their own deities. But when the Greek sailors and soldiers went to the temples they had to know or identify the "gods" or religious system they were worshiping, so the use of numbers/letter symbols of which "god" the temple was dedicated to or worshipped. We see the same system of identity in use today with the use of symbols on monstrance icons or on books, altars, baptismal fonts, communion hosts, letters which also have numeric meaning.

The use of "IHS" is translated some claim as a symbol for the name of Christ. As Greek has its own alphabet and in it “Jesus” is spelled “ιησυς” and when capitalized it becomes “ΙΗΣΟΥΣ”. The claim is that if you take just the first three letters of this word or “ΙΗΣ” which are the Greek letters “iota”, “eta” and “sigma”. When these letters are converted into modern alphabet it becomes “IHS”. However, no one can explain how these letters came about and their meaning with any certainty or real evidence which "god" they may represent.

The Roman Catholic priests hold up a monstrance during their high mass, and the form of a monstrance is that of a circular window which contain a host, which symbolizes the sun. It is surrounded by a golden rays of the sun emitting all around that circular window which contain "IHS" in the form of a host. This sunburst monstrance with the round host that symbolize the sun encased for the people to adore and venerate and so anytime this pagan sun symbol is viewed by the congregation, they kneel in submission. If you look you find that "IHS" is also the mystery name that the Roman Catholic churches have on their altar, on their vestments, when they say mass. You find this in the definition of "monstrance"...

mon·strance /ˈmänztr(ə)ns/

noun (in the Roman Catholic Church) an open or transparent receptacle in which the consecrated Host is exposed for veneration.

Now only is the symbol also on their host but they claim it becomes or transformed into the actual body of Christ, but we will leave that for another discussion. So letters in Greek had numeric meaning and these letters were used to identify what system of worship or "gods" the temples were dedicated to or followed.

We see in Revelation 13:18: “18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." The thing that throws most people off is when they look just at the "number of the man" 'anthrōpou' or 'of a human being' and then we are given the number which is 666. The number can represent the system of worship and at the same time show it is led by a "human being" not God, so we see how the number can be used to identify this antichrist entity, which at the same time is represented by a man.

Now as many will argue many other names, such as Nero, or Mohammed, or a king of Israel, none of these can be it as they do not fit the things it does or the length of its power, especially when it comes to the timeline which stretches to the end times. But we have to understand what prophecy in Revelation tells us and it gives us clues to follow of this system of worship which is led by a man..
 

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We read the following which gives us clues in the first part of the chapter, Revelation 13:1-8...
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

So we see it comes from the vast number of people as it rises from the sea, and "sea" in the Bible, symbolizes "peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues", verse 1.

We see in Revelation 13 verse 2, it is the composite of the four beasts in Daniel 7:1-7...
1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters. 2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. 3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. 4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. 5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh. 6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it. 7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

The dragon (or devil) gives it power and authority as we also see back in verse 2 of Revelation 13, "and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.".
It receives a deadly wound, verse 3, "as it were wounded to death" and we see it is healed, "and his deadly wound was healed:".
It is a strong political power, verse 7, "and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.".
It is also a strong religious power, verses 4, 8, "and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?", "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him".
It is guilty of blasphemy, verses 1, 5, 6, "And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle..".
It wars with and overcomes the saints, verse 7, for "forty and two months"/1260 years, verse 5.

Lets look at clue given by this prophetic time period found in scripture which is the 'forty and two months/1260 years/ time, times and half a time' mentioned in Daniel and Revelation:

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Daniel 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

If we look back to Daniel we see the word 'time' in this prophetic context refers to a period of a year. In the story of King Nebuchadnezzar, he went crazy for seven years which is given as "seven times" in the text, and humbled and ate grass as an ox as seen in Daniel 4:32:

Daniel 4:32 And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.

So in prophetic reading we see the days equal years, so lets look how many days are in a time, times and half a time, it means time (or 1 year), times (or 2 years) and half a time (or 1/2 year) or a total of 3 1/2 years. Most people who look at it would stop at this point and accept the 3 1/2 years only at face value.

But these are prophetic years so each day is a year and 3 1/2 years would be 3 1/2 times a Jewish year of 360 days (360 x 3.5= 1260) so comes out to 1260 days, and a prophetic day equals a year so using the same methodology as is used for the 70 weeks of Daniel we calculate it to actually represent 1260 literal years. So, 'Time, Times and half a Time' in prophecy is really 1260 years. To confirm this formula we need only to look at the book of Revelation.

Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Here the woman represents the faithful church, who flees into the wilderness for 1260 days. Again using the day=year formula, this actually speaks of 1260 years that the church would be persecuted. Now look at verse 14:

Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Here the exact same time of persecution is referred to as 3 1/2 times, again meaning the same period of 1260 days/years as found in verse 6. In the book of Daniel, we saw this exact same period of persecution in church history:

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

This verse in context is referring to a period of time that the little horn or Antichrist power will persecute the true believers or true church, again for 1260 years. The same is true for the time given "that it shall be for a time, times, and an half" for Daniel 12:7

So why is it not a year equal to 365 days as we hold today? Well in ancient times the year was held to be at 360 days. The fact that the prophets understood a year as 360 days is well attested, and can be seen in the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation as seen in the use of "time, times and half a time" (i.e. 1+2+0.5=3.5), "1,260 days" and "42 months". These references represent a period of 1260 years (based on the 360 day Jewish year multiplied by 3.5). Divide 1,260 days by 42 months and you will get a 30-day month, as 12 months of 30 days equals 360-days in a year

These time periods occur eight times in scripture:
Daniel 7:25, "time, times and a half".
Daniel 9:27, "half one set of seven".
Daniel 12:7, "time, times and a half".
Revelation 11:2, "42 months".
Revelation 11:3, "1260 days".
Revelation 12:6, "1260 days".
Revelation 12:14, "time, times and a half".
Revelation 13:5, "42 months".

We see how the 1260 day-for-year prophecy is found in Daniel 7, 9 and 12 and again in Revelation 11, 12 and again in Revelation 13. so many chapters in the Bible all pointing to that same 1260 year period which today we know as "the dark ages". These "1,260 days" spanned the Middle Ages and so we are given many clues that show us what identifies this antichrist entity, which at the same time is represented by a man. And it clearly it cannot be Nero, or Mohammed, or any of the many others some claim as they do not fit the description or the timeline..
 
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Now, Revelation 13 says to calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.

The alphabet of Latin, just like the alphabet of Hebrew and Greek, has numeric values because arithmetic numbers were unknown as these came much later. Now, we do have the title of a man who represents a religious entity that spans this timeline, and we find that numbers do add up to '666'.

Vicarills Filii Dei (Vicar of the Son of God in Latin) or Vicar of Jesus Christ is what he claims to be and the name would obviously apply to the official title of a "man" who, by virtue of his office, and continue on, century after century as we see has happened.

The Annuario Pontificio, the official Vatican yearbook, carries the traditional titles for the Pope, and he still carries the title, although they try to subtly hide it..
 
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Vicarills Filii Dei (Vicar of the Son of God in Latin) or Vicar of Jesus Christ is what he claims to be and the name would obviously apply to the official title of a "man" who, by virtue of his office, and continue on, century after century as we see has happened.
Complete fiction. Vicar of the Son of God is not a title that has ever been given to the pope except by dishonest Protestants working desperately to find a way to attach "666" to the pope.

From Wikipedia:
Vicarius Filii Dei (Latin: Vicar or Representative of the Son of God) is a phrase first used in the forged medieval Donation of Constantine to refer to Saint Peter, who is regarded as the first Pope by the Catholic Church.[1]

Origins and uses of the phrase​

The earliest known instance of the phrase Vicarius Filii Dei is in the Donation of Constantine, now dated between the eighth and the ninth centuries AD.
The Annuario Pontificio, the official Vatican yearbook, carries the traditional titles for the Pope, and he still carries the title, although they try to subtly hide it..
Sorry mate, but that is, in simplest terms, a lie. Sorry if you've been taken in by it, but that's the facts.
 
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Revelation 13:18

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Here are the conjugated verbs. What leads anyone to believe that's in the future to John who was in "the tribulation on the day of the Lord(Lord's day)?

  • ἔστίν (estin) - 3rd person singular, present indicative active of εἰμί (to be)
  • ἔχων (echon) - participle, present active nominative singular masculine of ἔχω (to have)
  • ψηφισάτω (psephisatō) - 3rd person singular, aorist imperative active of ψηφίζω (to calculate)
  • ἐστίν (estin) - 3rd person singular, present indicative active of εἰμί (to be)
  • ἐστίν (estin) - 3rd person singular, present indicative active of εἰμί (to be)

 
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I don't usually partake of these topics, but felt compelled to chime in. According to my understanding of Scriptures, God's perfect number is 7. The 7th day being sanctified as a Holy Day in which no work is to be done. If a person considers that there are basically 3 Biblical Generations. There are the Law and Prophets, and there is the generation of Early church of God under God's New Priest "After the Order of Melchizedek", and there are the times in which we live in, "That the ends of the world have come" in which the Oracles of God, in the first time in history, are available to anyone who wants to study them. (And they shall all know Him from the least to the greatest). In all 3 generations, there are massive religions who "profess to know God" but have rejected and or polluted His Sabbaths, making void the sanctified day of God, making their number, not 7, but 6.

And if a man can see through unbiased eyes, he will know that there are several massive religious businesses who come in Christ's name, that have worked 24/7 for years to build hundreds of manmade shrines of worship, and thousands of businesses in the education and Heathcare and insurance sector. They have investment opportunities in the stock market and have amassed untold wealth and political power around the world. Truly "the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies".

The largest of these religions are Catholic and Catholic offshoots. SDA is also extremely huge religious business that works to build their religious business 24/7. LDS is also very wealthy and politically powerful, and also don't honor God in His 7th day.

All these religions who come in Christ's Name, "Profess that they know God" but their lust for power has caused them all to pollute God's 7th Day.

I think this is what the 666 is all about. And also why it is written "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."
 
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I don't usually partake of these topics, but felt compelled to chime in. According to my understanding of Scriptures, God's perfect number is 7. The 7th day being sanctified as a Holy Day in which no work is to be done. If a person considers that there are basically 3 Biblical Generations. There are the Law and Prophets, and there is the generation of Early church of God under God's New Priest "After the Order of Melchizedek", and there are the times in which we live in, "That the ends of the world have come" in which the Oracles of God, in the first time in history, are available to anyone who wants to study them. (And they shall all know Him from the least to the greatest). In all 3 generations, there are massive religions who "profess to know God" but have rejected and or polluted His Sabbaths, making void the sanctified day of God, making their number, not 7, but 6.

And if a man can see through unbiased eyes, he will know that there are several massive religious businesses who come in Christ's name, that have worked 24/7 for years to build hundreds of manmade shrines of worship, and thousands of businesses in the education and Heathcare and insurance sector. They have investment opportunities in the stock market and have amassed untold wealth and political power around the world. Truly "the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies".

The largest of these religions are Catholic and Catholic offshoots. SDA is also extremely huge religious business that works to build their religious business 24/7. LDS is also very wealthy and politically powerful, and also don't honor God in His 7th day.

All these religions who come in Christ's Name, "Profess that they know God" but their lust for power has caused them all to pollute God's 7th Day.

I think this is what the 666 is all about. And also why it is written "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."
No one knows the hearts and minds of 20 million people, except Jesus. There’s lots to be said about judging, it was a big problem in the days of Jesus and still continues. God did create a Church and its a remnant based on His teachings which I beleive the SDA church follows. A biblical argument is always more compelling than just accusations.

Also, from what I read previously on a post you wrote about the Sabbath, it is just about rest and that is the literal aspect of it, we are to follow the Spiritual aspect and that is about a relationship with Jesus. So, the Sabbath is more than just taking a day off and resting, it’s about keeping the Sabbath day holy and we can only do that through our relationship with Jesus Christ. One of the examples left by Jesus and the apostles was church. God wants us to fellowship with one another and to be one body based on His teachings.
 
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No one know the hearts and minds of 20 million people, except Jesus. There’s lots to be said about judging, it was a big problem in the days of Jesus and still continues.

Yes, as Jesus taught.

Matt. 6: 1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

I'm sure a lot of folks just like you were also offended by the Christ's Words here, as would I 30 years ago. And what is HE really saying? That my relationship with God is personal, and that I shouldn't partake with, support, promote or help preserve the kinds of religion that HE is pointing out?

God did create a Church and its a remnant based on His teachings.
But HE didn't instruct to build a religious business. In fact, the truth is there were also those who "Professed" to know God in Jesus' Time, who also created a large religious businesses founded on some of God's word. They also professed to "Keep the Sabbath". Jesus whipped them for this behavior and God destroyed their manmade temple made of wood and stone not long after, and it is still rubble. I find zero evidence that God teaches His people to adopt massive religious businesses that work 24/7 to create a massive religious empire that require 10's of thousands of people to serve them on God's Holy sabbath days.



A biblical argument is always more compelling than mere words.

Actually the Jesus "of the Bible" said the Truth would make us free. What I said about today's wealthiest religious businesses is true. You have no issue with your religion condemning other religious businesses that work 24/7 to build their religious empire, but when the same truth is told about the religion you have adopted, suddenly it's an unrighteous judgment.

Jesus told me not to be like the Hypocrites who gather in the manmade shrines of worship. Whose tradition is it to Seek out some manmade temple made of wood and stone, to worship God? Not the Christ's, at least not the Christ of the bible.


Also, from what I read previously on a post you wrote about the Sabbath, it is just about rest and that is the literal aspect of it, we are to follow the Spiritual aspect and that is about a relationship with Jesus. So, the Sabbath is more than just taking a day off and resting, its about keeping the Sabbath day holy and we can only do that through our relationship with Jesus Christ.

Actually, according to Scriptures, we are being reconciled to God, who we sinned against. Jesus if the advocate between me and God. There is nothing in Scriptures that teaches I must join, support financially, and promote the religious philosophies of this world's wealthiest religions who work 24/7 to build their religious empire.

The Sabbath belongs to God, not SDA. God created it for men, SDA didn't create it. The Jesus of the bible told me how to worship God. I posted HIS Words. You want to support and promote this massive religious business and You are free to do so. I am simply pointing out the elephant in the room, that there is no difference between the 3 wealthiest religious businesses of this world. They all work 24/7 to grow their business, and in doing so require literally probably millions of common people to work 24/7 for them.

Why would I work to promote any religious business like that, especially when Jesus said not to be like unto them?
 
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Before adopting Arabic numerals (1,2,3, etc.) Greeks used letters for numbers α = 1, β = 2, γ = 3, etc.
Presumably the letters of the name of the Antichrist, in Greek, will add up to that number.
One example is Benedict or Βενέδικτος in Greek
Β = 2
ε = 5
ν = 50
ε = 5
δ = 4
ι = 10
κ = 20
τ = 300
ο = 70
ς = 200
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Yes, as Jesus taught.

Matt. 6: 1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

I'm sure a lot of folks just like you were also offended by the Christ's Words here, as would I 30 years ago. And what is HE really saying? That my relationship with God is personal, and that I shouldn't partake with, support, promote or help preserve the kinds of religion that HE is pointing out?


But HE didn't instruct to build a religious business. In fact, the truth is there were also those who "Professed" to know God in Jesus' Time, who also created a large religious businesses founded on some of God's word. They also professed to "Keep the Sabbath". Jesus whipped them for this behavior and God destroyed their manmade temple made of wood and stone not long after, and it is still rubble. I find zero evidence that God teaches His people to adopt massive religious businesses that work 24/7 to create a massive religious empire that require 10's of thousands of people to serve them on God's Holy sabbath days.





Actually the Jesus "of the Bible" said the Truth would make us free. What I said about today's wealthiest religious businesses is true. You have no issue with your religion condemning other religious businesses that work 24/7 to build their religious empire, but when the same truth is told about the religion you have adopted, suddenly it's an unrighteous judgment.

Jesus told me not to be like the Hypocrites who gather in the manmade shrines of worship. Whose tradition is it to Seek out some manmade temple made of wood and stone, to worship God? Not the Christ's, at least not the Christ of the bible.




Actually, according to Scriptures, we are being reconciled to God, who we sinned against. Jesus if the advocate between me and God. There is nothing in Scriptures that teaches I must join, support financially, and promote the religious philosophies of this world's wealthiest religions who work 24/7 to build their religious empire.

The Sabbath belongs to God, not SDA. God created it for men, SDA didn't create it. The Jesus of the bible told me how to worship God. I posted HIS Words. You want to support and promote this massive religious business and You are free to do so. I am simply pointing out the elephant in the room, that there is no difference between the 3 wealthiest religious businesses of this world. They all work 24/7 to grow their business, and in doing so require literally probably millions of common people to work 24/7 for them.

Why would I work to promote any religious business like that, especially when Jesus said not to be like unto them?
Who said the Sabbath belonged to the SDA church, you are making arguments no one is making.

Jesus is the Advocate between Him and His people. Only Christ knows who are His people and only Christ can judge the heart, so my suggestion would be less judging. Matthew 7:1-3

PS- this is an Adventist forum, so seems like you‘re lost. Might consider reading the Statement on this forum.
 
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No one knows the hearts and minds of 20 million people, except Jesus. There’s lots to be said about judging, it was a big problem in the days of Jesus and still continues. God did create a Church and its a remnant based on His teachings which I beleive the SDA church follows. A biblical argument is always more compelling than just accusations.

Also, from what I read previously on a post you wrote about the Sabbath, it is just about rest and that is the literal aspect of it, we are to follow the Spiritual aspect and that is about a relationship with Jesus. So, the Sabbath is more than just taking a day off and resting, it’s about keeping the Sabbath day holy and we can only do that through our relationship with Jesus Christ. One of the examples left by Jesus and the apostles was church. God wants us to fellowship with one another and to be one body based on His teachings.
Very true...
 
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666 is not that complicated. It is simple.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.​
Rev 13:18 ωδε η σοφια εστιν ο εχων τον νουν ψηφισατω τον αριθμον του θηριου αριθμος γαρ ανθρωπου εστιν και ο αριθμος αυτου χξς​

koine Greek [roots, values]: 666 = χξς -- 666; chi-xi-stigma; χ ξ ς :

χ: chi - value “600”; the G22nd (agamos, ἄγαμος - unmarried, unwedded, single),​
ξ: xi - value “60”; G14th (agathoergeō, ἀγαθοεργέω - virtue working (signaling), to work good, to do good, to do well, act rightly)​
ς: stigma - value “6”; and an obsolete letter (4742 [stigma, mark, stick, prick] as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the G5th (abba ἀββα Abba = "father") and G6th (Habel Ἅβελ Abel = "vanity (that is: transitory)")), used as numbers” [Strong's +].​

The meaning of 666 in English is “unmarried [single] vain father [man, calling himself ‘Abba’ (Father God)] who is ‘marked’ [as Cain] by claiming good works [claims good fruits], but all that he does is unlasting vanity, or “virtue (good) signaling (works to be seen of men)” [of no lasting value or merit; coming to a sudden end; as the fig tree with only pretentious leaves; Matthew 21:19; Mark 11:13; or as Cain, killeth those like Abel; thinking he doeth God’s service]”. See also Matthew 6:5,7, 23:5; John. 16:2 KJB, etc. The very position of popery, son of perdition, man of sin, Judas, Cain, Lucifer.
 
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Antichrist (English, from koine Greek) - αντιχριστος (antichristos) - vicarius christi (Latin) (every 'pope', cardinal, archbishop, bishop, priest of Rome officialy hold that as a title).

"In the place of Christ"

Simple.
2Th_2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.​

Anti having two definitions:

[1] against - opposeth​
[2] in the place of/instead of/in the room (position) of - exalteth (to the position/place of)​

Listen to Cardinal Robert Bellarmine, SJ (Jesuit), speaking (writing) about the “pope”:

In English: “All names which in the scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that he is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope.” [Cardinal Robert Bellarmine, S.J. (Jesuit); Disputationes de Controversiis Christianae Fidei adversus hujus temporis Haereticos; Tom. 2, “Controversia Prima, De Conciliorum Auctoritate), Caput. 17, (1628 ed.) Vol. 1, pp. 266-translated]​
In Latin: “Secundo probatur ratione, in Scripturis fundata; nam omnia nomina, quae in Scripturis tribuuntur Christo, unde constat eum esse supra Ecclesiam, eadem omnia tribuuntur Pontifici.” - http://cdigital.dgb.uanl.mx/la/1080015572_C/1080015573_T2/1080015573_21.pdf

Roman Catholicism admits this definition in print, & every single ‘pope’, ‘cardinal’, ‘archbishop’, ‘bishop’, ‘priest’ are ‘Vicarius Christi’, which is Latin of koine Greek (Anti Christos):

“… In composition anti has different meanings: … Antichrist (Greek Antichristos). ... The word Antichrist occurs only in the Johannine Epistles; but there are so-called real parallelisms to these occurrences in the Apocalypse, in the Pauline Epistles, and less explicit ones in the Gospels and the Book of Daniel. ..." [Roman Catholic Online Encyclopedia; "A"; "Antichrist"] - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Antichrist
“... anti ... (in the place of …” [Roman Catholic Online Encyclopedia; "S"; "Sacrifice"] - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Sacrifice
Vicar (Latin vicarius, from vice, “instead of”) ...” [Online Catholic Encyclopedia, Vicar] - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Vicar
“Vicar of Christ (Latin Vicarius Christi). ... thus, Innocent III appeals for his power to remove bishops to the fact that he is Vicar of Christ (cap. "Inter corporalia", 2, "De trans. ep."). ... and states that it is the Roman Pontiff who is "the successor of Peter and the Vicar of Jesus Christ" (cap. "Licet", 4, ibid.). The title Vicar of God used for the pope by Nicholas III (c. "Fundamenta ejus", 17, "De elect.", in 6) is employed as an equivalent for Vicar of Christ” [Online Catholic Encyclopedia, Vicar of Christ] - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Vicar of Christ
“But since We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty, ...” [“The Great Encyclical Letters of Pope Leo XIII”, Encyclical Letter June 20, 1894; Praeclara Gratulationis Publicae - Papal Encyclicals] - Praeclara Gratulationis Publicae - Papal Encyclicals
“...It will be enough, however, to refer to the evidence contained in the epistles of St. Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch, himself a disciple of the Apostles. In these epistles (about A.D. 107) he again and again asserts that the supremacy of the bishop is of Divine institution and belongs to the Apostolic constitution of the Church. He goes so far as to affirm that the bishop stands in the place of Christ Himself. ...” [Roman Catholic Online Encyclopedia; "C"; "Church"] - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: The Church
“...Supreme Pontiff, Vicar of Jesus Christ on earth...” [Roman Catholic Online Library; Church Documents; "Ad Sinarum Gentem (1954)"; Point 11.] - CATHOLIC LIBRARY: Ad Sinarum Gentem (1954)
“...We, indeed, to all men are the Vicar of Christ, the Son of God...” [Roman Catholic Online Library; Church Documents; "In Plurimis (1888)"; Point 2.] - CATHOLIC LIBRARY: In Plurimis (1888)
“The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not a mere man…the pope’s excellence and power are not only about heaven, terrestrial and infernal things, but he is also above angels...He is of such great dignity and power that he occupies one and the same tribunal with Christ…the Pope is as it were God on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief of kings, having plenitude of power.” [Lucius Ferraris, in “Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica”, titled "Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility”; page 1823 internal pagination, “Articulus VII”] - Prompta bibliotheca canonica, juridica, moralis, theologica
 
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The Roman Catholic Bible (Douay Rheims (Jesuit)) with notations and Roman Catholic Encyclopedia:

"... Four great beasts... Viz., the Chaldean, Persian, Grecian, and Roman empires. ..." - NEW ADVENT BIBLE: Daniel 7​

"... Another little horn... This is commonly understood of Antichrist. ..." - NEW ADVENT BIBLE: Daniel 7​

"... A ram... The empire of the Medes and Persians. ... ...A he goat... The empire of the Greeks, or Macedonians. Ibid. He touched not the ground... He conquered all before him, with so much rapidity, that he seemed rather to fly, than to walk upon the earth. -- Ibid. A notable horn... Alexander the Great. ..." - NEW ADVENT BIBLE: Daniel 8​

"Daniel sees a ram with two horns (the Medes and the Persians) pushing victoriously towards the west, north and south, until it is struck by a he-goat (the Greeks) with a great horn (Alexander) between its eyes. This great horn is soon broken in its turn, and gives place to four others (the Greek kingdoms of Egypt, Syria, Macedonia, and Thrace), from one of which grows out a "little horn"..." - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Book of Daniel - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Book of Daniel
([Notation] … The little horn is usually identified with Antiochus Epiphanes (b.c. 176-164), the persecutor of the Machabees; but he was the eighth, not the tenth of his line, and the explanations given of the ‘three horns’ displaced by him seem curiously forced. …) and (The description of Antiochus Epiphanes is not particularly recognizable.) - HOLY BIBLE: Daniel 8

"... Few were more active in supporting Doctor Eck than Sylvester Mazzolini de Prierio, master of the sacred palace. He had just published a work in which he laid down that not only did the infallible decision of all controverted points belong to the pope alone, but that the papal dominion was the fifth monarchy prophesied by Daniel, and the only true monarchy; that the pope was the first of all ecclesiastical princes, the father of all secular rulers, the chief of the world, and, essentially, the world itself (218). In another writing, he affirmed that the pope is as much superior to the emperor, as gold is more precious than lead; that the pope may elect and depose both emperors and electors, establish and annul positive rights, and that the emperor, though backed by all the laws and nations of Christendom, cannot [193] decide the least thing against the pope’s will. Such was the voice that issued from the palace of the sovereign pontiff; such was the monstrous fiction which, combined with the scholastic doctrines, pretended to extinguish the dawning truth. If this fable had not been unmasked as it has been, and even by learned men in the Romish communion, there would have been neither true religion nor true history. The papacy is not only a lie in the face of the Bible; it is so even in the face of the annals of all nations. Thus the Reformation, by breaking its charm, emancipated not only the Church, but also kings and people. It has been said that the Reformation was a political work; in this sense it is true; but this is only a secondary sense. ..." - The History of the Reformation of the Sixteenth Century, by J. H. Merle D'Aubigne, Volume 2, Book 6, Chapter 4, page 192-193 ((218) Caput orbis et consequenter orbis totus in virtute (De juridica et irrefragabili veritate Romanae Ecclesiae. Bibl. Max. xix, cap. iv.; "Master of the Sacred Palace" (Magister Sacri Palatii), is the Pope's theologian - http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10039a.htm; "Sylvester" - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Sylvester Mazzolini ; full title - De juridica et irrefragabili veritate Romanæ Ecclesiæ Romanique Pontificis (Rome, 1520))​

The Roman Catholic church calls herself the “mother and mistress of all Churches”, and she is their “Mother”, and not 'sister':

“The expression “Church of Rome”, it should be noted, though commonly applied by non-Catholics to the whole Catholic body, can only be used correctly in this secondary sense for the local diocese (or possibly the province) of Rome, mother and mistress of all Churches.” - Latin Church, Catholic Encyclopedia; CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Latin Church - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Latin Church

“It must be always clear that the one, holy, catholic and apostolic universal church is not the sister, but the mother of all the churches.”, “It's evident that it would go against the faith to consider the [Catholic] church as 'one' way of salvation 'alongside' those represented by other religions.” - Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger [later Pope Benedict XVI]; Article “Other churches are no sisters of ours, the Vatican insists”, by Lloyd Rundle, Monday, 4 September 2000; Other churches are no sisters of ours, the Vatican insists - Europe, World - The Independent - Other churches are no sisters of ours, the Vatican insists

“The term Mother Church, however, as applied to Rome, has a special significance as indicating its headship of all churches.” - Filial (meaning daughter) Church, Catholic Encyclopedia; CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Filial Church - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Filial Church

Roman Catholicism claims to have changed God's Law:

‘Pope’ Sylvester I - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Pope Sylvester I

[Latin] “... Similiter et feriae a fando dicuntur, ob quam causam Silvester papa primus apud Romanos constituit ut dierum nomina quae antea secundum nomina deorum suorum vocabant, id est, Solis, Lunae, Martis, Mercurii, Veneris, Saturni, feria deinceps vocarent, id est, prima feria, secunda feria, tertia feria, quarta feria, quinta feria, sexta feria, quia in principio Genesis scriptum est quod Deus per singulos dies dixerit : prima, Fiat Lux; secunda, Fiat firmamentum; tertia, Producat terra herbam virentem, similiter, etc. Sabbatum autem antiquo legis vocabulo vocare praecepit, et primam feriam diem Dominicam, eo quod Dominus in illa resurrexit. Statuit autem idem papa ut otium sabbati magis in diem Dominicam transferretur, ut ea die a terrenis operibus ad laudandum Deum vacaremus, justa illud quod scriptum est : Vacate et videte, quoniam ego sum Deus (Psal. XLV). ...” - Beati Rabani Mauri, Fuldensis Abbatis et Moguntini Archiepiscopi, de Clericorum Institutione, ad Heistulphum Archiepiscopum; Libri Tres. (Anno 819.) Ad Fratres Fuldenses Epigramma Ejusdem; Liber Secundus, Caput XLVI. Column 361 (Left; PDF page 35) - http://www.documentacatholicaomnia....eistulphum_Archiepiscopum_Libri_Tres,_MLT.pdf

[Translated English] “... Pope Sylvester, first among the Romans, ordered that the names of the days [of the week], which they previously called after the name of their gods, that is, [the day] of the Sun, [the day] of the Moon, [the day] of Mars, [the day] of Mercury, [the day] of Jupiter, [the day] of Venus, [the day] of Saturn, they should call feriae thereafter, that is the first feria, the second feria, the third feria, the fourth feria, the fifth feria, the sixth feria, because that in the beginning of Genesis it is written that God said concerning each day: on the first, "Let there be light:; on the second, "Let there be a firmament"; on the third, "Let the earth bring forth verdure"; etc. But he [‘Pope’ Sylvester I] ordered [them] to call the Sabbath by the ancient term of the law, [to call] the first feria the "Lord's day," because on it the Lord rose [from the dead], Moreover, the same pope decreed that the rest of the Sabbath should be transferred rather to the [counterfeit] Lord's day [Sunday; the real “Lord’s day” (Revelation 1:10) is the 7th day the Sabbath of the LORD], in order that on that day we should rest from worldly works for the praise of God.7 ...” - Exactly Which Pope Changed The Sabbath To Sunday?

"... Now in the matter of Sabbath observance the Protestant rule of Faith is utterly unable to explain the substitution of the Christian Sunday for the Jewish Saturday. It has been changed. The Bible still teaches that the Sabbath or Saturday should be kept holy. There is no authority in the New Testament for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday. Surely it is an important matter. It stands there in the Bible as one of the Ten Commandments of God. There is no authority in the Bible for abrogating this Commandment, or for transferring its observance to another day of the week. For Catholics it is not the slightest difficulty. "All power is given Me in heaven and on earth; as the Father sent Me so I also send you," said our Divine Lord in giving His tremendous commission to His Apostles. "He that heareth you heareth Me." We have in the authoritative voice of the Church the voice of Christ Himself. The Church is above the Bible; and this transference of Sabbath observance to Sunday is proof positive of that fact. Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God. ..." - The Catholic Record of London, Saturday, September 1st, 1923 edition, Ontario, Canada, Volume XLV, #2342, appearing on page 4, section "Sabbath Observance", Column 2, -- Editor -- Rev. James T. Foley, D.D. ... The CATHOLIC RECORD has been approved and recommended by Archbishops Falconio and Sbaretti, late Apostolic Delegates to Canada, the Archbishops of Toronto, Kingston, Ottawa, and St. Boniface, the Bishops of London, Hamilton, Peterborough and Ogdensburg, N.Y., and the Clergy throughout the Dominion.", Column 1 – (Complete) Bible - Catholic Record 01 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive and (Zoomed section) Bible - Catholic Record 02 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

“...yet we find St. Cæsarius of Arles in the sixth century teaching that the holy Doctors of the Church had decreed that the whole glory of the Jewish Sabbath had been transferred to the Sunday, and that Christians must keep the Sunday holy in the same way as the Jews had been commanded to keep holy the Sabbath Day. … From the eight century the law began to be formulated as it exists at the present day, and the local councils forbade servile work, public buying and selling, pleading in the law courts, and the public and solemn taking of oaths. There is a large body of civil legislation on the Sunday rest side by side with the ecclesiastical. ...” [Roman Catholic Online Encyclopedia; Sunday] - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Sunday

“...But the [Roman Catholic] Church of God has in her wisdom ordained that the celebration of the Sabbath should be transferred to [counterfeit] “the Lord's day:” …” [The Catechism of the Council of Trent; On The Third Commandment; pg 267] - The catechism of the Council of Trent : Catholic Church : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive and The catechism of the Council of Trent : Catholic Church : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

“… the Sabbath … this commandment, … is not fixed and unalterable, but is susceptible of change … ” [The Catechism of the Council of Trent published by command of Pope Pius The Fifth, translated into English by the Rev. J. Donovon, Professor, &c Royal College, Maynooth; Baltimore: Published by Lucas Brothers. No. 170 Market Street; Printed By James Young, Baltimore; On The Third Commandment; pg 264] - The catechism of the Council of Trent : Catholic Church : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
H.F. Thomas, Chancellor Of Cardinal Gibbons:

"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change [solemnity of the 7th day Sabbath to Sunday the first day of the week] was her act ... And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things."​

The Faith of Millions, By the Reverend John A. O'Brien, Ph.D, copyright 1938, Published by Our Sunday Visitor, Huntington, Indian, Pages 397-398,401,403

"The attendance at Mass is the mark of a practical Catholic. ... the worship of God and demands the attendance at Sunday Mass every Catholic worthy of the name."​

Dictionary of the Liturgy, Rev. Jovian P. Lang, OFM., Catholic Book Publishing Co., 1989
"Distinctive of the Roman Catholic Church, Sunday Mass observance became a mark of a practicing Catholic."​

Greek Orthodox (“Catholic”)
"... Sunday as a Mark of Christian [Catholic] Unity ... In order to fully appreciate Sunday as a mark of Christian [Catholic] unity we must expand our definition of unity." [by Rev. Dr. Demetrios E. Tonias – Dean, Annunciation Greek Orthodox Cathedral of New England] - http://www.ldausa.org/lda/sunday-as-a-mark-of-christian-unity/
 
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An Historical Quotation by a Reformer:
William Ambrose Spicer (SDA, 1918), Our day in the light of prophecy and providence, page 154 - Our day in the light of prophecy and providence : Spicer, William Ambrose, 1866- : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Stephen Bohr (SDA), Studies On Daniel (PDF), page 175 - http://secretsunsealed.org/content/PDF_downloads/All of Pastor Bohr's Study Notes/BDAN.pdf​
Roy Allen Anderson (SDA), Unveiling Daniel And Revelation, page 95 - Unveiling Daniel and Revelation

QUESTION: DID ANY OTHERS WRITE ABOUT ROMAN CATHOLICISM CHANGING THE SOLEMNITY (HOLINESS) 7TH DAY TO THE 1ST DAY, AND SAY IT WAS ANTICHRIST?

Philip Melanchthon (Lutheran Reformer) ( Philip Melanchthon - Wikipedia ) on Daniel 7:25 –

[Old English] “... But what meaneth the aungell to saye: He shall s•arle or destroye ye hyghe sayn∣tis? verely els but that with his false doctryne capciouse othes articles / & in∣terrogacions he shall fraudelently de∣ceyue and trappe the simple innocents and shed their blode tyrannously. Also he shall arrogantly take vpon him & thin∣ke to change the state of tymes and la∣wes. He weneth to change ye tyme which with swerde and fyer thinketh to shorten the lyfe of man and to preuent and disa∣point gods infallible eternall and immu∣table prouidēce wherby he hath prefiyed euery manis tyme & houre of deth which as noman can differre or prolong it / so cā∣ne noman shorten nor preuent it / except men will make God an ignorant persone and so consequently no god at all. He chā∣geth the tymes and lawes that any of the [page 118-119] sixe worke dayes commanded of god will make them vnholy and idle dayes when he lyste / or of their owne holy dayes abo∣lisshed / make* worke dayes agen / & when they changed ye Saterday into Sondaye / of eting dayes fasting dayes / of mery and glad dayes to marye in / they can make so∣rowfull dayes forbiddinge maryages. They haue changed gods lawes and tur∣ned them into their owne tradiciōs to be kept aboue Gods preceptis. And as for their owne lawes they will change & bre∣ke them when they lyste. And this powr shal anticrist haue whether it be for long or shorte tyme. For so miche sowneth the Hebrew phrase / which is for a tyme / a lyt∣le whyle / & half a tyme / signifyinge that Anticryst shall make lawes to stande as long and as shorte tyme as he listeth and the tymes will he order / sett and change at his owne plesur. But is it not onely ye office of god to chang tymes and lawes? Here is therfore the prophecye fulfylled of him. Euen to exalt himselfe aboue all thing that god is called. This text. But the hyghe saynts he shall tangle trappe & destroye and arrogantly thinke to chan∣ge the tymes and lawes &c. is of diuerse lerned men diuersely translated. ...” - (The Exposicion of Daniel the Prophete Gathered oute of Philip Melanchton, Johan Ecolampadius, Chonrade Pellicane [and] out of Johan Draconite (1545); page 118-119) - The exposicion of Daniel the prophete gathered oute of Philip Melanchton, Iohan Ecolampadius, Chonrade Pellicane [and] out of Iohan Draconite. [et] c. By George Ioye. A prophecye diligently to be noted of al emprowrs [and] kinges in these laste dayes | Early English Books Online | University of Michigan Library Digital Collections

[Modern English] “… But what does the angel (Gabriel) mean to say: He shall wear out (persecute) or destroy the high (heavenly) saints (holy persons) (Daniel 7:25)? Verily (truly) (what) else (is it) but that with his false doctrine and capricious (unaccountable changes of) other articles (of faith & practice) & (with) interrogations (subtle questionings) he shall fraudulently deceive and trap the simple innocents and shed their blood, tyrannously. Also, he shall arrogantly take upon him(self) and think to change the state of times and laws. He thinks to change the time, which with (the) fire and sword (of persecution), thinks to shorten the life of man(kind) and to prevent and disappoint God’s infallible, eternal and immutable providence whereby he (God) has prefixed every man’s time and hour of death which no man (anyone of mankind) can defer (delay) or prolong (extend) it, so can no man (anyone of mankind) shorten, nor prevent it, except men (anyone of mankind) will make God an ignorant person and so consequently no ‘God’ at all. He changes the times and laws that any of the [page 118-119] six work days commanded of God will make them unholy and idle days when he wills [desires by reason, “thinks”], or of their own ‘holy days’ [liturgical festal calendar days, like ‘lent’, &c] abolished, make work days again, and when they changed the Saturday [the 7th Day of the week in common, not technicality, as the days of God, are sunset to sunset (“even unto even”), not midnight to midnight (Roman times)] into Sunday [the 1st day of the week in common, not technicality], of eating (feasting) days (and) fasting days, of merry (celebratory) and glad days to marry in, they can make sorrowful days (even) forbidding marriages (1 Timothy 4:3). They have changed God’s laws and turned them into their own traditions to be kept above God’s precepts. And as for their own laws, they will change and break them when they will (desire by reason, “thinks”). And this power (authority) shall Anti-Christ [Latin: Vicarius Christi; koine Greek: Anti Christos] have, whether it be for (a) long or (a) short time. For so much shows (reveals) the Hebrew phrase, which is for a time, a little while (times), and a half a time, signifying that Anti-Christ shall make laws to stand as long and as short (of) time as he wills [desires by reason, “thinks”], and the times will he order, set and change at his own pleasure. But is it not only the office (position and prerogative) of God to change times and laws (Daniel 2:21; Acts 17:26)? Here is therefore the prophecy fulfilled of him (Anti-Christ). Even to exalt himself above everything that God is called (Daniel 11:36; 2 Thessalonians 2:4). This text, But the high (heavenly) saints (holy persons) he (Anti-Christ) shall tangle (ensnare), trap and destroy, and arrogantly think to change the times and laws, etc.; is of diverse (differing) men diversely (differently) translated. …”​
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Im a Natsarim believer in YAHUSHA , & I was doing some greek pronunciations research of the greek alphabet words for 666 , which Chi=6 Pronounced guttrual sound "J" ,Xi=60 pronounced Zigh, Sigma= 6=pronounced "S". To hear the pronunciation check out YouTube . When you say them all together it sounds as "Je"-"Zy"-"S" as startled as I was the true name of our Messiah YAHUSHA, had been corrupted many centuries ago, with roman & greek pagan god names. Christ was derived from Alexander the Great travelled to India & obtain d the name Krishna & morphed it into Kristos to Christ as we know it today. The name Jesus is derived from Zeus (in latin)as it states in history books of their origins & also translates as 'earth pig' in many biblical reference books as (Strongs Concordance of the bible,Logo's, blue letter bible)Lord also has a corrupt pagan origin it means ba'al these can all be traced using the Strong's Concordance of the bible. Which it has every meaning of the words in the bible that had been changed or a double meaning or different meaning altogether ,due to the many english slotted words that have changed the meaning of a lot of the verses; when read from original scripture have a more authentic and less confusing delivery of the message. Now getting back to the greek 666 numbers. In a prophetic view of the bible the way the greek letters sound is an indication of how the Antichrist will return using the Messiah's well known name Jesus. As it states in New Testament book of John
“I do not receive esteem from men,” but I know you, that you do not have the love of Elohim in you. “I have come in My Father’s Name and you do not receive Me, if another comes in his own name, him you would receive.”
‭‭Yoḥanan (John)‬ ‭5‬:‭41‬-‭43‬ ‭The Scriptures bible
The Father name is YAH-UAH
YAH= means I AM I AM= The Fathers Name
The Messiah's name is YAH-USHA
YAH= I AM
USHA= The SAVES
= The Father Saves
When you pray in HIS names blessings are doubled and the relationship will be deeper. Because you are honouring Him by doing so, also another lie is you need to keep the Sabbath day Holy, and its in the 10 commandments so IT REALLY IS A REQUIREMENT, Nothing a man has said can erase THE FATHER's WORD, PROMISES & COMMANDS. Everyone would know this if they only just read the bible & studying it. THIS IS A WARNING; grace of Yahusha; covers unresolved ignorant sins, once you know the truth you need to change.It will run out & you will held accountable. The objective here is DO NOT BE DECEIVED, we are about to embark some tough times ahead and EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET IT RIGHT while you still can !!!
 
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The meaning of 666 in English is “unmarried [single] vain father [man, calling himself ‘Abba’ (Father God)] who is ‘marked’ [as Cain] by claiming good works [claims good fruits], but all that he does is unlasting vanity, or “virtue (good) signaling (works to be seen of men)” [of no lasting value or merit; coming to a sudden end; as the fig tree with only pretentious leaves; Matthew 21:19; Mark 11:13; or as Cain, killeth those like Abel; thinking he doeth God’s service]”. See also Matthew 6:5,7, 23:5; John. 16:2 KJB, etc. The very position of popery, son of perdition, man of sin, Judas, Cain, Lucifer.
Boy, y'all can get the maximum mileage out of a simple 3 byte number, can'tcha? That has to be the world's most concise language.
 
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Antichrist (English, from koine Greek) - αντιχριστος (antichristos) - vicarius christi (Latin) (every 'pope', cardinal, archbishop, bishop, priest of Rome officialy hold that as a title). "In the place of Christ"
English version, "vicar". Which means:

Vicar - Wikipedia

A vicar (/ ˈ v ɪ k ər /; Latin: vicarius) is a representative, deputy or substitute; anyone acting "in the person of" or agent for a superior (compare "vicarious" in the sense of "at second hand"). Linguistically, vicar is cognate with the English prefix "vice", similarly meaning "deputy". It also refers to a senior priest in the Church of

A lot more fun to make up your own def, though, isn't it?


Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Which has nothing whatsoever with the title ""vicar", does it?

Ya know, just a modicum of intellectual honesty once in awhile would make y'all a lot more credible.
Roman Catholicism admits this definition in print, & every single ‘pope’, ‘cardinal’, ‘archbishop’, ‘bishop’, ‘priest’ are ‘Vicarius Christi’, which is Latin of koine Greek (Anti Christos):
Definition of what? "Vicar", well, no, they don't, since the "definition" you offer is made up ad hoc to try to make the RCC look bad. Probably works for those who don't know any better.

Any religion that depends on that kind of lingistic chicanery deserves nothing but contempt.
 
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